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Makita
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Mar 4 @ 9:38 PM ET
I could cut and paste what Makita said about swift. I know nothing about her really... don't know her music. Have nothing against her and couldn't care less about all that hype about her and the Super Bowl. What I do find hilarious is that people's hopes and dreams to keep Biden in the White House has come down to her swooping in and rescuing him.

Sad state of affairs in the DNC. A pop star going to save the election to keep a dementia riddled genocidal war monger in power.

- boonerbuck

There are always 2 sides to every subject, you can call Biden a genocidal war monger, I can call Trump a dictator, you can make all the claims and mock the media and I can make all the claims and mock redneck idiocy.

I don't need to get into a back and forth about anything the Democratic Party is doing or not doing. Couldn't care less, I will say if I was an american I would have voted republican if Liz Cheney was running but never would I support Trump, gues I would have to go with the genocidal war monger.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Mar 4 @ 9:44 PM ET
There are always 2 sides to every subject, you can call Biden a genocidal war monger, I can call Trump a dictator, you can make all the claims and mock the media and I can make all the claims and mock redneck idiocy.

I don't need to get into a back and forth about anything the Democratic Party is doing or not doing. Couldn't care less, I will say if I was an american I would have voted republican if Liz Cheney was running but never would I support Trump, gues I would have to go with the genocidal war monger.

- Makita


Yup, lesser of two evils.
Makita
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Vancouver Canucks
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Mar 4 @ 9:46 PM ET
Biden has Swift. Trump has the 'My Pillow Guy'. Got to love US politics.
- bloatedmosquito

maybe Swift would have presidential asperations, there has been Reagan and Trump as celebrity presidents, maybe Swift could be the 1st Dem celebrity president...🤯
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 4 @ 9:57 PM ET
Biden has Swift. Trump has the 'My Pillow Guy'. Got to love US politics.
- bloatedmosquito


Both parties relying on celebrities to win them the election.


USA is a lost cause...
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 4 @ 9:59 PM ET
maybe Swift would have presidential asperations, there has been Reagan and Trump as celebrity presidents, maybe Swift could be the 1st Dem celebrity president...🤯
- Makita


There was talk about Oprah Winfrey in recent years as well.
bloatedmosquito
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Mar 4 @ 10:22 PM ET
There was talk about Oprah Winfrey in recent years as well.
- boonerbuck


Clint Eastwood should have been President. Libertarian Party.

boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 4 @ 10:37 PM ET
Clint Eastwood should have been President. Libertarian Party.


- bloatedmosquito


I always like Dr. Ron Paul. He still has a lot of good things to say.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
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Mar 5 @ 12:09 AM ET
I always like Dr. Ron Paul. He still has a lot of good things to say.

- boonerbuck


His son is a fucking idiot.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 5 @ 12:28 AM ET
His son is a fucking idiot.
- bloatedmosquito


Took me a minute to connect Rand Paul..
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Mar 5 @ 12:46 AM ET
Is he? I'm not familiar with him...

- boonerbuck


He was against NIL legislation (name, image, and likeness rights) which protects amateur and college athletes. I think it is needed. These laws permit college athletes to receive compensation for the use of their name, image, and likenesses. Seems fair to me. Students are not employees, most pay for their education. Schools can't sell their likeness to a company like EA Sports without sharing the revenue/payment.

This pissed off Senator Rand Paul. Calls himself a Libertarian only to profit from his father's notoriety. Not many years ago, got into an argument with his neighbor and got himself knocked out cold. Majority of people cheered, including his family.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 5 @ 1:00 AM ET
He was against NIL legislation (name, image, and likeness rights) which protects amateur and college athletes. I think it is needed. These laws permit college athletes to receive compensation for the use of their name, image, and likenesses. Seems fair to me. Students are not employees, most pay for their education. Schools can't sell their likeness to a company like EA Sports without sharing the revenue/payment.

This pissed off Senator Rand Paul. Calls himself a Libertarian only to profit from his father's notoriety. Not many years ago, got into an argument with his neighbor and got himself knocked out cold. Majority of people cheered, including his family.

