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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 20 @ 3:10 PM ET
That’s an extremely unlikely outcome. They are all in next year
- CanuckDon

About as likely as it was that the Canucks were going to be good this year.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 20 @ 3:10 PM ET
What are they gonna trade? We'll have their first and (former) top prospect they have 4 mil in cap space heading into next year
- NewYorkNuck

They are going to trade their 2023 1st. Lou is old as (frank) and won’t be keeping it
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 20 @ 3:11 PM ET

Shawn Hutcheon
@ShawnHutcheon
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Today’s #OTTvsBOS game is being scouted by #MIN #NYI #STL #TBL (2 scouts) #VAN #NYR #DAL #WPG #CGY #PIT #NJD #SJS #CBJ
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 20 @ 3:12 PM ET
They are going to trade their 2023 1st. Lou is old as (frank) and won’t be keeping it
- CanuckDon

Van owns it now.

*Conditions: The pick becomes an unprotected 2024 1st round pick if it is in the top 12.


IF NYI still owned it it would say

**Conditions: The Panthers 1st round pick in 2022 is top 10 protected. In the event that the Panthers retain their 2022 1st round pick, they will no longer own their 2023 1st round pick, and Montreal would instead get their 2024 1st round pick.


I guess Lou could trade his top 12 pick this year and give Van an unprotected. So I guess it is possible.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 20 @ 3:14 PM ET
That’s an extremely unlikely outcome. They are all in next year
- CanuckDon


I don't know, Lou's contract is in it's last year, no playoffs, no prospects?

Will they give him another deal based on his results to date?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 20 @ 3:17 PM ET
I don't know, Lou's contract is in it's last year, no playoffs, no prospects?

Will they give him another deal based on his results to date?

- VanHockeyGuy

Ya that’s interesting. Maybe the next GM would
Rebuild 🤷‍♂️
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Feb 20 @ 3:17 PM ET
An unprotected 2024 1st round pick has all of sudden become a bad thing?
- manvanfan

Canuck luck says it will be a pick in the 20s.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 20 @ 3:24 PM ET
Where did it come from in Tampa Bay?

Gourde, the type of winger some Canuck fans love to mock. Free agent.
Coleman, trade 1st round pick.
Sergachev, swapped high 1st round picks
Johnson, another halfling. free agent
Goodrow trade 1st round pick.
Cernak trade.
McDonough trade.
Savard 1st round pick.

The rest drafted and had been the same core for quite a while. Add in some a nice prospect in Point and Cirelli.

- manvanfan

Stamkos 1st oa Hedman 2nd is that’s a big help. Vasi cinched it.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Feb 20 @ 3:26 PM ET
So basically we have gone from getting 'three 1st round picks' according to Allvin for Bo to Beaullivier and Raty and Raty might not see the inside of an NHL dressing room ever.

Perfect.

- LordHumungous

To early to judge raty.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 20 @ 3:26 PM ET
That’s brutal news for us. Almost no chance we get the islanders pick now
- CanuckDon

NYI sits 16oa so a good chance we get their 1st.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 20 @ 3:31 PM ET
NYI sits 16oa so a good chance we get their 1st.
- Nighthawk


Lots of games left too early to tell.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 20 @ 3:32 PM ET
NYI sits 16oa so a good chance we get their 1st.
- Nighthawk

They are going to fall and pick in the top 10
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Feb 20 @ 3:33 PM ET
It isn't like a 1 in 1 out hockey trade. Cap is fluid. Myers is up the year after.
- manvanfan


We'll get more for Myers at the deadline next season then we will now.

That's why I'd wait.
Same with Karlsson, no point going for it next season. Keep the overpaid trash to eat up hard losing minutes and build up our prospect base.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Feb 20 @ 3:43 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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Jankowski (NASH) on waivers

- VanHockeyGuy

Nashville making room for JTM’s contract
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 20 @ 3:47 PM ET
We'll get more for Myers at the deadline next season then we will now.

That's why I'd wait.
Same with Karlsson, no point going for it next season. Keep the overpaid trash to eat up hard losing minutes and build up our prospect base.

- Pres.cup

Again it's not 1 for 1.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 20 @ 3:53 PM ET
@ Vantel

https://www.eliteprospect...layer/370779/ilya-morozov

Plays top pair for his team. Has size. A couple years experience. Is a plus player, so possibly can defend.

- manvanfan


Shoots Left but in Russia most are trained to play the opposite side unlike in NA.

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 20 @ 3:58 PM ET
What is it about people that think there is only one end or the other end of the spectrum?

There's a real difference between all in and tank. There's lots to do in the middle.

Just like sign free agents, no one is saying sign multiple free agents so you max out every $ of cap space but that's what some think .

- manvanfan


This is the part that gets overlooked so often. I see comments about trading Kuz and Beau and wait two years for contracts to expire then buyout OEL.

So in 2 year you buy out OEL and then you need to find decent players like Kuz Mik Garland and then you add on another two years. It never ends.

Fix two of the D this year. You have the perfect time to get rid of two major overpaid players and fill it with two middle type contracts.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Feb 20 @ 4:04 PM ET
Yup they took a big swing with the trade hoping to get a high 2023 1st and missed. I like the idea of the trade and the thought process but another epic Canuck failure lol
- CanuckDon

What do you mean high? It's top 12 protected
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 20 @ 4:08 PM ET
What do you mean high? It's top 12 protected
- NorthNuck

13-16 I’m sure was the goal. Even 20th overall is a great asset in this draft. I consider a top 20 pick to be “high.”
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Feb 20 @ 4:08 PM ET
13-16 I’m sure was the goal. Even 20th overall is a great asset in this draft
- CanuckDon

Still could happen. Just have to Bo-lieve
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 20 @ 4:10 PM ET
The only reason to buy out OEL this summer is if we needed the cap to go all in. We're not there yet so why carry a cap penalty for 8 years when we can wait a couple and carry a much smaller penalty for a much shorter term.
- Pres.cup


Pay off Kuzmenko bonus.



VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 20 @ 4:12 PM ET
Keep stocking those picks, hopefully another 2nd.
- VanHockeyGuy


I am not getting my hopes up


Did that last year and crickets.

VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 20 @ 4:13 PM ET
Oh look a fight in the CAL/PHI game!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 20 @ 4:16 PM ET
So basically we have gone from getting 'three 1st round picks' according to Allvin for Bo to Beaullivier and Raty and Raty might not see the inside of an NHL dressing room ever.

Perfect.

- LordHumungous


I got tickets to go see them play in a couple of weeks. I am going to see first hand what he can bring.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 20 @ 4:17 PM ET
An unprotected 2024 1st round pick has all of sudden become a bad thing?
- manvanfan


The team is getting older and no cap room. I don't mind that at all. I think it has a better chance to be a top 10 pick.
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