No one loves pears more than I... but who are you dropping to make room for him and even with those hands still butter around the net he's not helping in the speed dept. 4 yrs ago sure. next yr..

Just better options out there for Leafers.
- dozerD10

ZAR

That was literally his only good trade

- Archaic

A first for Toffoli ...
A 3rd for Zadorov ...

Pretty good ...standard stuff. Signed Toffoli to a reasonable deal.

The whole world thought he pillaged FLA in the Tkachuk trade when it first happened. He did pretty well given that Tkachuk had control of the options.

A first, a decent prospect, Weegar (signed to decent money) and Huberdeau.

I would have opted for the rebuild and I think he overpaid Huberdeau but were it not for Sutter (Treliving's fault) and Markstrom having a terrible year I think that teams in the playoffs.

Again - I don't care if he's the guy or not but this idea that he's Chevyldayov is BS.

No not the money... who from the lineup. Figuring Knies is top 6 that pushes guys down. He's 4th liner at this point no more.

Kampf, Robertson saying he makes team. Lafferty, Accari, Aston-Reese- Kerfoot.
- dozerD10

Lafferty is the only guarantee for next season.

I know you are a ducks fan but c'mon.

He is more of what we need on the 4th line for sure. You are dropped ZAR easily.

Free agents that arent coming back for the Leafs

Bunting
ZAR
Kampf
Holl
Kerfoot
O'Reilly

They have room for Perry. They should resign Schenn/Acciari

Free agents they should look at

Perry
Compher
Bertuzzi
Soucy
Pacioretty
Wood
Barbashev
- Archaic

Schenn, Acciari, and Gavrikov are the guys I'd be looking at.

No not the money... who from the lineup. Figuring Knies is top 6 that pushes guys down. He's 4th liner at this point no more.

Kampf, Robertson saying he makes team. Lafferty, Accari, Aston-Reese- Kerfoot.
- dozerD10

I don't think those guys are back next season

He is more of what we need on the 4th line for sure. You are dropped ZAR easily.

Free agents that arent coming back for the Leafs

Bunting
ZAR
Kampf
Holl
Kerfoot
O'Reilly

They have room for Perry. They should resign Schenn/Acciari

Free agents they should look at

Perry
Compher
Bertuzzi
Soucy
Pacioretty
Wood
Barbashev
- Archaic

I think they get one of these guys


Compher is a good C, one of the better shutdown Cs in the NHL and had some selke buzz this season.

Bertuzzi for the obvious fit.

Schenn, Acciari, and Gavrikov are the guys I'd be looking at.
- mjones242

Gavrikov is extremely overrated. He isnt a dman we need. If we were going to overpay for someone it might as well be Orlov, but honestly, I wouldnt look there at all either.

I think they get one of these guys


Compher is a good C, one of the better shutdown Cs in the NHL and had some selke buzz this season.

Bertuzzi for the obvious fit.
- Santo_44

Either would be very good. Bertuzzi also looked great on the Bruins powerplay in net front. We could use that for sure.

Gavrikov is extremely overrated. He isnt a dman we need. If we were going to overpay for someone it might as well be Orlov, but honestly, I wouldnt look there at all either.
- Archaic

I want the new GM to explore Karlsson.

See how much they are willing to retain and cost.

Either would be very good. Bertuzzi also looked great on the Bruins powerplay in net front. We could use that for sure.
- Archaic

Both contract projections come in at around 5x5.25M.

Lafferty is the only guarantee for next season.

I know you are a ducks fan but c'mon.
- Santo_44

My point being he is still sneaky nasty.. which the Leafs could use. And he can score around the net.

I thought Kampf was really solid in the Cats series .. Accari needs to come back - Robertson is either now or never- Don't you need Kerfoot around just because he plays C and if JT moves to the wing.. A must IMO. You need a 3rd Line C and Kerfoot can do that ... and for all his faults Kerfoot is a very useful player with great wheels.

