If he can't average 2 points a game he's clearly a bust.
- HawkintheD

He was benched tonight, obviously the coaching staff have already come to that conclusion.

He was benched tonight, obviously the coaching staff have already come to that conclusion.
- paulr

#connorbedud

Ouch...yeah. Sammy is in some pain.

Edit - Crap

Ouch...yeah. Sammy is in some pain.

Edit - Crap
- HawkintheD

Looks like he for sure broke something.

Looking like knee and or tendon area- and a decent chance of the above mentioned -as they pulled out the stretcher... you could put weight on without a break... classy move by Khaira.

I see they had him turned on his left side protecting his right leg. The one that was basically looking like there was no control of it - I am guessing that has to be where the injury is ... and 9:45 of the 3rd the fans doing the wave... I have been booed for not doing the wave when in sparsely attended crowds ... Kemper in KC in the 90's and am pretty sure it happened at the U of I during their club games down in Champaign in the 80's... fun times. :D

Patrick Kane was always a special player who was going to score yet early in his career Quenneville benched him several times because he made poor decisions or bad plays or didn’t cover defensively. I suspect Richardson will be more concerned about Bedard’s all round game than being creative about his ice time so he can get 100 points or win the Calder this season.
- paulr

I don't remember Q benching him several times. I remember a long leash.
If Richardson is as smart as you think he is, he's renting because it is more likely that the same thing that happened to Savard is going to happen to Richardson when management realizes that the window with generational players is small and there is no point in having an inexperienced coach when you have a chance to be great. The best thing Richardson can do now is spend all of his time trying to fix the defense here, leave Bedard alone, get him on the ice, and let him weave his magic. As great an offensive player as Kane was right out of the gate, Bedard looks to have a more complete 2 way game. Funny you mention Kane. I think the start is going to be awful and the Hawks are going to end up signing Kane a month into the season.

It won't matter if he scores 40, 60, 80 or 100, or more. The Hawks are not winning anything this season. It's all about progress and building the team. It's about the long game getting Bedard ready to be a big factor for Chicago for a long time. There is no reason to put sky high expectations on him this season.
- breadbag

It does matter. Only a couple of the guys on the opening night roster are going to be on this team when they are going to have a chance to win. Bedard having a great season, being named captain next year and holding everyone to a high standard is what is going to turn this around.

It does matter. Only a couple of the guys on the opening night roster are going to be on this team when they are going to have a chance to win. Bedard having a great season, being named captain next year and holding everyone to a high standard is what is going to turn this around.
- stevefrmglencoe

All the bolded is why it doesn't matter. All those things will happen whether he score 60 points or 100.

it's more likely that the same thing that happened to Savard is going to happen to Richardson when management realizes that the window with generational players is small and there is no point in having an inexperienced coach when you have a chance to be great.
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- stevefrmglencoe

Glad to see you posting. I guess I'm with everyone who posts here that I like Richardson, a lot. This ain't meant to be a dig but I think you're the only one on the internets that doesn't like LR.

Keep posting what you don't like with LR cuz it's hard, or impossible, to read a negative critique of Luke.

Last yr he had em playing hard and best of all some structure, no running around. And that was with a horrid roster.... This yr so far we see a speed game being played that we didn't see last yr. New personnel, new systems. To my eye that shows fine coaching. Design systems that fits your personnel, no?........ We've seen two different rosters and LR seems to have optimize their strengths so far, no?

In fact, without thinking this thru, the only guy in 2 games that looked tentative was Ludwinski. If I'm right that's some solid coaching/preparation, no?

Liked what I saw both nights. This group of many fringe NHLers showed well. Not much running around, no breakdowns per say, many times 3-4 touches before they enter the zone with speed, some decent outs, structure seemed fine. I liked what I saw......

An LR group so far in 1yr plus a preseason looks prepared, coached up, systems to accentuate strengths and minimize weaknesses and they play with hunger and effort.

Interesting topic you bring up though. Will LR be the coach when they switch to win mode? So far, from what he and his teams have shown, I think so.