- bloatedmosquito


I care not at all about the domestic policies these American politicians support or are against. For example, over and over when I ask non Americans what policies they hate trump for and what policies they support his opposition for... it always comes down to stuff that generally doesn't effect non Americans... you know, the noise in the media... so it comes down to cheerleading if you are not an American then.

Meanwhile, as a non American, foreign policy is always at the front when I consider these people. I will argue the facts in a debate, but generally, I consider what is better(or in this case less evil) for the rest of the world. People like Hillary and Biden have a life of pushing wars and overthrowing governments. The blood of millions of people are on their hands. Both have pushed policies aimed at the black community that has jailed hundreds of thousands, pushed sanctions and wars on nations that resulted in millions of dead. I just laugh when people are outraged about Trump and his history as a slum lord and all the hurtful things he says. The evil between the two sides is galaxies apart. Slum lord potty mouth... murderers of millions... hmmm....
Makita
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Mar 5 @ 1:28 AM ET
I forgot that the republican president Bush was really a democrat president that pushed a lie about weapons of mass destruction and placed sanctions and invaded a country and hunted down their dictator leader to execute him. I just laugh when people are outraged because people see through the facade that Trump is but need to go to great measures to defend him.

Trump is a (frank)ing idiot, his lack of foreign policy, his lack of domestic policy, his treatment of women, his treatment of minorities, he's rude, demeaning, arrogant, a liar, a crook and a cheater, how anyone can defend him let alone vote for him is beyond me.

As a young man growing up you could call me a wienerhead, a (frank)head, a female genitalia, whatever, never bothered me, but if someone said shame on you it hurt deeply because of my morals and character. Trump is the scourge that will cause more damage than any other human that is propped up with false power, shame on him.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 5 @ 1:43 AM ET
I forgot that the republican president Bush was really a democrat president that pushed a lie about weapons of mass destruction and placed sanctions and invaded a country and hunted down their dictator leader to execute him. I just laugh when people are outraged because people see through the facade that Trump is but need to go to great measures to defend him.

Trump is a (frank)ing idiot, his lack of foreign policy, his lack of domestic policy, his treatment of women, his treatment of minorities, he's rude, demeaning, arrogant, a liar, a crook and a cheater, how anyone can defend him let alone vote for him is beyond me.

As a young man growing up you could call me a wienerhead, a (frank)head, a female genitalia, whatever, never bothered me, but if someone said shame on you it hurt deeply because of my morals and character. Trump is the scourge that will cause more damage than any other human that is propped up with false power, shame on him.

- Makita


All true about Trump and anyone that denies it is either braindead or a liar.

Not sure what all that sarcasm about Bush being a democrat etc is about. Obviously that was aimed at what I said about Hillary and Biden but what does that have to do with the three candidates I was talking about? Those elections were 20 year or more ago.


Everything I said about Hillary and Biden also applies to Bush. Matter of fact Hillary and Biden supported Bush's war in Iraq where as Obama voted against it.

You are trying to make what I said about Dems vs Reps... that isn't anywhere in my post and I have opinions about their two party system that makes that attempt laughable.

You can always count on you to knee jerk with these replies. They never make any sense because it's usually projection that doent fit what the person said.
Makita
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Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 5 @ 3:10 AM ET
All true about Trump and anyone that denies it is either braindead or a liar.

Not sure what all that sarcasm about Bush being a democrat etc is about. Obviously that was aimed at what I said about Hillary and Biden but what does that have to do with the three candidates I was talking about? Those elections were 20 year or more ago.


Everything I said about Hillary and Biden also applies to Bush. Matter of fact Hillary and Biden supported Bush's war in Iraq where as Obama voted against it.

You are trying to make what I said about Dems vs Reps... that isn't anywhere in my post and I have opinions about their two party system that makes that attempt laughable.

You can always count on you to knee jerk with these replies. They never make any sense because it's usually projection that doent fit what the person said.

- boonerbuck

I liked and agreed with your post until the end, when I respond using similar words and structure to the original post it is to show how the same sentiment can be used to make the other side.

So to your last sentence, I'm glad (I not you ) can count on me for the knee jerk response to the winded example of how Hilary and Biden are terrible, terrible people but when you ask people about Trump and laugh at their lack of in-depth explanation on any Trump policies but respond only his superficial (paraphrasing) issues screams I love Trump and hate Hilary and Biden, so I see it as you're projecting a false narrative and a Trump supporter.