I guess people see it differently, until last year...and the deadline additions of O'Reilly and Acciari...I saw a very stubborn GM that was employing his "Skill above all else" mentality throughout his tenure. I do believe the last year or so he began to deviate a little to add intangibles. But, my guess...tooo little, too late.
- hawk35

and Muzzin, Simmonds, Clifford, Lubushkin, Foligno, Bogosian, Schenn..does Richie count? he fights.

he took a bunch of swings at toughness

Gavrikov is extremely overrated. He isnt a dman we need. If we were going to overpay for someone it might as well be Orlov, but honestly, I wouldnt look there at all either.
- Archaic

Oh

My point being he is still sneaky nasty.. which the Leafs could use. And he can score around the net.

I thought Kampf was really solid in the Cats series .. Accari needs to come back - Robertson is either now or never- Don't you need Kerfoot around just because he plays C and if JT moves to the wing.. A must IMO. You need a 3rd Line C and Kerfoot can do that ... and for all his faults Kerfoot is a very useful player with great wheels.
- dozerD10

There is a 0% chance Kerfoot is back.

They have the cap space to spend a little more and fill a need with a better player than Kerfoot.

- mjones242

Great.

Both contract projections come in at around 5x5.25M.
- Santo_44

I have a feeling they get more then that.

I have a feeling they get more then that.
- Archaic

This is based off a few contract projections.

28 years old, sounds about right for both.

Oh
- mjones242

Its true though. He isnt physical at all. Acciari and Schenn should both be back though.

I think they get one of these guys


Compher is a good C, one of the better shutdown Cs in the NHL and had some selke buzz this season.

Bertuzzi for the obvious fit.
- Santo_44

Bertuzzi and Compher would both be great adds.. Bringing back Schenn and Acciari would be good too.

There is a 0% chance Kerfoot is back.

They have the cap space to spend a little more and fill a need with a better player than Kerfoot.
- Santo_44

I think Kerfoot, Holl and ZAR are all gone, which was too bad.. I like ZAR

I think they get one of these guys


Compher is a good C, one of the better shutdown Cs in the NHL and had some selke buzz this season.

Bertuzzi for the obvious fit.
- Santo_44

How does Haula measure up at 3C? He might come a little cheaper and shorter on term.

A first for Toffoli ...
A 3rd for Zadorov ...

Pretty good ...standard stuff. Signed Toffoli to a reasonable deal.

The whole world thought he pillaged FLA in the Tkachuk trade when it first happened. He did pretty well given that Tkachuk had control of the options.

A first, a decent prospect, Weegar (signed to decent money) and Huberdeau.

I would have opted for the rebuild and I think he overpaid Huberdeau but were it not for Sutter (Treliving's fault) and Markstrom having a terrible year I think that teams in the playoffs.

Again - I don't care if he's the guy or not but this idea that he's Chevyldayov is BS.
- The Law

A stupid long post? Because I did some research and was curious? OF COURSE!
Ultimately it's this: Treliving has maybe more misses than hits. He spent too long trying to find a goalie, has drafted alright, has kept his firsts for the most part, but is tragically bad at signing Free Agents. Some trades were better than others (I'd call the Toffoli trade awful - and that includes knowing he just had a career year). I'd struggle to evaluate the Tkachuk deal, but ultimately his youth and overall ability make him the best player in the deal, no matter whether Huberdeau had an off year or not. I really like Huberdeau, but he's on the wrong side of his prime.

TRADES

Good

- Got a 2nd and 3rd for Glencross

- Got a 2nd (Rasmus Andersson) for Baertschi

- Acquired Hamilton for the #15, 45 and 52 picks

- Traded up to #60 to get Kylington for #76 & #83

- Traded Hamilton (with Ferland and Fox's contract) for Lindholm and Hanifin.

- acquired Lucic and a 3rd for James Neal (hate him or not, Lucic had 35 goals and 83 points and played 283 games for Calgary while Neal played just 84 games, did score 24, but only 11 were at 5v5 and he was a bad liability for his time there).

- Getting a 3rd for David Rittich

- Acquiring Zadorov for a 3rd

- Acquiring Huberdeau, Weegar, Schwindt (3rd rounder), and a 1st for Tkachuk and a 4th.

