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kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

May 13 @ 11:12 AM ET
1. It doesn't portend to anything. Going from 8% to 15% is still incredibly low. That means 85% of the populace (at best) does not approve. In political terms that's ugly numbers no matter how you spin it. In reference Bush Jr, a republican, traditionally had 16% of the black vote...

2. I can't speak for American minorities but the numbers don't lie. The vast majority of minority voters do not support their current president.

3. What?

4. Being cautious of strangers is one thing but purposely separating yourself culturally because of prejudice is another.

5. See #4 above.

6. Yes, you can have a leader who's "unifying". Traditionally, American have always unified when given a common cause. Now, under this president, it's different. Divergent opinion is never bad, but that's not happening now. Never has the US been so partisan, even under Obama. The split in approval rating numbers suggests that.

What I can prove beyond doubt is that under current US federal laws, Donald Trump would be guilty of using discriminatory language that would label him a racist. Walks and talks like a duck so chances are he's a duck.

- bloatedmosquito


Gallup found that Trump’s approval rating stood at just 15% with black voters and 24% with Latinos immediately after he took office in 2017. Last month, the polling organization reported his approval with the same groups at 17% and 33% respectively.

https://www.realclearpoli...eople_of_color_142981.html

More than doubling the support he had amongst blacks, adding around 10 points to support with hispanics.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 13 @ 11:44 AM ET
Gallup found that Trump’s approval rating stood at just 15% with black voters and 24% with Latinos immediately after he took office in 2017. Last month, the polling organization reported his approval with the same groups at 17% and 33% respectively.

https://www.realclearpoli...eople_of_color_142981.html

More than doubling the support he had amongst blacks, adding around 10 points to support with hispanics.

- kaptaan


Your link is broken.

I think your polling info is a bit out of date. I think COVID has changed minorities views of Trump. Here's a good site to look at current polling results:

http://www.apnorc.org/pro...Coronavirus-Outbreak.aspx

http://www.apnorc.org/pro...Coronavirus-Outbreak.aspx

Just 28% of Americans say they’re regularly getting information from Trump about the coronavirus and only 23% say they have high levels of trust in what the president is telling the public. Another 21% trust him a moderate amount.

But even as many Republicans question Trump’s credibility during the pandemic, the overwhelming majority — 82% — say they still approve of how he's doing. That’s helped keep the president’s overall approval rating steady at 42%.

Even with Republican's unquestioning devotion to Trump, his overall approval rating is still at historical lows. Lower than any of the last 5 presidents.

So, what does this suggest about minority support? Republican minorities still support him because they are republicans, not because they are minorities. Does this prove that he isn't a racist? No it does not. Just proves the political divide is deep and getting to a point where it's tearing the country apart.

Not much of a leader is he?
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

May 13 @ 1:52 PM ET
Your link is broken.

I think your polling info is a bit out of date. I think COVID has changed minorities views of Trump. Here's a good site to look at current polling results:

http://www.apnorc.org/pro...Coronavirus-Outbreak.aspx

http://www.apnorc.org/pro...Coronavirus-Outbreak.aspx

Just 28% of Americans say they’re regularly getting information from Trump about the coronavirus and only 23% say they have high levels of trust in what the president is telling the public. Another 21% trust him a moderate amount.

But even as many Republicans question Trump’s credibility during the pandemic, the overwhelming majority — 82% — say they still approve of how he's doing. That’s helped keep the president’s overall approval rating steady at 42%.

Even with Republican's unquestioning devotion to Trump, his overall approval rating is still at historical lows. Lower than any of the last 5 presidents.

So, what does this suggest about minority support? Republican minorities still support him because they are republicans, not because they are minorities. Does this prove that he isn't a racist? No it does not. Just proves the political divide is deep and getting to a point where it's tearing the country apart.

Not much of a leader is he?

- bloatedmosquito

Try this link, https://abcnews.go.com/Po...age-people-color-70222865
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

May 13 @ 5:15 PM ET
He has the highest support amongst blacks and Hispanics for any Republican. He won with just 8% black support last time around and he's getting around 15% now and rising... 1. What do you think that portends, and 2. do you think blacks and browns are so feckless they would support a racist or someone that you say is taking advantage of "white" privilege? 3. Do you differentiate between whites and jews?

Also, you are making the point that whites shouldn't be nervous around minorities? 4. Shouldn't they be, at least until they know the individual...? 5. Shouldn't anybody be a bit nervous or suspicious around strangers, regardless of race? 6. How can you have any "unifying" leader? Isn't some dissent and divergent opinion a good thing?

- kaptaan


As I read this it was like the voice of the narrator from 'fall of the cabal' was reading it to me.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

May 15 @ 9:12 AM ET
This pandemic bullpoop might lead to 75k depression related deaths from suicide and drug use. Lots of people can't pay rent, mortgages cuz they aren't working in the States... China needs to be bright to heel. USA should seize all their assets, and cancel the Treasury bonds they're holding.

https://www.cbsnews.com/n...s-alcohol-pandemic-75000/
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

May 15 @ 9:13 AM ET
As I read this it was like the voice of the narrator from 'fall of the cabal' was reading it to me.
- golfingsince

Thanks for the suggestion. I'm gonna find that and watch.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
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May 15 @ 3:17 PM ET
Thanks for the suggestion. I'm gonna find that and watch.
- kaptaan


Make sure the tinfoil is on tight
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