So to show that all that what you said above about Trump is true why not make a few posts about Trump and not just about the genocidal war monger democrats, which is what I was referencing with Bush and WMD. In my simple mind it makes perfect sense.

Over to you
Makita
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Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 5 @ 3:13 AM ET
All true about Trump and anyone that denies it is either braindead or a liar.

Not sure what all that sarcasm about Bush being a democrat etc is about. Obviously that was aimed at what I said about Hillary and Biden but what does that have to do with the three candidates I was talking about? Those elections were 20 year or more ago.


Everything I said about Hillary and Biden also applies to Bush. Matter of fact Hillary and Biden supported Bush's war in Iraq where as Obama voted against it.

You are trying to make what I said about Dems vs Reps... that isn't anywhere in my post and I have opinions about their two party system that makes that attempt laughable.

You can always count on you to knee jerk with these replies. They never make any sense because it's usually projection that doent fit what the person said.

- boonerbuck

BTW I expect your number one fan will be here to tell everyone how much you are schooling the champs, can't make this poop up, it is what it is.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 5 @ 4:38 AM ET
I liked and agreed with your post until the end, when I respond using similar words and structure to the original post it is to show how the same sentiment can be used to make the other side.

So to your last sentence, I'm glad (I not you ) can count on me for the knee jerk response to the winded example of how Hilary and Biden are terrible, terrible people but when you ask people about Trump and laugh at their lack of in-depth explanation on any Trump policies but respond only his superficial (paraphrasing) issues screams I love Trump and hate Hilary and Biden, so I see it as you're projecting a false narrative and a Trump supporter.

So to show that all that what you said above about Trump is true why not make a few posts about Trump and not just about the genocidal war monger democrats, which is what I was referencing with Bush and WMD. In my simple mind it makes perfect sense.

Over to you

- Makita


Like I said, all the insanity that goes on in America's domestic politics is not what I care about so it wipes away almost everything people freak out about and makes my list for Trump pretty small... mostly because he was a 1 term president with no other political history and I mostly care about foreign policy.

Two things that disgust me about Trump's term aside from the annoying gong show and the hysteria that comes with him as baggage...

He immediately recognized Jerusalem as the new Israeli capital and moved the embassy there. I was disgusted. No surprise... the Trump family and Netanyahu have been close friends since the early 80's when he was an ambassador at the UN in NYC. A bill was passed in the early 80's to make the embassy move but only he was loser enough to actually make the move almost 40 years later.

Trump launched a massive missile strike on Syria two days after an accusation came out from rebels and without any congressional approval or no real evidence to support the chem attack. It was a war crime. In the end, the accusation was a fiasco. Investigators blowing the whistle. Classic bs that always surrounds American attacks. I'll tack onto this Trumps illegal occupation of eastern Syria's oil rich region. They have no right to be holding Syria's lands under the UN charter.

But here's where I think you missed the theme of my posts to begin with... now look at Hillary and Biden's racist and was mongering careers. Trump is a mole hill beside mountains because of 50 years of politics... voting in favor of wars and sanctions... destruction of countries decade after decade. The Libya scam to go to war was no different than Bush's. So that's two wars they voted yes for on what was determined later as bad intel and a big whoops. Oh well, just another half million tacked onto the million plus in Iraq. Silver lining... a bad person was murdered... in Africa's nation with the #1 living standard. Now it's a jihadist poop hole and ISIS were selling slaves after America freed the people from the highest living standard.

Then look at their coup in Ukraine. That was Nuland's, Hillary and Bidens project. Again, I'll give credit to Obama like I did on Iraq... he was the soon to be gone Pres, wasn't his project and blocked them multiple times from giving lethal aid to Nazi Militants... Azov and Right Sector to be exact. We all know what that project created. We are seeing the disaster in Europe unfold... these are real fkn monsters I speak of.

People talk lesser of two evils and I roll my eyes at their reasoning that people like Biden are lesser. I sounds like the Rachel Maddow Show when I start listening.

I didnt clean up this post. I'll edit later. Good night...
golfingsince
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Mar 5 @ 8:01 AM ET
Trump's foreign policy is to fawn over dictators , which makes sense considering he'd like to be one.

