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DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Feb 21 @ 1:47 PM ET
It was a moreso general statement on sports but sure, you've been patient. Canucks have some good young players (unless I'm mistaken) so it's cleaning up the ends and figuring out the long term plans. It's probably closer than it looks this year.

Petey
Hughes
Demko
Miller

All solid pieces to build around

- Aaron_85


Miller is not someone you build around, he's someone that you take on when your team is tight and can ignore any problems he causes in the dressing room, he's not someone you throw into a young team that needs leadership. Hughes is a much better version of Tyson Barrie, someone you put on the point of the PP but otherwise try to shelter as much as possible, not the guy you throw out there 20+ minutes a night. Petey you can make a case for because he gets better every year (although by the time the team is ready to compete for Cup he'll be near the end of his prime years). Demko might have already peaked and thanks to injuries, may never get back to the level he was before so it might be best to move on and cultivate a new goalie that can carry the load going forwards like Silvos or Delia (if you think he can be salvaged after this).
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Feb 21 @ 1:52 PM ET
You run with him all season and how do you justify trading him at TDL when you are in a playoff picture? You can't lose him for nothing.
- Retinalz


Yes yes you can. A potential cup is worth more than whatever Matthews could get. Leafs would never win that trade.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Feb 21 @ 1:53 PM ET
Patience.
- VanHockeyGuy


You're a quick learner
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Feb 21 @ 1:54 PM ET
Miller is not someone you build around, he's someone that you take on when your team is tight and can ignore any problems he causes in the dressing room, he's not someone you throw into a young team that needs leadership. Hughes is a much better version of Tyson Barrie, someone you put on the point of the PP but otherwise try to shelter as much as possible, not the guy you throw out there 20+ minutes a night. Petey you can make a case for because he gets better every year (although by the time the team is ready to compete for Cup he'll be near the end of his prime years). Demko might have already peaked and thanks to injuries, may never get back to the level he was before so it might be best to move on and cultivate a new goalie that can carry the load going forwards like Silvos or Delia (if you think he can be salvaged after this).
- DariusKnight

I consider you a friend, but boy to I ever disagree with your take on players these days. Except Miller.

Hughes is a legit 20+ minute dman, he has proven that this year and last. His weakness is when they get hemmed in, but he defends the rush very well, does a good job at preventing teams from starting a cycle, and controls play as good as the best defensement in the league.

Pettersson is currently one of the top 15 centres in the league, if you can't build around him, very few players will ever be good enough to build around.

Demkos peak is a top 5 goalie, hopefully injuries don't force him to go the way of Schneider.

Silovs has potential, but Delia is only good for tanking.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Feb 21 @ 1:56 PM ET
Yes yes you can. A potential cup is worth more than whatever Matthews could get. Leafs would never win that trade.
- Aaron_85

Do you run that risk if you fail to get out of the 1st round this year?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 21 @ 1:57 PM ET
Do you run that risk if you fail to get out of the 1st round this year?
- Retinalz


That will get you a ban in the Leaf's thread.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Feb 21 @ 2:00 PM ET
That will get you a ban in the Leaf's thread.
- VanHockeyGuy


Totes.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Feb 21 @ 2:02 PM ET
Yep, at least this new group now knows they suck and need big changes. The dissolution is over.

Unless we trade islanders 1st for D help lol

- canucksfan1944


Perhaps there's a former top 5 draft pick, large tough RHD with leadership qualities that we can trade for and sign to a long term over priced contract with a NMC?
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Feb 21 @ 2:08 PM ET
I think I can handle them just fine. My inbox might not.

- Aaron_85


Now, now, have I ever PMed you? Now my feelings are hurt
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 21 @ 2:12 PM ET
Patience? As Canuck fans that’s all we’ve been. Patience is easy when you can see a discernible plan to achieve success. When you witness constant ineptitude, patience is in short order.
- bloatedmosquito

I was patient for decades but because of this organizations ineptitude I'm now apathetic, I haven't watched a game in 5-6 weeks, I don't care if they win or lose because I don't think ownership cares if they win or lose.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Feb 21 @ 2:13 PM ET
I think I can handle them just fine. My inbox might not.

