Or the failure of not getting one more Defenseman that could actually help. Think if Adams would have acted on his D injuries earlier it could have meant a few extra wins. IMO
- Buff36

Toronto got Luke Schenn for a 3rd rounder. Precisely the kind of guy you need for a pick that rarely turns into a NHL player, and at best wouldn’t help you for years. Don’t notice things like that or mention it though.

We’re going to end up one or two points out of the playoffs and some want you to not notice that huge failure on top of the eleven previous years of failure. You’re not allowed to notice, or comment on that.
- SoCalPucks

Adams can't control nor change the 8 or 9 years prior to him assuming control.
THAT is the point most KA backers make.
It seems as though the naysayers must absolutely roll those failures onto KA's back.
Ridiculous actually.

Toronto got Luke Schenn for a 3rd rounder. Precisely the kind of guy you need for a pick that rarely turns into a NHL player, and at best wouldn’t help you for years. Don’t notice things like that or mention it though.
- SoCalPucks

As much as Samuelsson was hurt and obviously Lyubushkin was playing hurt, another D that could eat 19 -20 minutes could have helped.

Adams can't control nor change the 8 or 9 years prior to him assuming control.
THAT is the point most KA backers make.
It seems as though the naysayers must absolutely roll those failures onto KA's back.
Ridiculous actually.
- IonSabres

Most GM's take crap for the one's before him. Unfortunately the Sabres had a lot of Crap BEFORE Adams.

As much as Samuelsson was hurt and obviously Lyubushkin was playing hurt, another D that could eat 19 -20 minutes could have helped.
- Buff36

Agreed - we know he went after Chychrun, which, as it turns out would have been pricey and not helped.

Who knows who he went after at D, if anyone??

It’s fair to say a 3/4 D acquired would have helped and not blocked a spot for a prospect next year (as we have no pro ready d prospects)

Goaltending is a very important position and until 9 days ago our goalies sucked moose b*lls. That problem may have been solved, let’s hope
- turbo044

Let's hope this version is the Levi they can build on for years to come as he continues to improve.
It is pretty shocking how well he has played, I'm absolutely loving it.
At the same time it would be awesome to find a Vet mentor for him who can then transition to backup as Levi ascends...who is that guy?

Adams can't control nor change the 8 or 9 years prior to him assuming control.
THAT is the point most KA backers make.
It seems as though the naysayers must absolutely roll those failures onto KA's back.
Ridiculous actually.
- IonSabres

Not everything has to be 100MPH in one direction

You can like the direction of the team, and also criticize him/them for not for seeing how good the team could’ve been this year

They’ve gone toe to toe and can out score anyone

They failed to put resources in the goalies because they didn’t think they’d be this good

That’s on them

It's like being proud of your kid for being potty trained...except the kid is 8 years old.
- buffalofan19

Extremely false. If reinfart, Risto, and Eichel were on this team then yes its like a 8 year old.

Most of these kids just started playing pro hockey. We have just lost for so long that 90% of the posters are mentally weak here with PTSD

Adams can't control nor change the 8 or 9 years prior to him assuming control.
THAT is the point most KA backers make.
It seems as though the naysayers must absolutely roll those failures onto KA's back.
Ridiculous actually.
- IonSabres

Kevyn failed this year. There’s no other way to describe it. He failed to address glaring deficiencies, he failed to recognize the progress the team had made, he failed to swing a deal that might have made a difference. After 12 years of organizational failure, fans have every right to be angry about that.

Toronto got Luke Schenn for a 3rd rounder. Precisely the kind of guy you need for a pick that rarely turns into a NHL player, and at best wouldn’t help you for years. Don’t notice things like that or mention it though.
- SoCalPucks

I lump it I to Lost Opportunity, and I have for one noted it.
Just exclude 8 years of poop before KA as HE had zero control on it.
THAT is why ya'll get poop on for harping reletlessly on 12 years. It is 3-ish (I give h8m a Mulligan for his Year 1)

Most GM's take crap for the one's before him. Unfortunately the Sabres had a lot of Crap BEFORE Adams.
- Buff36

Disagree 36.
The Sabres Org should get poop on for the 12 years.
KA should get measured on his 3 -4 years depending on how critical one wants to be in recognixing having to dig out from his 1st year being dealt 2 cards in 5 card poker that offseason/season.

There is a distinction that must be made, IMO.

I lump it I to Lost Opportunity, and I have for one noted it.
Just exclude 8 years of poop before KA as HE had zero control on it.
THAT is why ya'll get poop on for harping reletlessly on 12 years. It is 3-ish (I give h8m a Mulligan for his Year 1)
- IonSabres

You’re right, but let’s not forget he benefited from stumbling into super-sniper success. Did anyone here ever see Tage emerging as a potential 50 goal scorer? Props to Kev for locking him up early and at a steal of a contract but one of his best assets was inherited.

Disagree 36.
The Sabres Org should get poop on for the 12 years.
KA should get measured on his 3 -4 years depending on how critical one wants to be in recognixing having to dig out from his 1st year being dealt 2 cards in 5 card poker that offseason/season.

There is a distinction that must be made, IMO.
- IonSabres

Fair enough,

Kevyn Adams slow played a rebuild and failed every season to make winning moves. This is for an organization 8-9 years of no success.

Players in the system along with the prospects have grown, that’s on the coach more than GM.

The GM failed this season to support roster players having career years after they made it clear they want to be there.

The team looks promising, promise doesn’t mean anything at the end of the day though.