Anyone who was awake during the last 10 years (let alone 50) has no business calling Hilary or Biden racist when comparing them to Trump. His company legit had to settle a case in NY years ago for racist renting policies among other things.

Also, as the US's neighbour you should really care about domestic policy as it tends to spill over. The (frank)ing guy did his best to incite civil unrest in the country he was still president of.
LordHumungous
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Joined: 08.15.2014

Mar 5 @ 8:38 AM ET
I could cut and paste what Makita said about swift. I know nothing about her really... don't know her music. Have nothing against her and couldn't care less about all that hype about her and the Super Bowl. What I do find hilarious is that people's hopes and dreams to keep Biden in the White House has come down to her swooping in and rescuing him.

Sad state of affairs in the DNC. A pop star going to save the election to keep a dementia riddled genocidal war monger in power.

- boonerbuck

But the neo-lefties in here rush to defend pedo-Joe...

You absolutely have to love it...



But seriously how does one repair the damage that Biden and Trudeau have done in such a short time? Trump and Pollievre can fix some of it but wow...

Now we have illegals/migrants crossing the US Mexico border at will, most likely setting fires in Texas like the LibDP tards did up here in Alberta last year...Trudeaus immigration policies are no better and getting much worse in Canada with 1.5 million migrants coming in with no housing all the while JT has created the largest housing crisis in the history of Canada.

Biden and the Dems are massive War Mongers and one could have predicted the State of Russia/Ukraine and the Israel/Palestine thing. At least Trump had all that in check. China is just 'Bidening' time and if somehow Biden can rig another election then China will head into Taiwan as they now Biden will do absolutely nothing.

Plus news and censorship laws are quietly being pushed though in Canada now with JT's communist agendas propped up by the socialist NDP Singh and his supporters. Good news is folks are so fed up it looks like Pollivre might have a super-majority so if the LibDP tards and Groomers do the coalition again it shouldn't matter.

Trump aint perfect but man a change is US feds is so needed. largest inflation in 40 years from the Biden and Trudeau regimes...gonna be tough to fix.

plus both US and CDN militaries are a global laughing stock now with the woke agendas and policies being pushed through. Recruitment numbers the lowest in the history for both militaries plus forced medical policies for federal employees.

Bottom line it will be good if Pollievre and Trump somehow can get in. Alot of fixing to be done and the damage done by Biden and Trudeau will affect generations.
LordHumungous
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Mar 5 @ 8:39 AM ET
His son is a fucking idiot.
- bloatedmosquito

Did he make it in Hunter Bidens laptop too?

LordHumungous
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Mar 5 @ 8:45 AM ET
Yup, lesser of two evils.
- bloatedmosquito

Yep. Trump is the obvious choice regardless of his flaws.
LordHumungous
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Mar 5 @ 8:48 AM ET
BTW I expect your number one fan will be here to tell everyone how much you are schooling the champs, can't make this poop up, it is what it is.
- Makita

lol keep going...'Island Buddy'

You're doing great!!

Makita
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Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 5 @ 12:48 PM ET
But the neo-lefties in here rush to defend pedo-Joe...

You absolutely have to love it...



But seriously how does one repair the damage that Biden and Trudeau have done in such a short time? Trump and Pollievre can fix some of it but wow...

Now we have illegals/migrants crossing the US Mexico border at will, most likely setting fires in Texas like the LibDP tards did up here in Alberta last year...Trudeaus immigration policies are no better and getting much worse in Canada with 1.5 million migrants coming in with no housing all the while JT has created the largest housing crisis in the history of Canada.

Biden and the Dems are massive War Mongers and one could have predicted the State of Russia/Ukraine and the Israel/Palestine thing. At least Trump had all that in check. China is just 'Bidening' time and if somehow Biden can rig another election then China will head into Taiwan as they now Biden will do absolutely nothing.

Plus news and censorship laws are quietly being pushed though in Canada now with JT's communist agendas propped up by the socialist NDP Singh and his supporters. Good news is folks are so fed up it looks like Pollivre might have a super-majority so if the LibDP tards and Groomers do the coalition again it shouldn't matter.

