Niklas Hjalmarsson is retiring, I see JFresh calling him the best stay at home dman of the analytics era, Hjalmarsson was a shot blocking beast, guess he sucked though cause he had to block those shots cause the Hawks didn't have puck possession.

Let’s sign David Savard and Jake McCabe

Go for it this year and next

Morrissey Savard
McCabe Pionk
Stanley/Heinola DeMelo

Give Vess,Gustf and Harkins a fair shot

Let’s sign David Savard and Jake McCabe

Go for it this year and next

Morrissey Savard
McCabe Pionk
Stanley/Heinola DeMelo

Give Vess,Gustf and Harkins a fair shot
- jjonah

The Habs are said to be front-runner for Savard, but I guess that could change.

Hamilton, Savard and Martinez kind of top UFA's left on board. Kind of doubtful we'll get any of these but Savard may be best chance.

Might have to sweeten the pot?

The Habs are said to be front-runner for Savard, but I guess that could change.

Hamilton, Savard and Martinez kind of top UFA's left on board. Kind of doubtful we'll get any of these but Savard may be best chance.

Might have to sweeten the pot?
- grahamzky

I read this morning that the Jets are going to make a “serious” offer for Dougie Hamilton. Here is hoping that we get him!

Let’s sign David Savard and Jake McCabe

Go for it this year and next

Morrissey Savard
McCabe Pionk
Stanley/Heinola DeMelo

Give Vess,Gustf and Harkins a fair shot
- jjonah

Savard is not a first pair defenseman. Great depth piece though.

Pionk and a later 1st for Trouba is a massive L.
How they turned out, and who we picked, doesn’t matter. Could’ve just as easily been an AHLer D and a Jesse Winchester
- Rexypoo

Rexypoo, I do agree that our pro scouting is terrible. It always seems that our team has no clue as to who they are playing against.

In terms of trades. The Jets could have gotten substantially more if Trouba was traded a year earlier. If that had happened, perhaps it would have prevented us from trading our first for Hayes? That trade could have also possibly put us over the top to possibly win a cup and we would have been drafting at 31 as opposed to 20. Many unknowns and though Pionk turned out, it seems that getting our first round pick back was what the Jets really wanted.

Just some Ultimate thoughts…..

Savard is not a first pair defenseman. Great depth piece though.
- TheUltimateJet

My suggested D pairings is acknowledging that we would have balance instead of number 1 type Dmen.

Pionk vs Trouba straight up is already a massive win for Winnipeg. The 1st round pick is just the icing and the cherry on top. Pionk blows away Trouba in just about every stat there is. It's not even close. Furthermore, Pionk is also less than half the salary of overpaid Trouba. You might actually be the only person in the world that thinks the Jets lost that trade so calling it a "massive loss " is just being even more ignorant.

- jetsnation

Trouba was demonstrably better than Pionk this year. Both took steps forward, but Trouba was a #1D this year. Pionk was more of the 2nd best guy variety. He’s more fun than Trouba, I’ll give him that.

We knew Trouba would rebound after a ROUGH first year in New York. We did not know Pionk would go from worst regular defenceman in the NHL, to solid 2nd pairing guy, to actually top pairing caliber after 2 years.

It was bad at the time. It remains bad. And I’m happy it happened.

It’s starting to sound like it is the Rexy scouting team that failed and not the Jets pro scouts. The Jets knew Pionk was good and trouba was not irreplaceable, rexy saw an ahl dman and a cornerstone defender. Failed by Twitter and his interpretation of data provided by those who profit from providing pseudo-relevant data.
- 2.0

The Jets were mocked to death from all sides for the trade at the time. Not only that, but the Rangers were more than happy to trade a guy 1 year younger in a similar role for Trouba along with a 1st.

Rexypoo, I do agree that our pro scouting is terrible. It always seems that our team has no clue as to who they are playing against.

In terms of trades. The Jets could have gotten substantially more if Trouba was traded a year earlier. If that had happened, perhaps it would have prevented us from trading our first for Hayes? That trade could have also possibly put us over the top to possibly win a cup and we would have been drafting at 31 as opposed to 20. Many unknowns and though Pionk turned out, it seems that getting our first round pick back was what the Jets really wanted.

