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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Mar 25 @ 5:43 PM ET
Team sucks
Then it wins some games
Sucks again
Bad news
Changes
Morale wins near end of the year
Draft hype
Draft disappointment
Questionable signings/re-signings
Cap Hell
September comes

Repeat.

Really don't know what year it is, they all look the same.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 25 @ 5:43 PM ET
Detroit looks like they got TORTSured out there
- Just5

you gotta love all these late season win streaks to (frank) us out of a good draft pick
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 25 @ 5:44 PM ET
Team sucks
Then it wins some games
Sucks again
Bad news
Changes
Morale wins near end of the year
Draft hype
Draft disappointment
Questionable signings/re-signings
Cap Hell
September comes

Repeat.

Really don't know what year it is, they all look the same.

- Glak18

every win is a pyrrhic victory
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Mar 25 @ 5:47 PM ET
Way to go boys, lets just win out the rest of the way and stay in mediocrity. Yea, 3 wins in a row .. insert finger in cheek and pop!
- jd250

So if you’re the coach you tell the team to lay down ?
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Mar 25 @ 5:54 PM ET
Team sucks
Then it wins some games
Sucks again
Bad news
Changes
Morale wins near end of the year
Draft hype
Draft disappointment
Questionable signings/re-signings
Cap Hell
September comes

Repeat.

Really don't know what year it is, they all look the same.

- Glak18

Yea, we see this all the time this time of the year. Average to bad teams just free wheeling when the pressure is off and the season is cooked. Study Leafs under Ron Wilson before they finally decided to tank, and picked up Marner & Matthews.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 25 @ 6:14 PM ET
So if you’re the coach you tell the team to lay down ?
- Angus4444

maybe sit hart the rest of the season?
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Mar 25 @ 6:43 PM ET
Well we’re even

Tippett and Frost both miss an open net.

- SuperSchennBros


Neither missed per se. Shot attempts were partially blocked.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Mar 25 @ 6:48 PM ET
Yea, we see this all the time this time of the year. Average to bad teams just free wheeling when the pressure is off and the season is cooked. Study Leafs under Ron Wilson before they finally decided to tank, and picked up Marner & Matthews.
- THE EVIL WITHIN


As long as John Tortorella is your coach, the pressure is NEVER off.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 25 @ 7:51 PM ET
maybe sit hart the rest of the season?
- 2Real

Play him as much as possible or so we can move him this summer
backfire
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Lancaster, PA
Joined: 08.07.2018

Mar 25 @ 8:39 PM ET
Everybody calm down, Torts says the Hockey Gods are going to reward us for playing with effort.
backfire
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Lancaster, PA
Joined: 08.07.2018

Mar 25 @ 9:15 PM ET
Play him as much as possible or so we can move him this summer
- ClaudeFather

Detroit should be interested, his save % against them this year was something like 97%.
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Mar 25 @ 9:42 PM ET
maybe sit hart the rest of the season?
- 2Real

These guys are professional athletes, so you’re gonna tell the starting goalie he’s done for the year cause you wanna lose. What kind of message is that ?
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Mar 25 @ 9:57 PM ET
I just love all the clowns that say to tank and lose on purpose. Did you ever play a sport? You aren't gonna tell real hockey players not to play hard. This isn't the NBA where all the teams tank. Torts is trying to rebuild a winning tradition to an organization that hasn't had that since 2010. The Flyers aren't getting Bedard, but they should get a damn good player regardless of where they finish. Thanks!
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Mar 25 @ 10:05 PM ET
I just love all the clowns that say to tank and lose on purpose. Did you ever play a sport? You aren't gonna tell real hockey players not to play hard. This isn't the NBA where all the teams tank. Torts is trying to rebuild a winning tradition to an organization that hasn't had that since 2010. The Flyers aren't getting Bedard, but they should get a damn good player regardless of where they finish. Thanks!
- Phillywhiteout

Back in the day Pens and Devils threw the kitchen sink for Mario. But i guess it's no super Mario's in this draft.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Mar 25 @ 10:07 PM ET
Back in the day Pens and Devils threw the kitchen sink for Mario. But i guess it's no super Mario's in this draft.
- THE EVIL WITHIN
Ummm, back in the day you could tank and guarantee yourself the #1 pick. With the lottery that no longer applies. The bottom team has an 18 percent chance of getting the #1 pick if my memory serves me correctly. Your argument fails miserably in this case.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 25 @ 10:12 PM ET
I just love all the clowns that say to tank and lose on purpose. Did you ever play a sport? You aren't gonna tell real hockey players not to play hard. This isn't the NBA where all the teams tank. Torts is trying to rebuild a winning tradition to an organization that hasn't had that since 2010. The Flyers aren't getting Bedard, but they should get a damn good player regardless of where they finish. Thanks!
- Phillywhiteout