Kevyn failed this year. There’s no other way to describe it. He failed to address glaring deficiencies, he failed to recognize the progress the team had made, he failed to swing a deal that might have made a difference. After 12 years of organizational failure, fans have every right to be angry about that.
- SoCalPucks

See my next couple of posts below yours that prompted this post.

I'm going to go enjoy the pool and beach, if I see clouds, look out I'm a gonna yell loudly at them.

All you’re doing is dancing around the point I was making in the first place which is it’s really hard to gain ground because you don’t just win alll your games while the team your chasing just loses all of theirs. Yes, you’re right that if Florida lost the games they won while we won the games we lost we could’ve made it.
- sbroads24

I’m not dancing around anything, you said the season was over “weeks” ago when it ended last week.

Even with all of the losses to inferior opponents, they would still be in a prime position with one win over Florida.

That is literally all I’m saying.

Toronto got Luke Schenn for a 3rd rounder. Precisely the kind of guy you need for a pick that rarely turns into a NHL player, and at best wouldn’t help you for years. Don’t notice things like that or mention it though.
- SoCalPucks

Stillman has been the better acquisition for Buffalo than Schenn has been for Toronto but we like to moan about everything on here so it’s par for the course.

See my next couple of posts below yours that prompted this post.

I'm going to go enjoy the pool and beach, if I see clouds, look out I'm a gonna yell loudly at them.
- IonSabres

You don’t actually need to yell. You can just calmly explain your rationale for your disapproval. Especially if you you happen to be in a forum created specifically to talk about clouds.

Stillman has been the better acquisition for Buffalo than Schenn has been for Toronto but we like to moan about everything on here so it’s par for the course.
- Swedish_Jesus

Stillman has been better than expected, but adequate isn’t good enough anymore.

You’re right, but let’s not forget he benefited from stumbling into super-sniper success. Did anyone here ever see Tage emerging as a potential 50 goal scorer? Props to Kev for locking him up early and at a steal of a contract but one of his best assets was inherited.
- SoCalPucks

I mean with that logic Yzerman stumbled into Kucherov, Point, Cirelli, Killorn, and Palat.

Robert Kraft’s legacy was built on a 6th round pick QB named Tom Brady.

Name me one person who’s ever gotten anywhere without a degree of luck.

Say what you want, but Tage was producing like this under the previous GM and at the end of the day it was Adams’ coaching hire that is getting the most out of him.

Not to mention it was the front office’s foresight to get ahead of the curve and secure the best contract in the league

Disagree 36.
The Sabres Org should get poop on for the 12 years.
KA should get measured on his 3 -4 years depending on how critical one wants to be in recognixing having to dig out from his 1st year being dealt 2 cards in 5 card poker that offseason/season.

There is a distinction that must be made, IMO.
- IonSabres

Isn't his first year dealing with what Botts left or didn't leave dealing with it. We have seen a lot of Growth but his Defense and goaltending have been a issue since he got here and still is, well goaltending seems to have worked out.

I mean with that logic Yzerman stumbled into Kucherov, Point, Cirelli, Killorn, and Palat.

Robert Kraft’s legacy was built on a 6th round pick QB named Tom Brady.

Name me one person who’s ever gotten anywhere without a degree of luck.

Say what you want, but Tage was producing like this under the previous GM and at the end of the day it was Adams’ coaching hire that is getting the most out of him.

Not to mention it was the front office’s foresight to get ahead of the curve and secure the best contract in the league
- Swedish_Jesus

Or was it Stanks hire and Adams got lucky

Stillman has been the better acquisition for Buffalo than Schenn has been for Toronto but we like to moan about everything on here so it’s par for the course.
- Swedish_Jesus

It's not even Stillman, his Defense was in shambles in November December and he really did nothing about it.

I mean with that logic Yzerman stumbled into Kucherov, Point, Cirelli, Killorn, and Palat.

Robert Kraft’s legacy was built on a 6th round pick QB named Tom Brady.

Name me one person who’s ever gotten anywhere without a degree of luck.

Say what you want, but Tage was producing like this under the previous GM and at the end of the day it was Adams’ coaching hire that is getting the most out of him.

Not to mention it was the front office’s foresight to get ahead of the curve and secure the best contract in the league
- Swedish_Jesus

This is all true but what exactly is Adams getting patted on the back constantly for? We haven’t done anything yet.

That’s the part I don’t get.

I would’ve given him props for making the playoffs. You know, the thing some teams do every single season

I mean with that logic Yzerman stumbled into Kucherov, Point, Cirelli, Killorn, and Palat.

Robert Kraft’s legacy was built on a 6th round pick QB named Tom Brady.

Name me one person who’s ever gotten anywhere without a degree of luck.

Say what you want, but Tage was producing like this under the previous GM and at the end of the day it was Adams’ coaching hire that is getting the most out of him.

Not to mention it was the front office’s foresight to get ahead of the curve and secure the best contract in the league
- Swedish_Jesus

Yzerman started in 2010 and made it to the conference finals in 2011

I mean with that logic Yzerman stumbled into Kucherov, Point, Cirelli, Killorn, and Palat.

Robert Kraft’s legacy was built on a 6th round pick QB named Tom Brady.

Name me one person who’s ever gotten anywhere without a degree of luck.

Say what you want, but Tage was producing like this under the previous GM and at the end of the day it was Adams’ coaching hire that is getting the most out of him.

Not to mention it was the front office’s foresight to get ahead of the curve and secure the best contract in the league
- Swedish_Jesus

Blind squirrels and broken clocks and such