May 16 @ 10:48 PM ET
Make sure the tinfoil is on tight
- golfingsince

Don't really need tinfoil if you have the right paint on your walls...
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 17 @ 9:02 AM ET
Don't really need tinfoil if you have the right paint on your walls...
- kaptaan


Grow op reference?
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

May 17 @ 12:02 PM ET
Grow op reference?
- bloatedmosquito

i think he means that he licks the lead paint on his walls.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 17 @ 12:09 PM ET
i think he means that he licks the lead paint on his walls.
- RealityChecker


Trump said licking lead paint would prevent cancer.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

May 17 @ 12:21 PM ET
Trump said licking lead paint would prevent cancer.
- bloatedmosquito

and it gives the skin a nice orange hue.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

May 18 @ 5:46 PM ET
i think he means that he licks the lead paint on his walls.
- RealityChecker

🙄
Pacificgem
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 24 @ 11:31 AM ET
Republican Steve Schmidt on Trump

https://youtu.be/KcxNzvowhEE
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 24 @ 5:31 PM ET
Republican Steve Schmidt on Trump

https://youtu.be/KcxNzvowhEE

- Pacificgem

I saw that this morning. Savage.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

May 24 @ 9:40 PM ET
I saw that this morning. Savage.
- Marwood

Lol that homophobe Joy Reid on MSCCP... Funny how liberals will try and paint any Republican as a great guy if they oppose POTUS. What happened to Mitt Romney being a Nazi? I guess he's anti Trump so now the guy's a hero... Lol. Big Michelle sharing candies with George Jr... So he's a good guy now too...
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 24 @ 10:00 PM ET
Lol that homophobe Joy Reid on MSCCP... Funny how liberals will try and paint any Republican as a great guy if they oppose POTUS. What happened to Mitt Romney being a Nazi? I guess he's anti Trump so now the guy's a hero... Lol. Big Michelle sharing candies with George Jr... So he's a good guy now too...
- kaptaan

RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

May 24 @ 10:11 PM ET
Lol that homophobe Joy Reid on MSCCP... Funny how liberals will try and paint any Republican as a great guy if they oppose POTUS. What happened to Mitt Romney being a Nazi? I guess he's anti Trump so now the guy's a hero... Lol. Big Michelle sharing candies with George Jr... So he's a good guy now too...
- kaptaan

golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

May 24 @ 11:33 PM ET
Lol that homophobe Joy Reid on MSCCP... Funny how liberals will try and paint any Republican as a great guy if they oppose POTUS. What happened to Mitt Romney being a Nazi? I guess he's anti Trump so now the guy's a hero... Lol. Big Michelle sharing candies with George Jr... So he's a good guy now too...
- kaptaan

It always amazes me how much you guys dig someone that can't speak in full sentences.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 25 @ 11:48 AM ET
Lol that homophobe Joy Reid on MSCCP... Funny how liberals will try and paint any Republican as a great guy if they oppose POTUS. What happened to Mitt Romney being a Nazi? I guess he's anti Trump so now the guy's a hero... Lol. Big Michelle sharing candies with George Jr... So he's a good guy now too...
- kaptaan

Just saw an article that 44% of republicans think that Bill Gates will use a COVID-19 vaccine to implant a location-tracking microchip in recipients.

How can you people be so damn stupid to believe this sh!t, seriously, the guy has donated $300 million to a coronavirus vaccine and has become a target of baseless conservative conspiracy theorists.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

May 25 @ 11:54 AM ET
Just saw an article that 44% of republicans think that Bill Gates will use a COVID-19 vaccine to implant a location-tracking microchip in recipients.

How can you people be so damn stupid to believe this sh!t, seriously, the guy has donated $300 million to a coronavirus vaccine and has become a target of baseless conservative conspiracy theorists.

- Makita

the other 56% think the virus is spread through 5G towers.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 25 @ 12:26 PM ET
the other 56% think the virus is spread through 5G towers.
- RealityChecker


😂🤦‍♂️ it is amazing how stupid the republican masses are.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 25 @ 1:20 PM ET
😂🤦‍♂️ it is amazing how stupid the republican masses are.
- Makita

More frightening than amazing but I know what you mean before you ban me.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

May 25 @ 10:55 PM ET
Just saw an article that 44% of republicans think that Bill Gates will use a COVID-19 vaccine to implant a location-tracking microchip in recipients.

How can you people be so damn stupid to believe this sh!t, seriously, the guy has donated $300 million to a coronavirus vaccine and has become a target of baseless conservative conspiracy theorists.

- Makita

Bill Gates has killed Africans/ Indians and sterilized just many young girls in India and Africa with his vaccine testing. They want him jailed in India. Recent news about how he tried to bribe some Africans to give rulings in his benefit. The guy is a maniac.

Maybe Bill Gates supporters hate the browns and blacks.

The guy has NO medical training, stole the idea that made his company, promotes global depopulation, and stands to make billions in vaccines.

https://greatgameindia.co...sed-by-robert-kennedy-jr/
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 25 @ 11:17 PM ET
Bill Gates has killed Africans/ Indians and sterilized just many young girls in India and Africa with his vaccine testing. They want him jailed in India. Recent news about how he tried to bribe some Africans to give rulings in his benefit. The guy is a maniac.

Maybe Bill Gates supporters hate the browns and blacks.

The guy has NO medical training, stole the idea that made his company, promotes global depopulation, and stands to make billions in vaccines.

https://greatgameindia.co...sed-by-robert-kennedy-jr/

- kaptaan

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ wow, just wow.
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