The meat of the list is fine . For starters....Hedman on there twice..As for quality....Where is Sergachev and Carlson ??? Spurgeon....seriously ....he wouldn't make my top 50. Neither would Pelech. I'd rather pick Luke Hughes over either of them in a heartbeat..... Chychrun, M.Rielly ?

The bigger problem is lots of them are more than 6 ft tall and weigh over 200 lbs which was the whole point of the exercise.
- jetsnation

Reilly can’t defend, and Chychrun was the last cut along with Pulock. Sergachev is overrated for me, and Carlson is cooked as an elite D.
I knew I would list someone twice. Make it a Chychrun for second Hedman.

Worth noting, Spurgeon has a better argument for top 5 vs top 50

In no particular order: my top 30:
(***=do it again, ion trust like that. **=aging. *=too young to be cemented)
1. Miro
2. Spurgeon
3. EK
4. Hedman
5. Morrissey***
6. Fox
7. McAvoy
8. Dahlin
9. Slavin
10. Makar
11. Toews
12. Mo
13. Josi
14. Dougie
15. Ekholm**
16. Chabot*
17. Letang**
18. Dunn
19. Chychrun
20. Hughes
21. Theodore
22. Bouchard*
23. Montour***
24. Pelech
25. Pietrangelo**
26. Dobson*
27. Doughty**
28. Lindholm***
29. Weegar
30. Werenski
31. Enstrom


This was harder than I expected.
- Rexypoo

Enstrom....lol.....nice one !
So...you found a handful of high-end defencemen that were undersized.
Thanks for wasting everyone's time on this.

Enstrom....lol.....nice one !
So...you found a handful of high-end defencemen that were undersized.
Thanks for wasting everyone's time on this.
- bennythehat

Dude I don’t know what you wanted. Should I break down what I like about each player, and how their physicality is very rarely a factor to their success?

Dude I don’t know what you wanted. Should I break down what I like about each player, and how their physicality is very rarely a factor to their success?
- Rexypoo

Please don't break down anything further as your opinions on players do not interest me.

Your list proves you wrong with regards to size.

WEIGHT - 8 players under the 195 mark. Another 5 between 195-199.
HEIGHT - 4 players under the 6 foot mark.

Vast majority of "your" Top 30 are at least 6 feet tall and 195 pounds.
Exceptions - Makar, Fox, Hughes, and Spurgeon.

In no particular order: my top 30:
(***=do it again, ion trust like that. **=aging. *=too young to be cemented)
1. Miro
2. Spurgeon
3. EK
4. Hedman
5. Morrissey***
6. Fox
7. McAvoy
8. Dahlin
9. Slavin
10. Makar
11. Toews
12. Mo
13. Josi
14. Dougie
15. Ekholm**
16. Chabot*
17. Letang**
18. Dunn
19. Chychrun
20. Hughes
21. Theodore
22. Bouchard*
23. Montour***
24. Pelech
25. Pietrangelo**
26. Dobson*
27. Doughty**
28. Lindholm***
29. Weegar
30. Werenski
31. Enstrom


This was harder than I expected.
- Rexypoo

This was a good list Rexy. I would love for you to break down reasons for picking each. It would be great to understand your perspectives a tad better.

This was a good list Rexy. I would love for you to break down reasons for picking each. It would be great to understand your perspectives a tad better.
- TheUltimateJet

Hard pass on this....despite your attempt to try and subtly draw out his continually flawed biases.

Please don't break down anything further as your opinions on players do not interest me.

Your list proves you wrong with regards to size.

WEIGHT - 8 players under the 195 mark. Another 5 between 195-199.
HEIGHT - 4 players under the 6 foot mark.

Vast majority of "your" Top 30 are at least 6 feet tall and 195 pounds.
Exceptions - Makar, Fox, Hughes, and Spurgeon.
- bennythehat

And at absolute most 5 on that list would drop out if you took off 3 inches and 15lbs.

That goes double because a lot of the elite guys tend to do far less on the defensive side than the offensive side of things. Not hitting or leaning on a lot of folk when you constantly have the puck.

If you want a list of pure shutdown defencemen, you’ll probably find they skew to the smaller side more than the average. DeMelo, Siegenthaler, Middleton, Brodin, etc. Samberg and Dillon make it for me, though.

And at absolute most 5 on that list would drop out if you took off 3 inches and 15lbs.

That goes double because a lot of the elite guys tend to do far less on the defensive side than the offensive side of things. Not hitting or leaning on a lot of folk when you constantly have the puck.

If you want a list of pure shutdown defencemen, you’ll probably find they skew to the smaller side more than the average. DeMelo, Siegenthaler, Middleton, Brodin, etc. Samberg and Dillon make it for me, though.
- Rexypoo

Deep in the Bavarian Forest, Rexy works at a secret laboratory, attempting to create an army of Enstrom clones.

Hard pass on this....despite your attempt to try and subtly draw out his continually flawed biases.
- jetsnation

hey Jetsnation and benny, lets cool our jets (see what i did there) on the rudeness, no need for it, Rexy did what you asked and put some work into it. dont be as*hats

hey Jetsnation and benny, lets cool our jets (see what i did there) on the rudeness, no need for it, Rexy did what you asked and put some work into it. dont be as*hats
- Ross77

No further comments from me.....I do have better things to do.

No further comments from me.....I do have better things to do.
- bennythehat

Same. On vacation for next 10 days. I just like to see people own up to being wrong on something ( which the facts clearly demonstrate in this particular case) rather than trying to continue to defend.

hey Jetsnation and benny, lets cool our jets (see what i did there) on the rudeness, no need for it, Rexy did what you asked and put some work into it. dont be as*hats
- Ross77

This!

hey Jetsnation and benny, lets cool our jets (see what i did there) on the rudeness, no need for it, Rexy did what you asked and put some work into it. dont be as*hats
- Ross77

i'm happy to be an as*hat for anyone who is as condescending and smug as Rexy.

Deep in the Bavarian Forest, Rexy works at a secret laboratory, attempting to create an army of Enstrom clones.
- bennythehat

The goal would be to combine the offensive skill of 2010 with the defensive skill of 2017. Then add functioning knees.

i'm happy to be an as*hat for anyone who is as condescending and smug as Rexy.
- 2.0

I’m gonna buy you a beer one day. And make sure it’s in a can so you can’t break it over my head when I get into how Hainsey carried Bogo

I’m gonna buy you a beer one day. And make sure it’s in a can so you can’t break it over my head when I get into how Hainsey carried Bogo
- Rexypoo

Don’t bring beer into this, it did nothing wrong

Don’t bring beer into this, it did nothing wrong
- 2.0

That’s why it represents the bridge of friendship

That’s why it represents the bridge of friendship
- Rexypoo

Friendships and connections are what make life worth living!

Friendships and connections are what make life worth living!
- TheUltimateJet

No, it's beer that makes life worth living.

No, it's beer that makes life worth living.
- JetFuel

Wrong! It's rum that makes life worth living! Beer a close second!!

Wrong! It's rum that makes life worth living! Beer a close second!!
- grahamzky

I support the Rum Party