- Aaron_85


Ban-hammer time!
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 21 @ 2:15 PM ET
I was patient for decades but because of this organizations ineptitude I'm now apathetic, I haven't watched a game in 5-6 weeks, I don't care if they win or lose because I don't think ownership cares if they win or lose.
- A_SteamingLombardi


I'm apathetic as well, however I will watch some of the games.

The outcome to me doesn't matter. It did at one point.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 21 @ 2:16 PM ET
I'm apathetic as well, however I will watch some of the games. The outcome to me doesn't matter. It did at one point.
- VanHockeyGuy

You need something to watch when you're drinking.
Danny Bomber
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.01.2017

Feb 21 @ 2:19 PM ET
It was a moreso general statement on sports but sure, you've been patient. Canucks have some good young players (unless I'm mistaken) so it's cleaning up the ends and figuring out the long term plans. It's probably closer than it looks this year.

Petey
Hughes
Demko
Miller

All solid pieces to build around

- Aaron_85

VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 21 @ 2:23 PM ET
Dhaliwal: It's starting to heat up around Schenn
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 21 @ 2:28 PM ET

- Danny Bomber

👍🏻
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Feb 21 @ 2:29 PM ET
Miller is not someone you build around, he's someone that you take on when your team is tight and can ignore any problems he causes in the dressing room, he's not someone you throw into a young team that needs leadership. Hughes is a much better version of Tyson Barrie, someone you put on the point of the PP but otherwise try to shelter as much as possible, not the guy you throw out there 20+ minutes a night. Petey you can make a case for because he gets better every year (although by the time the team is ready to compete for Cup he'll be near the end of his prime years). Demko might have already peaked and thanks to injuries, may never get back to the level he was before so it might be best to move on and cultivate a new goalie that can carry the load going forwards like Silvos or Delia (if you think he can be salvaged after this).
- DariusKnight


Disagree with your evaluations of players. They have shown better than what you say.

After the moves are done, Petey will get this team into contention. A good sign is how he makes his line-mates look so good.

JTM, well he can be controversial with his emotions. But how do you know he’s a problem in the room?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 21 @ 2:33 PM ET
Dhaliwal: It's starting to heat up around Schenn
- VanHockeyGuy


They have been saying that for a month.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 21 @ 2:34 PM ET
They have been saying that for a month.
- VANTEL


Yes, I saved this post from a month ago.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 21 @ 2:36 PM ET
Dhaliwal: It's starting to heat up around Schenn
- VanHockeyGuy

That sucks. Was hoping the would sign him. I’d trade Quinn before Schenn. Dude should be interim captain
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 21 @ 2:36 PM ET
They have been saying that for a month.
- VANTEL

Do you trust this management group to make this trade? do you trust this group to make the draft pick they might get from this trade? I certainly don't.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 21 @ 2:44 PM ET
Do you trust this management group to make this trade? do you trust this group to make the draft pick they might get from this trade? I certainly don't.
- A_SteamingLombardi


So far I think this new group of managers are idiots so no, I don't.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Feb 21 @ 2:45 PM ET
That sucks. Was hoping the would sign him. I’d trade Quinn before Schenn. Dude should be interim captain
- CanuckDon


Wow. Now that’s a hot take.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 21 @ 2:47 PM ET
So far I think this new group of managers are idiots so no, I don't.
- VANTEL


If the best you get offered for Schenn is a mid round pick, re-sign him to a team friendly deal.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 21 @ 2:55 PM ET
Wow. Now that’s a hot take.
- bloatedmosquito

I’m not saying he is a better player just saying I’d rather have him on my team and in my Locke room. Also I think they need to rebuild and Hughes would be a good second step. Bo was the first
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