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lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Feb 28 @ 8:52 AM ET
adds a different dimension than clague and bryson. and it was an nhl player for a long term prospect.

gonna have to disagree with 'lateral'

- TheSabresTaco

We will have to wait and see if this is even lateral imo
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 28 @ 8:52 AM ET
also for the record im not a fan of the trade but im willing to wait it out.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 28 @ 8:53 AM ET
Bloom is a 19 year old big bodied winger who can shoot and can move. There is a model out there that showed Josh Bloom as 2nd line potential, I’ll see if I can find it.

That has to have more value than an AHL d-man

Vancouver just acquired Stillman and were very quick to move him.


I’m going to wait until the TDL to fully evaluate but on The surface this makes no sense.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Feb 28 @ 8:54 AM ET
yeah, we can only guess at the reasoning here.

we all know all these forwards, with this young team, are probably going to have a very difficult time cracking the lineup in the next, what, 8 years?

We have 3 'A' list guys in Kulich, Savoie and Ostlund. A ton of 'B' guys in AHL and over seas. Who knows what this '23 pick is going to be. I'm fine giving up a probably bottom 6 guy, who can be bought for a few million dollars anyway, for an NHL player.

The concern, on both sides, is why is Josh Bloom, a player a lot of folks like, with a low ceiling, only be worth a depth defenseman?

We know he's probably 3 years out from ever putting on an NHL jersey, so that could be part of it. The other is like I said before, bottom 6 wingers are dime a dozen. One would just think a player like that is worth a bit more.

Apparently not.

- TheSabresTaco


Here's a fun one to ponder: Who had a better chance of making it on the Sabres long term - Bloom or Rosen?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Feb 28 @ 8:55 AM ET
Here's a fun one to ponder: Who had a better chance of making it on the Sabres long term - Bloom or Rosen?
- kingcong39

Could be neither
Hardbalz
Joined: 06.08.2011

Feb 28 @ 8:56 AM ET
Don't sugarcoat it Hank. Granted I don't follow the Sabres that closely but Adams seems to be doing a tremendous job with the team. I'm going to assume he knows if his team requires some sandpaper and give him the benefit of the doubt. Sabres have turned the corner. The future is brighter than it's been in quite some time. Buffalo is a town that always seems to get the short shift. Go Buffalo!!
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 28 @ 8:59 AM ET
yeah, we can only guess at the reasoning here.

we all know all these forwards, with this young team, are probably going to have a very difficult time cracking the lineup in the next, what, 8 years?

We have 3 'A' list guys in Kulich, Savoie and Ostlund. A ton of 'B' guys in AHL and over seas. Who knows what this '23 pick is going to be. I'm fine giving up a probably bottom 6 guy, who can be bought for a few million dollars anyway, for an NHL player.

The concern, on both sides, is why is Josh Bloom, a player a lot of folks like, with a low ceiling, only be worth a depth defenseman?

We know he's probably 3 years out from ever putting on an NHL jersey, so that could be part of it. The other is like I said before, bottom 6 wingers are dime a dozen. One would just think a player like that is worth a bit more.

Apparently not.

- TheSabresTaco


The Devils just used the equivalent of
Bloom
Asplund
And some other throw ins along with picks to acquire Timo Meier and a bunch of other assets.



Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Feb 28 @ 9:02 AM ET
Leslie Frazier not coaching next season.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 28 @ 9:02 AM ET
The Devils just used the equivalent of
Bloom
Asplund
And some other throw ins along with picks to acquire Timo Meier and a bunch of other assets.

- ImThatGuy

we use bloom to get a crap fringe nhl player
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Feb 28 @ 9:03 AM ET
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Oops!! Didn't see your post Stripes
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 28 @ 9:03 AM ET
Leslie Frazier not coaching next season.
- Stripes77[/img]

Buffalo Bills

@BuffaloBills
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Defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier has decided to take a year off from coaching in 2023.

He plans to return to coaching in 2024: http://bufbills.co/41zVrAo
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Feb 28 @ 9:06 AM ET
Could be neither
- Buff36


Think about what the role for each would be, and where the blockage exists in terms of roles.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 28 @ 9:07 AM ET
Leslie Frazier not coaching next season.
- Stripes77

Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Feb 28 @ 9:14 AM ET
Think about what the role for each would be, and where the blockage exists in terms of roles.
- kingcong39

I see where you are coming from. Sabres are going to have to use some of there better prospects in the Bottom 6. They just don't have the spots for them in there top 6 at this point. That could change over the years as they develop more. That's why I keep saying the Sabres in 2yrs will be rolling 4 lines of skill and speed. Or else you have Rochester filled with 8-10 prospects wasting away.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 28 @ 9:16 AM ET
The trade is so bad i doubt hed be claimed if you sent him down
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Feb 28 @ 9:16 AM ET
Darcy whispered in GMKA ear to DO SOMETHING, and he did.

But seriously, I have no idea why that trade was made, I guess for a little grit? 7th dman that will play 5 min a night?
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Feb 28 @ 9:18 AM ET
Leslie Frazier not coaching next season.
- Stripes77


thats just strange... McD gonna call Defensive plays this year??
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Feb 28 @ 9:23 AM ET
I see where you are coming from. Sabres are going to have to use some of there better prospects in the Bottom 6. They just don't have the spots for them in there top 6 at this point. That could change over the years as they develop more. That's why I keep saying the Sabres in 2yrs will be rolling 4 lines of skill and speed. Or else you have Rochester filled with 8-10 prospects wasting away.
- Buff36


You got it.

There seems to be clear openings long term in 2 to 3 seasons for the 4th line, and that's where players like Bloom, Nadeau and Rousek fit.

The top 9 is super crowded with players like Quinn, Peterka, Krebs, Kulich, Savoie and Ostlund.

Where does Rosen really fit? Feels like he would need to really outperform a number of players to have a role available to him.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
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Joined: 09.21.2009

Feb 28 @ 9:29 AM ET
Did you see Devils GM Tom Fitzgerald traded away the guy the beat the poop out of his kid in the AHL in the Meier deal?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 28 @ 9:32 AM ET
You got it.

There seems to be clear openings long term in 2 to 3 seasons for the 4th line, and that's where players like Bloom, Nadeau and Rousek fit.

The top 9 is super crowded with players like Quinn, Peterka, Krebs, Kulich, Savoie and Ostlund.

Where does Rosen really fit? Feels like he would need to really outperform a number of players to have a role available to him.

- kingcong39

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 28 @ 9:33 AM ET
The trade is so bad i doubt hed be claimed if you sent him down
- hubie

1 chicken man is better than 5 Riley Stillmans
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 28 @ 9:33 AM ET
Here's a fun one to ponder: Who had a better chance of making it on the Sabres long term - Bloom or Rosen?
- kingcong39


Rosen by a (frank)ing mile
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 28 @ 9:34 AM ET
I'm not too concerned about it, though it does look like a favor. All depth defensemen are depth defensemen for the same reason: they're not very good.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 28 @ 9:34 AM ET
Buffalo Bills

@BuffaloBills
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Defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier has decided to take a year off from coaching in 2023.

He plans to return to coaching in 2024: http://bufbills.co/41zVrAo

- homiedclown


welp. we bout to find out if we miss leslie.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 28 @ 9:36 AM ET
1 chicken man is better than 5 Riley Stillmans
- homiedclown

1/5 ratio?
1 week of chick karen is more than a career of stillman
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