Trump aint perfect but man a change is US feds is so needed. largest inflation in 40 years from the Biden and Trudeau regimes...gonna be tough to fix.

plus both US and CDN militaries are a global laughing stock now with the woke agendas and policies being pushed through. Recruitment numbers the lowest in the history for both militaries plus forced medical policies for federal employees.

Bottom line it will be good if Pollievre and Trump somehow can get in. Alot of fixing to be done and the damage done by Biden and Trudeau will affect generations.

- LordHumungous





You know Booner is at lest educated on the topics he brings to discuss here, I may not agree with his views on what he has to say but I do have enough respect to at least read and contemplate what he has posted. I do not have the same passion with foreign policy he has but again I will digest what he has to say.

Now you on the other hand come across as a typical redneck that is always crying about domestic policy. You like to label people as woke, libturds, yada yada. You deserve and get absolutely no respect or credence from me because of your redneck antics. You have an issue with common sense things because of your cave man mentality, e.g. you use PWHL as an insult to posters that comment or complain, obviously you have issues that there is a womens league and somehow effects your masculinity.

This country was ruined when Mulroney (the last conservative PM I voted for) endorsed the merger with the reform party because he saw the demise of the conservative party as we knew it. He should have held out, the fiscal conservatives would have survived, now we have this CRAP Party (Christian Reform Alliance Party) that will maybe win a minority because Trudeau is an idiot and needs to go, but really outside of Alberta and Saskatchewan they won't get a massive majority in this country.
Makita
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Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 5 @ 12:50 PM ET
lol keep going...'Island Buddy'

You're doing great!!


- LordHumungous

Damn rights I am, you not so smart,

yuuccckkkk
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 5 @ 12:59 PM ET
Trump's foreign policy is to fawn over dictators , which makes sense considering he'd like to be one.

Anyone who was awake during the last 10 years (let alone 50) has no business calling Hilary or Biden racist when comparing them to Trump. His company legit had to settle a case in NY years ago for racist renting policies among other things.

Also, as the US's neighbour you should really care about domestic policy as it tends to spill over. The (frank)ing guy did his best to incite civil unrest in the country he was still president of.

- golfingsince


Really? lets talk racist history shall we?

Where did Hillary Clinton start her political career? She started it campaigning for Republican candidate Barry Goldwater. A racists POS who's presidential campaign was about opposing the civil rights movement. He was against ending segregation of all things. That's where she started in politics and her racist support didnt get much better in her career as a Democrat. Remember her "Predator" crime bill project that was focused mostly on the black community? Black civil rights groups tell us that it was the single worse policy on the black community since segregation. Countless fathers thrown in prison separated from their families... a cycle that just leads to fatherless children becoming criminals in a poor community. You think Trump's company's history is worse than opposing the end of segregation and throwing hundreds of thousands of minorities in jail with a crime bill that was nothing more than political jockeying for her future run at the oval office? Ok then...


Biden has always been a sexist bigot. Just look at his attitude over his career. I guess you don't remember his comment about not wanting his kids growing up in a 3rd world jungle? The media white washes their legacy... disgusting.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Mar 5 @ 1:07 PM ET


You know Booner is at lest educated on the topics he brings to discuss here, I may not agree with his views on what he has to say but I do have enough respect to at least read and contemplate what he has posted. I do not have the same passion with foreign policy he has but again I will digest what he has to say.

Now you on the other hand come across as a typical redneck that is always crying about domestic policy. You like to label people as woke, libturds, yada yada. You deserve and get absolutely no respect or credence from me because of your redneck antics. You have an issue with common sense things because of your cave man mentality, e.g. you use PWHL as an insult to posters that comment or complain, obviously you have issues that there is a womens league and somehow effects your masculinity.

This country was ruined when Mulroney (the last conservative PM I voted for) endorsed the merger with the reform party because he saw the demise of the conservative party as we knew it. He should have held out, the fiscal conservatives would have survived, now we have this CRAP Party (Christian Reform Alliance Party) that will maybe win a minority because Trudeau is an idiot and needs to go, but really outside of Alberta and Saskatchewan they won't get a massive majority in this country.

- Makita


I swear at this point Lordy just has to be someone's Kaufman-inspired alt because no one is that stupid to believe what they type.
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