I was screaming it into the void. Against players like Bennett, Tkachuk, and Gudas, you have to draw the line early in the series. Period one of game one, lay down the law. If it means risking a suspension, then the earlier in the series, the better. Florida is gonna keep up those tactics because they are working.
- GalacticStone

We all were bud, we all were..

I was annoyed when Game 3 came and no lineup adjustments were made other than Knies.

Keefe always seems to get outcoached

I would love to see this board if the leafs made a trade like the Flames and missed the playoffs.
- Aaron_85

Oh man, I think a few poster would go postal!!!!!!!!

Oh man, I think a few poster would go postal!!!!!!!!
- dmnted

and Ottawa went deep with Dubas as their GM

Sign Eric Staal, trade for Bennett and Gudas. Hope yourgoalie goes on a historic run and then boom, Cup winners,..


A guy that can make hard decisions, seems like it would be Treliving
- PatC80

I like Treliving

He seems to make a big draft day trade more often than not.

We all were bud, we all were..

I was annoyed when Game 3 came and no lineup adjustments were made other than Knies.

Keefe always seems to get outcoached
- PatC80

All of that is on Keefe. Dubas gave him some pieces with sandpaper, but he refused to fully utilize them. I'm not defending Dubas by any means, but it would be different if the Leafs didn't have Acciari, Schenn, Simmons, and Bunting. Ok, Simmons is a pylon, but he can beat people up. You have him maul Tkachuk and get suspended. Simmons for Tkachuk is a great trade off.

I like Treliving

He seems to make a big draft day trade more often than not.
- Santo_44

Treliving could be a good hire, he'll be coming into a team that has a good foundation in place.

I like Treliving

He seems to make a big draft day trade more often than not.
- Santo_44

Treliving could be a good hire, he'll be coming into a team that has a good foundation in place.

All of that is on Keefe. Dubas gave him some pieces with sandpaper, but he refused to fully utilize them. I'm not defending Dubas by any means, but it would be different if the Leafs didn't have Acciari, Schenn, Simmons, and Bunting. Ok, Simmons is a pylon, but he can beat people up. You have him maul Tkachuk and get suspended. Simmons for Tkachuk is a great trade off.
- GalacticStone

Or even to just run Bobrovsky.. I expected a bigger pushback for the Knies bodyslam but nothing happened.

Here is the thing, if you were negotiating a contract would they actually say that? This isn't a situation where IN A CONTRACT Dubas is going to his boss and saying "gimme more money, & more power".

His contract was about to be up and that's when you negotiate.

Unless the opening offer was presented as "this is our one and only, best offer take it or leave" then to me it's a poopty way of doing business.

Case in point, I was successful in moving into a higher Mgt role after a job competition. I was offered the role and a salary, I counter offered for more $.

I wasn't fired for asking for more, all they can say is no.

As far as a Team Kyle or Team Shanny - m'eh. I was fine if Dubas wanted to leave, I thought he had done enough in the past 2 years to show he was able to adapt and change his approach & was the right guy to carry on (with a new coach) and make the big change that needed to be made. I also understand it's a business and was ok if MLSE felt differently and decided to fire him. My issue is how this was all handled reeks of MLSE mishandling it Shanny included.

I also really question why Shanny is allowed to continue in his role after a decade if the level of success the team he is responsible for has not met the expectations of the board. He's had 2 GM's now (soon to be 3) and likely soon to be 3 coaches in that time.

And if the stories of the oversight from Shanny is true can't say I'm surprised Dubas wanted more power - also not shocked MLSE didn't give it to him.
- Cush29

Dubas demanded full autonomy. Shanahan balked.

If this is true, there is no room to negotiate - you either give him the power he seeks or you send him packing. End of.

I like Treliving

He seems to make a big draft day trade more often than not.
- Santo_44

Out of curiosity, are there candidates who you don't like or would steer clear from?

Treliving could be a good hire, he'll be coming into a team that has a good foundation in place.
- PatC80

There's not really much on Treliving's resume that jumps out beyond the MT trade. One could argue that he overvalued Huberdeau in the trade and then, subsequently, signed him to an inflated, max term deal.

Weegar was a nice add (as par of the aforementioned trade) but Kadri was overcast when he signed.

It took some guts though to swing for the fences, especially when you're back was up against the wall (MT would not re-sign and Johnny Hockey walked).

Beyond that move, I think the rest of his trade history is rather mediocre. His drafting record has been decent: MT, Andersson, Mangiapane, et al.

I dunno, I think he's very, very "safe". Which is likely the landing pad Shanny, with a short leash, desperately needs at this point. Will he be a good lap dog? Probably.

Personally, I'd much, much rather go with Tulsky or Darche.

I agree... Keefe should have tried to match Florida's dirty, I mean physical play.. Give Simmonds a go, if even for a game. After Knies was power-bombed on the ice by Bennett, I thought, you've got to do something to stop Florida, because the refs/league are not going too.
- PatC80

#9 before he skated away

This would anger me, greatly.

There's not really much on Treliving's resume that jumps out beyond the MT trade. One could argue that he overvalued Huberdeau in the trade and then, subsequently, signed him to an inflated, max term deal.

Weegar was a nice add (as par of the aforementioned trade) but Kadri was overcast when he signed.

It took some guts though to swing for the fences, especially when you're back was up against the wall (MT would not re-sign and Johnny Hockey walked).

Beyond that move, I think the rest of his trade history is rather mediocre. His drafting record has been decent: MT, Andersson, Mangiapane, et al.