Just some Ultimate thoughts…..
- TheUltimateJet

Trading Trouba in the 17-18 offseason was probably the best move. Get more value, hit reset on a core group/locker room that was disgruntled and pissed after Vegas, and not be pushed into a corner trade wise

Rexy do you think you nailed it with your Seth Jones take that he should be avoided?

The talking heads and some NHL personal feel he is a stud Dman who will likely win a Norris or 2 before he’s done.

My take is Jones is overpaid yes, but for sure he’s a number 1.
Last year CLB was a tire fire and I’m not sure any player can be judged by that season

I read this morning that the Jets are going to make a “serious” offer for Dougie Hamilton. Here is hoping that we get him!
- TheUltimateJet

where did you read this?

The Jets were mocked to death from all sides for the trade at the time. Not only that, but the Rangers were more than happy to trade a guy 1 year younger in a similar role for Trouba along with a 1st.
- Rexypoo

who cares if we were mocked at the time, we have won that trade hands down

Rexy do you think you nailed it with your Seth Jones take that he should be avoided?

The talking heads and some NHL personal feel he is a stud Dman who will likely win a Norris or 2 before he’s done.
- jjonah

Yes. He was absolute trash last year. He may see a bit of a rebound, but his ceiling is survivable middle pairing guy.
However, 3 straight years of decline for a big guy running heavy minutes… it doesn’t look promising

My take is Jones is overpaid yes, but for sure he’s a number 1.
Last year CLB was a tire fire and I’m not sure any player can be judged by that season
- jjonah

I agree with this and players do get better when they move onto different teams. Look at Ben Chariot.

https://www.habseyesonthe...ayers-neutral-zone-system

where did you read this?
- Ross77

It was one of those pro hockey rumour websites. I never take that stuff too seriously but this time it caught my eye as Jets are never mentioned in anything. The fact they were raised my eyebrows.

My take is Jones is overpaid yes, but for sure he’s a number 1.
Last year CLB was a tire fire and I’m not sure any player can be judged by that season
- jjonah

Werenski, Gavrikov, and even guys like Jake McCabe and Troy Stecher all had excellent years.

I agree with this and players do get better when they move onto different teams. Look at Ben Chariot.

https://www.habseyesonthe...ayers-neutral-zone-system
- TheUltimateJet

*whispers* Chairot has seen a decline in his underlying numbers every year since 17-18

I read this morning that the Jets are going to make a “serious” offer for Dougie Hamilton. Here is hoping that we get him!
- TheUltimateJet

My guess is that the Jets make a serious push for Hamilton. But the question remains "will it be enough?"

There will be a serious bidding war for Dougie, obviously. Dougie will go where he wants to go, and I'm not sure the Jets will be #1 on his list. Would not be at all surprised to see him re-sign in Carolina.

New York, LA, the big cities and the Florida teams are the most likely destination for UFA's. Some times, though, you get a player who doesn't like the bright lights of the big cities, or sit in the sun all year round with with huge tax breaks. I guess we hope that might be Dougie.

But if I was a betting man (I am) I would bet against Dougie playing home-town NHL hockey in Manitoba.

What I’ve heard, and I believe a story was done on this, is the Hamilton didn’t fit in with Boston because he was very quiet.
Liked going to museums and sight seeing on the road, not just the steak house with the boys.

I think he will make a choice that matches his personality, but we will see

What I’ve heard, and I believe a story was done on this, is the Hamilton didn’t fit in with Boston because he was very quiet.
Liked going to museums and sight seeing on the road, not just the steak house with the boys.

I think he will make a choice that matches his personality, but we will see
- jjonah

Hamilton is the ideal fit for the Jets. He does not seem to be interested in living the “high life”. He’s also won that academic award that both Morrissey and Perfetti have won.

Time Magazine ranked Winnipeg as a top 100 city for arts and museums. This is the ideal city for him.

Bennett and the Panthers just pushed Copp’s number over 5

Bennett was drafted to early obviously, but he’s a player who is important in the playoffs, and his pts/game goes up in the playoffs as well although not his true roll.
$4.4 seems a tad high but FLA hoping what they saw continues. Looked like a good fit there.

who cares if we were mocked at the time, we have won that trade hands down
- Ross77

No kidding. All it means at the end of the day is that the pro scouts were right and fans like Rexy got it wrong ( I use the term fans very loosely in this example).