Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
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1m
Hearing there's double retention on Orlov's salary/cap hit
- VANTEL

Hopefully we are in on this.

They should of never qualified him.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Benning missed the boat on that final year of qualification on the previous contract. He was thinking it would all work out and Brock would score 40.

Here ya go Reuby.


Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
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44s
Boston sends a 2023 1st-rounder, 2025 2nd-rounder and a 2024 3rd-rounder, plus Craig Smith, to Washington for Dmitry Orlov and Garnet Hathaway.

Hopefully we are in on this.
- Retinalz

Sounds like Minny

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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4m
MIN involvement

Sounds like Minny
- VANTEL

confirmed Minny, retained 25% for a 5th

Hopefully we are in on this.
- Retinalz

Not for a 5th. They are hopefully holding out for better

STFU
- Reubenkincade

……. 🖕🏽

Here ya go Reuby.


Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
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44s
Boston sends a 2023 1st-rounder, 2025 2nd-rounder and a 2024 3rd-rounder, plus Craig Smith, to Washington for Dmitry Orlov and Garnet Hathaway.
- VANTEL

Ya, those other names didn't make sense. Boston is more than ready to suck for a few years, as they have very little coming up through the system, but it will be well worth it, if they win the Cup

……. 🖕🏽
- LeftCoaster

Ya, those other names didn't make sense. Boston is more than ready to suck for a few years, as they have very little coming up through the system, but it will be well worth it, if they win the Cup
- Reubenkincade

As long as they beat the Leafs getting there.

As long as they beat the Leafs getting there.
- Danny Bomber

Not sure the Leafs can make it to the 2nd round

Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
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59s
The #NYR are scratching Vitali Kravtsov and Jake Leschyshyn tonight for "roster management reasons."

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Business is opening up shop.

To Minnesota
D Dmitry Orlov 50% retained
F Andrei Svetlakov
2023 5th rd pick

Anyone know when OEL can go on LTIR? Will it be before TDL?

Benning missed the boat on that final year of qualification on the previous contract. He was thinking it would all work out and Brock would score 40.
- VANTEL

Benning missed a lot, never a lunch.

Anyone know when OEL can go on LTIR? Will it be before TDL?
- VANTEL

When's the TDL?

When's the TDL?
- A_SteamingLombardi

I think in 8 days

I think in 8 days
- VANTEL

7 days, 20 hours and 13 minutes.

7 days, 20 hours and 13 minutes.
- Reubenkincade

But who's counting, right?

But who's counting, right?
- VANTEL

Hoping for many changes, expecting only 1 more trade by Canucks.

Hoping for many changes, expecting only 1 more trade by Canucks.
- Reubenkincade

I will give you what I am thinking which is not worth a lot. You won't like it but Canucks have done a lot of things we don't like so I am going with a gut feelin.

I don't think there is a valid offer for Boeser or Myers otherwise they sit out like Schenn.

Schenn to Boston for Frederick.

Canucks first (NYI) and Podkolzin for Chychrun

OEL never plays another game for Canucks opens up 7 mil.

Sign a tough guy for next year under 1.5 mil.

Draft Michkov

Sign Gravikov and another D in summer.

Trade Myers after bonus.

Trade Demko to LA for Grans and a first.

Bring back Schenn.

I will give you what I am thinking which is not worth a lot. You won't like it but Canucks have done a lot of things we don't like so I am going with a gut feelin.

I don't think there is a valid offer for Boeser or Myers otherwise they sit out like Schenn.

Schenn to Boston for Frederick.

Canucks first (NYI) and Podkolzin for Chychrun

OEL never plays another game for Canucks opens up 7 mil.

Sign a tough guy for next year under 1.5 mil.

Draft Michkov

Sign Gravikov and another D in summer.

Trade Myers after bonus.

Trade Demko to LA for Grans and a first.

Bring back Schenn.
- VANTEL

This is from an Athletic article about trading for him this TDL, but signing him would also be a mistake (reads a lot like Tyler Myers)

Every year there’s an obsession with big defensemen who play tough minutes. They’re playoff-ready players that can play nasty, handle the grind, and strike fear into their opponents — it makes sense.

