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Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

May 28 @ 6:34 PM ET
Nah, dont want chia in charge of moving out any assets or talent
- Fakepartofme


That’s a fun hatred lol thank you for that
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

May 28 @ 6:36 PM ET
Since he pretty much is boss of said players and coach, then yes. His fault.
And I agree.
And I think we should try get a top 3 pick this year, because after putting me through this poop since '84, I want a shiny new toy and more cap room.

- oldstyle


84’ is the same year my youngest sister was born so we’re the same generation and seeing things similarly
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

May 28 @ 6:44 PM ET
Gillis? He ran the Canucks from April 2008 - April 2014. In the 5 drafts he oversaw, he managed to draft Hodgson, Connaughton, Schroeder, Ben Hutton - and finally Bo Horvat with the #9 pick he received for completely (frank)ing their goalie situation and forcing himself into trading both Schneider and Luongo - plunging them into the Miller/Lack years of netminding which was solidly below average, before Markstrom emerged after a few years. Notably the first draft after he was fired, the new GM, Benning, drafted Virtanen (thank you), Demko, McCann and Forsling (of course Benning would trade McCann for Gudbranson, so not so great).

I mean he inherited Vigneault, kept him, and them when he decided to make a coaching change, he hired Tortorella - to coach the Sedins! His very trade involved giving up a 2nd and a 3rd for Steve (frank)ing Bernier.

His trades were nothing spectacular either - his best move was probably acquiring Ehrhoff from San Jose for next to nothing, getting 2 solid years out of him and then moving him before the UFA period started for a 4th - and NOT signing him to the idiotic 10 year deal that Buffalo did.

He did get the pick that landed Horvat for Schneider, although he created the situation. He also managed to land Markstrom and Mattias for Luongo, but frankly that's a pretty weak haul for one of the league's best goalies.

He wasn't that bad contractually - doing a good job of keeping the team together and not really overpaying too much for the core. He famously pursued Sundin after he debated retirement, but that didn't work out. I would say that his big UFA signings were probably Sundin, Hamhuis (worked out), Garrison (overpayment that did not work out) - which isn't much over 5 UFA periods. Internally he did sign Luongo to the "my contract sucks" contract and really overpaid Burrows.

I think there's a legitimate reason he hasn't worked. His team made it to the Cup Finals with an excellent, previously assembled core, but I don't think did anything to make it better.

- Monkeypunk


Gillis had inherited a team that missed the playoffs 2 of the past 3 years. The year the Canucks qualified in the middle they rode a vezina calibre season from Luongo to achieve their success, including a 70 save effort in the first round against Dallas.

Gillis let Naslund walk, whom he been player agent for prior to accepting his position as Canucks GM. It was the right move. He later let Willie Mitchell go which turned out to be a bad move but at the time seemed like the right move due to his concussion history.

He signed Malholtra , which was the reason they won the PT the first year. Brutal Eye injury derailed a cup winning season where they instead lost in game 7 of the SCF. Prior to that he signed, Samuelson from Detroit and Sundin. Sundin did score 8 pts in 8 playoff games but he also had a groin injury.

He also traded for guys like Higgins, Lapierre, Torres without giving up much. They were all on that SCF roster playing significant roles.

I think TO has much better scouting than Gillis had when he joined Vancouver, you wouldn't even assign those responsibilities to him and you'd do well.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

May 28 @ 6:46 PM ET
No I'm saying why dont Marner and JT live elsewhere like Matthews and Willy do and just stay in TO during the season if the tax thing is an issue.

I'm not arguing how taxation works, I'm arguing it's impact on players deciding to sign contracts in Toronto. It clearly isn't an issue, and if we can clearly see it isn't an issue for everyone else who's signed here, why would we assume Matthews is the guy it's an issue for?

- joel878


Matthews is the one guy it is not an issue for tbh. It’s because he gets the majority of his cash in one payment, a signing bonus every July 1st, while living in Arizona. Easy to pay him, league minimum plus signing bonuses every year.

JT and Marner still live in Canada hence the overpayment, it’s why 5 of the top 10 salaries are Canadian, it’s why there were numerous Americans on the leafs roster in the bottom roles, it is literally a real issue.

Just wish the league would go with a “take-home cap” to say loosely. The league does not control a governments taxation pay-wise and I do honestly think it’s a primary reason that no Canadian team has won the cup under the cap. Close but only when unexpected. Canadian teams are essentially forced to overpay a bit plain and simple.

Kerfoot is another example except for year two (which I honestly don’t know why), $750K a year coupled with July 1 bonuses
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

May 28 @ 6:59 PM ET
Matthews is the one guy it is not an issue for tbh. It’s because he gets the majority of his cash in one payment, a signing bonus every July 1st, while living in Arizona. Easy to pay him, league minimum plus signing bonuses every year.

JT and Marner still live in Canada hence the overpayment, it’s why 5 of the top 10 salaries are Canadian, it’s why there were numerous Americans on the leafs roster in the bottom roles, it is literally a real issue.

Just wish the league would go with a “take-home cap” to say loosely. The league does not control a governments taxation pay-wise and I do honestly think it’s a primary reason that no Canadian team has won the cup under the cap. Close but only when unexpected. Canadian teams are essentially forced to overpay a bit plain and simple.

Kerfoot is another example except for year two (which I honestly don’t know why), $750K a year coupled with July 1 bonuses

- Dozzer


I really have no horse in this tax thing.

On the one hand it's clearly a thing.

On the other if the thing is the difference between someone making 60 million and 65 million dollars, they're at a point rich is just rich and it starts to look like hair splitting. Yes they get taxed more but they're in a market they earn USD and pay CAD for everything, there's more endorsement opportunity, etc.

I feel like there's a point where other factors start to outweigh what might be a few extra $$$.

I've read quite a bit about Auston allegedly being a legacy guy. The idea that he can play for an original six franchise and potentially be one of its greatest players ever apparently matters to him more than most things. The guy is rich no matter what and he can get that money elsewhere but he's 7 years invested into the legacy aspect and can't get that back elsewhere.

Plus, when he's out at UFC events soaking up the cameras with the Biebs, I don't get the impression he's a get me out of the spotlight kind of guy.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ,all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 28 @ 7:07 PM ET
I question whether Bertuzzi wants to be in Canada at this point what with the whole vaccination fiasco.

Love the guy but don't know where his head is at this point.

- mjones242

Why? If he had been playing in a Canadian team he would not have been allowed into the US to play. Both countries had the same requirements (there may have been a s,Ishtar difference in timing from when they came off.). Bertuzzi was chirped by other players for being the only unvaccinated player in the league at one point.
Mike Augello
Commissioner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.25.2006

May 28 @ 8:15 PM ET
new blog everyone
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