It will come down to the ping pong balls….so who knows? I would rather they finish 8th worse than 6th worse if it means a few of these young guys are the ones that are actually figuring this out and leading this team. I do like how Torts is using the young guys in all the key positions and situations. This year, although brutal yet again, has uncovered 4 or 5 guys that I really wasn’t sure in October, that are going to be good pro’s. I still think they will get a very good or at least have the chance to draft a very good future piece regardless of the last few weeks.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 25 @ 10:29 PM ET
Everybody calm down, Torts says the Hockey Gods are going to reward us for playing with effort.
- backfire

Yeah, I used to believe this too, but every karmic boost we've gotten seems to be negative. He needs to further meditate on this.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Mar 25 @ 10:36 PM ET
It will come down to the ping pong balls….so who knows? I would rather they finish 8th worse than 6th worse if it means a few of these young guys are the ones that are actually figuring this out and leading this team. I do like how Torts is using the young guys in all the key positions and situations. This year, although brutal yet again, has uncovered 4 or 5 guys that I really wasn’t sure in October, that are going to be good pro’s. I still think they will get a very good or at least have the chance to draft a very good future piece regardless of the last few weeks.
- landros 2
Exactly!
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Mar 25 @ 10:49 PM ET
Exactly!

- Phillywhiteout


Yes indeed! There's no way we will be gifted with the lottery so might as well let the kids do their thing and let them develop. I missed today's game but great to see the results. I doubt Bellows will be a major star, but would like to see him get more minutes. At this point, we need to see how the kids play and develop.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Mar 26 @ 12:58 AM ET
Yes indeed! There's no way we will be gifted with the lottery so might as well let the kids do their thing and let them develop. I missed today's game but great to see the results. I doubt Bellows will be a major star, but would like to see him get more minutes. At this point, we need to see how the kids play and develop.
- Don Nachbaur
Bellows has serious skating issues in a game that just keeps getting faster and faster. It's a serious concern with him as others have mentioned on here.
Joe Nardone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Medicine Hat
Joined: 07.05.2018

Mar 26 @ 6:24 AM ET
Yeah, I used to believe this too, but every karmic boost we've gotten seems to be negative. He needs to further meditate on this.
- BulliesPhan87


The hockey gods already shined down upon the flyers…the problem is our dictator at the time drafted a bust and now all we have to show for it is a 6 mill ltir spot on our cap.

I would like to hear someone, anyone really explain how they should have tanked. If you watch this team every game, you would know they have been carried by their young guys of late. A trunk tank would have meant you trade; Hart, York, Tippett, Frost (this summer) and Foerster must not be called up. Is that what you wanted to do for an 18% chance of Bedard?

Also goalies have almost 0 value, so unless one of our goalie prospects turns out, we would have been right back to endless complaints in a few years on why can’t the flyers develop a goalie and a dman for that matter.

Did you want to trade those young guys before the year?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 26 @ 6:26 AM ET
What’s more likely getting the # 1 pick, or drafting 8th and coming away with yet another (frank)ing stiff?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 26 @ 7:34 AM ET
Hey good thing they sent foerster and zamula down just as they were starting to get comfortable and figure things out. I forgot every legitimate prospect needs to experience the epic quest of chasing that Calder cup!
hfc355
Joined: 06.17.2013

Mar 26 @ 7:36 AM ET
It's up to the GM to put the team in position to tank. Mistake #1 was hiring Torts. Once you made that hire you were playing for more mediocrity and not a draft slot. IMO it is dumb. What difference does it make if team gets 75 points this yr over 55. Those saying this late season winning is good for next year have short memories. How many times has this team done that only to suck next yr. Only was to expedite getting out of mediocrity is to get high end talent. In the draft it is usually at the very top
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Mar 26 @ 8:16 AM ET
What’s more likely getting the # 1 pick, or drafting 8th and coming away with yet another (frank)ing stiff?
- PLindbergh31


i'll go with option 3, no matter what you still won't be happy.




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