I don't remember Q benching him several times. I remember a long leash.
If Richardson is as smart as you think he is, he's renting because it is more likely that the same thing that happened to Savard is going to happen to Richardson when management realizes that the window with generational players is small and there is no point in having an inexperienced coach when you have a chance to be great. The best thing Richardson can do now is spend all of his time trying to fix the defense here, leave Bedard alone, get him on the ice, and let him weave his magic. As great an offensive player as Kane was right out of the gate, Bedard looks to have a more complete 2 way game. Funny you mention Kane. I think the start is going to be awful and the Hawks are going to end up signing Kane a month into the season.
- stevefrmglencoe

Kane isn’t coming back to play on a rebuilding team. I am not trying to rip on your posts, but Kane will not be playing on the Hawks.

Allan will be first call up if an injury or another youngin falters in the big show.
- LAHawk

You mean the guy with jam that I likened to Richardson?

If I am on this coaching staff, Allan's not going anywhere.

Looks like he for sure broke something.
- breadbag

They way he was screaming I thought he broke it.

One of the two Minny blabbermouths was saying if you are rebuilding, you want to win the first pick after you have some pieces in place.

(Holy the Ducks should gotten him!)

Stamkos can and little was in place.
the next year Hedman, but NO OTHER drafted prospects those years were part of Cup runs
The next year Brett Connolly flopped and third rounder Radko Gudas help another teams Cup run...not theirs.
Next year Kucherov late in the second round...Ondrej Palat in the 7tyh, but that's it.
the next year flopped and Andrei Vasilevskiy well, excelled.
they had to wait two years to hit with Brayden Point, no others.
My entire point is they are incorrect, even Stamkos Hedman & Kucherov had to be patient and anyone who thinks winning Connor Bedard is a challenge way to build a Blackhawk, is from Minnesota, eh?

The expansion islanders drafted their Cup dynasty players year by yea...and added the Butch Gorings when they started percolating.

One of the two Minny blabbermouths was saying if you are rebuilding, you want to win the first pick after you have some pieces in place.

(Holy the Ducks should gotten him!)

Stamkos can and little was in place.
the next year Hedman, but NO OTHER drafted prospects those years were part of Cup runs
The next year Brett Connolly flopped and third rounder Radko Gudas help another teams Cup run...not theirs.
Next year Kucherov late in the second round...Ondrej Palat in the 7tyh, but that's it.
the next year flopped and Andrei Vasilevskiy well, excelled.
they had to wait two years to hit with Brayden Point, no others.
My entire point is they are incorrect, even Stamkos Hedman & Kucherov had to be patient and anyone who thinks winning Connor Bedard is a challenge way to build a Blackhawk, is from Minnesota, eh?

The expansion islanders drafted their Cup dynasty players year by yea...and added the Butch Gorings when they started percolating.
- wiz1901

Definitely more than one way to build a team that can get to the top. The TV guy was nittpicking. I think teams with pieces in place are less likely to finish with a high chance of 1st pick.

Watching the highlights of tonight’s game. Guttman had a great shift with two post shots. Bjork coughed up the puck badly and looks lost. Entwhistle’s skating is tough to watch. Korchinski was a little stunned to get pinned against the boards, but he’ll learn how much more physical this league is than juniors. His skating stood out, nice to watch.

After watching him produce points in the WHL and then in the WJC makes it clear he is special. Watching him live confirms how special this guy is. Exceeding a point a game will get him to 100+. Just going to take some creativity behind the bench to get him on the ice at the right times.
- stevefrmglencoe

So, you are basically presuming your conclusion is correct and seem to be willing to dismiss or ignore any evidence to the contrary?

There can’t be ANY other reason that he doesn’t hit 1+ PPG? It must be on the coaches?

Kane isn’t coming back to play on a rebuilding team. I am not trying to rip on your posts, but Kane will not be playing on the Hawks.
- ChicagoHope

You are probably right and I might be dreaming.
However, Foligno and Perry would be playing for $750k on every other team in the league. If Davidson is willing to pay $4 million for those two and there is $12.8 of cap space left here, who knows? Highly unlikely but he is 3 great statistical seasons from rewriting the Hawks record book and as debated here earlier in the summer, there may be family considerations.