I dunno, I think he's very, very "safe". Which is likely the landing pad Shanny, with a short leash, desperately needs at this point. Will he be a good lap dog? Probably.

Personally, I'd much, much rather go with Tulsky or Darche.
- mjones242

Huh?

He fleeced Hamilton off Boston

He then turned Hamilton into Lindholm and Hanafin

#9 before he skated away

- Ratsreign

Glad you can see the humour in a dirty as (frank) play from a POS player that caused a rookie to sustain a concussion.

Shouldn't be surprised though after your BS in the last blog making excuses as to why the Panthers not being called for a high stick in the last minute of play was ok because of reasons and whataboutisms.

I"m sure you will find it equally funny when someone runs your goalie who is carrying the team on his back and knocks him out of the playoffs right?

Stay classy.

In all of the recent discussions about who stays and who goes, I haven't heard one person say that Keefe should stay. We'll soon see if the organization shares that lack of confidence in their coach.

IMO, Keefe was more to blame for recent playoff flameouts than Dubas.
- GalacticStone

Personally, I want him gone. Constantly playing Holl is more than enough reason to fire him.

But I also wouldn't mind seeing him do his job when his toys are completely taken from him.

Still think sign Brunette > keep Keefe, though.

Out of curiosity, are there candidates who you don't like or would steer clear from?
- mjones242

Chirelli

Benning

Those guys seem to have stink follow them.

Bergavin just seems like a douche.

Glad you can see the humour in a dirty as (frank) play from a POS player that caused a rookie to sustain a concussion.

Shouldn't be surprised though after your BS in the last blog making excuses as to why the Panthers not being called for a high stick in the last minute of play was ok because of reasons and whataboutisms.

I"m sure you will find it equally funny when someone runs your goalie who is carrying the team on his back and knocks him out of the playoffs right?

Stay classy.
- Cush29

Come on man, I posted it that instead of going off on how overblown and ridiculous these takes on it are.
Apparently not one Leaf player saw it as many of you do, didn’t do anything that game, except tell the press they found it objectionable afterwards. Didn’t do anything about it the next game, either. Maybe they saw the replays and see Hockey happening, idk. They all shook his hand after the series and wished him luck. Not even a word said about the power bomb choke slam gratuitous attack on the wunderkind.
Facts that fit your viewpoint = the truth
Facts that do not = excuses

Whatever. Have a good day.

Huh?

He fleeced Hamilton off Boston

He then turned Hamilton into Lindholm and Hanafin
- Santo_44

A 1st and 2 2nds for Hamilton is not a "fleecing". Bruins could have drafted Barzal, Connor, Chabot, or Ek but instead took Senyshyn with that #15 pick. Whoops on the Bs.

Also, you seem to have forgotten that future Norris Trophy winner Adam Fox was sent the other way in the Hamilton deal.

Chirelli

Benning

Those guys seem to have stink follow them.

Bergavin just seems like a douche.
- Santo_44

Agreed on all fronts here. None of these guys should be given a sniff. I'd also add Bowman to the list.

Personally, I want him gone. Constantly playing Holl is more than enough reason to fire him.

But I also wouldn't mind seeing him do his job when his toys are completely taken from him.

Still think sign Brunette > keep Keefe, though.
- GreatGigInTheSky

I will forever have my mind boggled by Dubas deciding to protect Holl and not McCann.

Granted, I don't think McCann necessarily is a 40 goal guy on TML, but Dubas felt Holl was too valuable to lose in the expansion draft.

I don't think the Core gets broken up just to break it up and I don't think they want to be an inferior version of themselves. If a swap of Marner for a #1D is an option you can find, you have to consider it, especially if it leaves you money on the cap to find a couple of other wingers who can play in the top-6.

But if Shanahan is handcuffing an incoming GM from the get-go, he's limiting the quality of GM he's going to get.
- Monkeypunk

An experienced GM gets treated like an experienced GM - autonomy. Just like big Lou had and confirmed that he had throughout his tenure.

If he hires another 32 yr old with no experience then they should expect some additional oversight.

Come on man, I posted it that instead of going off on how overblown and ridiculous these takes on it are.
Apparently not one Leaf player saw it as many of you do, didn’t do anything that game, except tell the press they found it objectionable afterwards. Didn’t do anything about it the next game, either. Maybe they saw the replays and see Hockey happening, idk. They all shook his hand after the series and wished him luck. Not even a word said about the power bomb choke slam gratuitous attack on the wunderkind.
Facts that fit your viewpoint = the truth
Facts that do not = excuses

Whatever. Have a good day.
- Ratsreign

You'd have to be all world stupid to think that.

An experienced GM gets treated like an experienced GM - autonomy. Just like big Lou had and confirmed that he had throughout his tenure.

If he hires another 32 yr old with no experience then they should expect some additional oversight.
- The Law

I think major moves need to be approved by higher ups and ownership no matter who the GM is. Especially if long term, big money contracts are coming in.

I think it would be very rare indeed for a GM to have full 100% autonomy.

I will forever have my mind boggled by Dubas deciding to protect Holl and not McCann.

Granted, I don't think McCann necessarily is a 40 goal guy on TML, but Dubas felt Holl was too valuable to lose in the expansion draft.
- mjones242

Add Sparks v McEinney to that list too.

(Don't care that Sparks was the winner in the A and younger so "he had to" ...BS...keep the better goalie. Always.)