It would make more sense though if there was more attention paid to how the players actually perform in those minutes. Just existing within a difficult environment isn’t enough and it’s certainly not enough to warrant the king’s ransom these types usually garner on the market. Vladislav Gavrikov is the latest in the genre, a potential landmine contending teams should avoid at his current exorbitant cost.

In the right context and situation, it’s possible that Gavrikov can be a capable player for a contender. He doesn’t have a lot of help in Columbus and his numbers aren’t bad relative to his teammates. Over the last three seasons, Gavrikov’s relative impact on expected goal differential is plus-0.04 for the Blue Jackets and his impact on goal differential is minus-0.11. That’s a pretty neutral profile in a difficult role. It makes sense that some might believe he can carry that over and contribute to a contending team’s top four.

The problem with solely looking at his relative metrics though is that it ignores how much Columbus is actually caved in when he’s on the ice. Over the last three seasons, the team has earned just 44.6 percent of the expected goals and 41.4 percent of the actual goals. Those numbers are even worse this season. Essentially, it’s giving Gavrikov credit for being the tallest kid in kindergarten — in the grand scheme of things he would still come up … short.

That’s not because he’s just weak offensively either. There’s a myth that Gavrikov is a strong defensive defenseman, but for three straight seasons Columbus has been one of the league’s worst defensive teams and Gavrikov is at the center of that. Only one defenseman in the league, teammate Andrew Peeke, has been on for more goals against per 60 over the last three years and only nine have been on for more expected goals against. Maybe he’s a good net-front presence, but he spends an awful lot of time there thanks to his inability to move the puck safely and his passiveness at defending the blue line.

The excuse that Gavrikov doesn’t have help is one way to look at that, but it’s backwards from what’s actually happening. The worst teams are as bad as they are specifically because they count on bad players to contribute in a big role. Playing big minutes on one of the league’s worst teams is often viewed as a positive trait, but oftentimes it should be the opposite. Those guys are a huge part of the problem.

Maybe Gavrikov does play well in a lesser role on a better team. In fact, he almost certainly does. But the risk is far from worth it given the price tag it’ll take to acquire him.

I will give you what I am thinking which is not worth a lot. You won't like it but Canucks have done a lot of things we don't like so I am going with a gut feelin.

I don't think there is a valid offer for Boeser or Myers otherwise they sit out like Schenn.

Schenn to Boston for Frederick.

Canucks first (NYI) and Podkolzin for Chychrun

OEL never plays another game for Canucks opens up 7 mil.

Sign a tough guy for next year under 1.5 mil.

Draft Michkov

Sign Gravikov and another D in summer.

Trade Myers after bonus.

Trade Demko to LA for Grans and a first.

Bring back Schenn.
- VANTEL

I doubt we trade for Chych
OEL likely tries one more season before LTIRetirement
as good as Michkov is, I doubt they draft a guy 4 years away (KHL Contract) when they want to be competitive in 2.
Myers is a TDL deal next season
Demko gets traded, possibly Buffalo for Luukonen and picks.

This is from an Athletic article about trading for him this TDL, but signing him would also be a mistake (reads a lot like Tyler Myers)
- NewYorkNuck

I see him as a Schenn type signing. Or even a better comparison Burroughs. Bottom pairing.

I am attracted more for the Russian factor. I think having a few Russians would make this a landing spot for Russian players. I mean we have had Brad Hunt and Stillman in the past the bar is set pretty low.

I doubt we trade for Chych
OEL likely tries one more season before LTIRetirement
as good as Michkov is, I doubt they draft a guy 4 years away (KHL Contract) when they want to be competitive in 2.
Myers is a TDL deal next season
Demko gets traded, possibly Buffalo for Luukonen and picks.
- Retinalz

Mixed signals. A lot of fans saying we won't compete in two years but don't want to wait 4 for BPA.