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Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 7 @ 11:34 AM ET


Champs...

- LordHumungous

Racist.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 7 @ 12:24 PM ET
Why am I not surprised that the alt-right in Germany were plotting to overthrow the elected government.
Talk about attacks on the democratic process.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Dec 7 @ 2:17 PM ET
Why am I not surprised that the alt-right in Germany were plotting to overthrow the elected government.
Talk about attacks on the democratic process.

- Reubenkincade


With 25 people
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 8 @ 2:14 AM ET
With 25 people
- NewYorkNuck


Ya, that was a bit of a head scratcher
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 8 @ 8:09 PM ET
With 25 people
- NewYorkNuck


Nobody has ever accused the alt-right of being smart.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 9 @ 11:22 AM ET
I realize this is old news, but nobody mentioned it so I thought I would

https://globalnews.ca/new...%20billion%2C%20in%202021.

I keep hearing that you can't have surpluses with an NDP Government, yet here we are, again.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 9 @ 3:08 PM ET
Anyone know who pays the cost for retirees that move to BC for their retirement?

I am led to believe that cost is borne by BC.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Dec 9 @ 4:32 PM ET
Anyone know who pays the cost for retirees that move to BC for their retirement?

I am led to believe that cost is borne by BC.

- Reubenkincade


Do you mean CPP payments? I believe that’s federal $. Retirees can’t really afford to move to BC, unless it’s the middle of nowhere. If you don’t already own a home here (that you bought decades ago), there’s no way you can afford one now on a pension.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 9 @ 8:15 PM ET
Do you mean CPP payments? I believe that’s federal $. Retirees can’t really afford to move to BC, unless it’s the middle of nowhere. If you don’t already own a home here (that you bought decades ago), there’s no way you can afford one now on a pension.
- 1970vintage


I was more referring to the Healthcare costs, as a lot of retirees have been coming from out of province to retire here and are most ones with some serious medical needs.
From my understanding, the cost gets borne by the province in which you are living(retired in) not the province that you spent your working days in.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Dec 9 @ 8:38 PM ET
I was more referring to the Healthcare costs, as a lot of retirees have been coming from out of province to retire here and are most ones with some serious medical needs.
From my understanding, the cost gets borne by the province in which you are living(retired in) not the province that you spent your working days in.

- Reubenkincade


I see. Yes, I believe that when you move provinces, you apply to the health authority to become a resident. I’m pretty sure I had to do that when I moved to Alberta in the early 2000’s. I never actually used the healthcare system for anything so I’m not sure, but I imagine any costs for treatment would have been on that Province. There are federal transfers to help smooth out increased costs from province to province, but the lack of money coming into BC has been in the news lately…

Personally I don’t have an issue with someone working hard in Alberta in Oil or whatever and then retiring in BC where it’s actually pleasant to live day to day, if they can afford it… we’re all Canucks.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Dec 9 @ 8:43 PM ET
Franking Covid still killing people lol, the flu is back this year after taking a break last year, 6 children have died in BC from they say the flu so you better run out and get your flu shot lol, children don’t die from the flu unless their immune systems have been compromised, mask wearing and distancing along with the jab would do it. Celine dion has stiff person syndrome lol, does mean she’s dead lol.
- Bettmanhatesus


(frank)ing moron.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 9 @ 8:49 PM ET
I see. Yes, I believe that when you move provinces, you apply to the health authority to become a resident. I’m pretty sure I had to do that when I moved to Alberta in the early 2000’s. I never actually used the healthcare system for anything so I’m not sure, but I imagine any costs for treatment would have been on that Province. There are federal transfers to help smooth out increased costs from province to province, but the lack of money coming into BC has been in the news lately…

Personally I don’t have an issue with someone working hard in Alberta in Oil or whatever and then retiring in BC where it’s actually pleasant to live day to day, if they can afford it… we’re all Canucks.

- 1970vintage


I have an issue with it, as certain provinces will never be a preferred retirement destination, leaving the desired provinces picking up the tab for those that move into more desirable provinces.
Those undesirable provinces should have to pay the bill for their former residents.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 9 @ 8:50 PM ET
(frank)ing moron.
- 1970vintage


Yup.
Loud, stupid and obnoxious is a huge thing with the alt-right.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Dec 9 @ 9:09 PM ET
Yup.
Loud, stupid and obnoxious is a huge thing with the alt-right.

- Reubenkincade


We should be allowed to swear in these forums without having to trick the filters. Fucking Eklund.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Dec 9 @ 9:12 PM ET
I have an issue with it, as certain provinces will never be a preferred retirement destination, leaving the desired provinces picking up the tab for those that move into more desirable provinces.
Those undesirable provinces should have to pay the bill for their former residents.

- Reubenkincade


Yeah, I get your point. It’s just that there are jobs that need doing in parts of the country that are less appealing, and I don’t think people should be penalized for doing them. As for provinces looking after their people, I guess if the Federal and Provincial governments were more in tune with each other this type of thing would be less of an issue.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Dec 9 @ 11:27 PM ET
Anyone know who pays the cost for retirees that move to BC for their retirement?

I am led to believe that cost is borne by BC.

- Reubenkincade

It's complex.

There's a federal transfer as a basic standard for Canadians and after that provinces top up their own system.

BC's health care is pretty good, but it's also the only place where people paid into it directly. MSP

All kinds of people retire in the maritimes and winter down south.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Dec 10 @ 2:13 AM ET
It's complex.

There's a federal transfer as a basic standard for Canadians and after that provinces top up their own system.

BC's health care is pretty good, but it's also the only place where people paid into it directly. MSP

All kinds of people retire in the maritimes and winter down south.

- golfingsince


BC recently did away with individual payment contributions to MSP. It’s become employer sponsored to a certain degree I think.

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/go...um-elimination-jan-1-2020
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 10 @ 11:33 AM ET
(frank)ing moron.
- 1970vintage

TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Dec 10 @ 4:06 PM ET
I have an issue with it, as certain provinces will never be a preferred retirement destination, leaving the desired provinces picking up the tab for those that move into more desirable provinces.
Those undesirable provinces should have to pay the bill for their former residents.

- Reubenkincade


They do in a round about way. They pay more while working into all the programs. That’s why Ontario and BC are scared Alberta may opt out of some federal programs. Because right now Albertans pay more into those programs because they have a younger working population. If Alberta pulls out of CPP for example premiums in Ontario and BC will scyrocket.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Dec 10 @ 4:17 PM ET
BC recently did away with individual payment contributions to MSP. It’s become employer sponsored to a certain degree I think.

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/go...um-elimination-jan-1-2020

- 1970vintage

Didn't realize it.

I used to pay around $135 a month for the three of us at the time.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 10 @ 6:13 PM ET
Not sure if the alt-right realizes that they are forcing away long time conservatives with the bs antics they keep pulling off, but whatever, I like seeing minority governments.
If a government ever got 50%, then I am fine with a majority, but I can't remember the last time that happened, as I believe 40%, roughly, has been the highest, in the past 2 decades.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 10 @ 8:13 PM ET
The Harper years. Lol

https://www.thestar.com/n...-government-scandals.html
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 10 @ 11:27 PM ET
M A G A
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Dec 11 @ 8:33 AM ET
M A G A
- VanHockeyGuy




FREEEEDOOOOMMMMMM!!!!!!!
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 12 @ 11:39 AM ET
Big blow to you neo leftists...

https://www.cbsnews.com/n...-backlash-health-experts/
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