Bad

- Acquiring Brian Elliott for a 2nd (used for Kyrou) & 3rd - basically falling into the trap that he was way better than he was because of St. Louis' excellent defense .

- trading a 2nd (Formenton) for Lazar and Kostka

- acquiring Hamonic & 4th for 1st (Dobson), 2nd (Ishakov) and a 2nd (Bolduc)

- struggling to identify a goaltender from the onset and bouncing around on one to two deals - starting with Hiller and Ramo and moving through a sea of inadequate to adequate in Chad Johnson, Brian Elliot, Mike Smith, David Rittich, Cam Talbot (who was actually pretty decent for them) - before finally getting Markstrom.

- Acquiring Toffoli for Pitlick, Heineman (a former 2nd, acquired in the Bennet trade), a 1st, a 5th and a 4th.

- Acquiring Jarnkrok for a 2nd, 3rd and 7th

- Trading Sean Monahan to Montreal with a 1st that gives Montreal the better of Calgary or Florida's 2025 1st round pick.


DRAFT

- in 9 drafts, he had 6 1st round picks (Bennett, Tkachuk, Valimaki, Pelletier, Zary and Coronato. The first two were traded and the third was claimed on waivers; the last three are all still prospects, with Pelletier being the weakest of the three)

- they have a lower ranked propsect pool in terms of depth and skill; in their system it's fronted by Coronato by a fair bit, followed by Wolf and to me, Connor Zary - who still could be a decent middle-6 option.

- that said, the Flames under Treliving still built some of their better players through deeper parts of the draft: Mangiapane (166), Kylington (60), Andersson (53), Dube (56), Fox (66) - never played, but was used in the Hamilton deal).

FREE AGENCY / CONTRACTS

Good

- Signed Cam Talbot to 1 x $2.75m

- Signed Markstrom to 6 x $6m – and I know this is debatable, but he is a good goalie – I think last year had more to do with the team quitting and Markstrom eating it from his coach than regression or age

- Signed Coleman to 6 x $4.9m – also debatable, but @ $4.9 and the fact that I think at least 4 of the 6 years will be good, I give it a pass.

BAD

- Signed Hiller to 2 x $4.5m

- Signed Mason Raymond to 3 x $3.2m

- Signed Ramo to 1 x $3.8m

- Signed Troy Brouwer to 4 x $4.5m -> You can read the buyout when you see it

- Signed Michael Stone to 3 x $3.5m -> Also bought out; crazy enough Stone stayed in Calgary for 4 more years, including this one, on 1 year league minimum deals.

- Signed Derek Ryan to 3 x $3.2m -> Didn’t buy him out, but sure didn’t get value

- Signed James Neal to a 5 x $5.8m deal

Unknown

- Signed Weegar to 8 x $6.25m; I’m a huge fan of Weegar. On the surface, this is a great deal. The last couple of years might be touchy – with Weegar being 37 at the deal’s conclusion.

- Signed Huberdeau to 8 x $10.5m; a crappy first year notwithstanding, Huberdeau is an elite puck mover and should rebound from that year. Still a risky deal @ $10.5m until he’s 38. You sort of think you’re getting 3-4 good years and then it’s a boat anchor.

I want the new GM to explore Karlsson.

See how much they are willing to retain and cost.
- Santo_44

something similar to what they retained for Burns but it also depends what going back the other way

How does Haula measure up at 3C? He might come a little cheaper and shorter on term.
- The Law

I like Nico Sturm on the Sharks.

2M for 2 seasons. Big, good defensively and can pot goals.

How does Haula measure up at 3C? He might come a little cheaper and shorter on term.
- The Law

At the end of the day - and I'm going to liberate from sens' post above, it depends on the coach and their style. I *love* Haula. Under Keefe, he'd probably be waiver-bait because when you think about all the "toughness" or gritty guys that have come through here: Simmonds, Clifford, Foligno, Ritchie, Hunt, Aube-Kubel, Aston-Reese - the forwards mostly failed because the system employed didn't exercise their skills. Having a passive forecheck basically nullifies the strength of those guys.