So, you are basically presuming your conclusion is correct and seem to be willing to dismiss or ignore any evidence to the contrary?

There can’t be ANY other reason that he doesn’t hit 1+ PPG? It must be on the coaches?
- Chunk

He could get hurt. Short of that, I do believe with a lot of ice time, especially power play time and 3 on 3 overtime he will produce.

You are probably right and I might be dreaming.
However, Foligno and Perry would be playing for $750k on every other team in the league. If Davidson is willing to pay $4 million for those two and there is $12.8 of cap space left here, who knows? Highly unlikely but he is 3 great statistical seasons from rewriting the Hawks record book and as debated here earlier in the summer, there may be family considerations.
- stevefrmglencoe

Even if Kane wanted to come back, KD has made it abundantly clear, that the franchise has moved on from 88 and 19, and has full backing from Danny.So even if Kane wanted to come back at $750K, it isn’t happening.

Even if Kane wanted to come back, KD has made it abundantly clear, that the franchise has moved on from 88 and 19, and has full backing from Danny.So even if Kane wanted to come back at $750K, it isn’t happening.
- LAHawk

Agree...Kyle from Chicago has said multiple times he wants the young Core they are building to be allowed to grow as a group and become the leaders of the clubhouse.

Also agree with KD that that would have been difficult with 88 and 19 still wearing Hawk jerseys.

He could get hurt. Short of that, I do believe with a lot of ice time, especially power play time and 3 on 3 overtime he will produce.
- stevefrmglencoe

So nothing to do with the fact that this is still a below average roster…

You are probably right and I might be dreaming.
However, Foligno and Perry would be playing for $750k on every other team in the league. If Davidson is willing to pay $4 million for those two and there is $12.8 of cap space left here, who knows? Highly unlikely but he is 3 great statistical seasons from rewriting the Hawks record book and as debated here earlier in the summer, there may be family considerations.
- stevefrmglencoe

Money has absolutely nothing to do with Kane not being on the Hawks. He himself has said he wants to play in the playoffs. That is not the Hawks right now.

While I, and everyone else, would have loved for KD to be able to add pieces this year to make them a much more competitive team, that’s not the direction they are taking. They are building as much of the team through the draft as they can, and will fill in the blanks as they arise. It’s going to be a longer process.

So nothing to do with the fact that this is still a below average roster…
- Chunk

I think during the 20+ minutes a game Bedard is on the ice they are not going to be below average.

Money has absolutely nothing to do with Kane not

being on the Hawks. He himself has said he wants to play in the playoffs. That is not the Hawks right now.

While I, and everyone else, would have loved for KD to be able to add pieces this year to make them a much more competitive team, that’s not the direction they are taking. They are building as much of the team through the draft as they can, and will fill in the blanks as they arise. It’s going to be a longer process.
- Chunk

I am not going to underestimate the importance of money. The top teams have little cap space and until I see Kane sign for a low end deal I am going to believe that if the Hawks want to keep the positive momentum despite being lower in the standings, signing Kane checks a lot of boxes. It isn't Davidson's decision. Wirtz owns the team and can do whatever he wants. As for filing in the blanks as needed, Davidson did manage to find the only 2 guys in the NHL that are slower than Khaira and sign them to 5X deals.

I am not going to underestimate the importance of money. The top teams have little cap space and until I see Kane sign for a low end deal I am going to believe that if the Hawks want to keep the positive momentum despite being lower in the standings, signing Kane checks a lot of boxes. It isn't Davidson's decision. Wirtz owns the team and can do whatever he wants. As for filing in the blanks as needed, Davidson did manage to find the only 2 guys in the NHL that are slower than Khaira and sign them to 5X deals.
- stevefrmglencoe

What boxes does Kane check? Do you think that KD trading Kane at the TDL, and for that matter telling Toews he will not be resigned was not without the approval of Wirtz, whether it was Danny or even Rocky at that time?