below the eagles in the standings?
- 2Real

Dude is crying for attention

Look at Connor McDavid's game logs. Look at Dave Pasternak. The most games he went without scoring a goal was 3 games.
- MJL

What a joke this is! McDavid gets to play every PP with Draisaitl and Pasternak played with Bergeron and Marchand every night. In the last two season who did TK play with? I mean it's not even fair to try to compare these players. Another problem with this argument is you are equating scoring or not scoring as a measure of consistency when one does not equate to the other. TK brings his game just about every time he steps on the ice. I have rarely seen him take games off. I can't make this statement for Frost. Maybe this year I will be able to and if so I will be happy to do so.

Thank you Peter! It's unfortunate that people like MJL and MBFlyerFan would rather take shots at people instead of just talking hockey and Flyers. It seems in their minds they are the hockey brains and everyone else are just trolls or don't know what they are talking about. I have been involved in New England hockey for decades, I will not get more into it than that, and yet these munchkins come on here and act like they know everything and are just threatened by people like me that constantly expose them. Its sad. I mean just look at the 100s of posts from MJL as an example, he spends hours just insulting people and arguing every single day on here, I wish I had that kind of time. No check that, I am glad I don't have that kind of time!
- jd250

Trust me, there isn't a single person on here that is threatened by you. Nor are you capable of exposing anyone. There is a public record unfortunately for you. I have never called you or labeled you a troll.

Thank you Peter! It's unfortunate that people like MJL and MBFlyerFan would rather take shots at people instead of just talking hockey and Flyers. It seems in their minds they are the hockey brains and everyone else are just trolls or don't know what they are talking about. I have been involved in New England hockey for decades, I will not get more into it than that, and yet these munchkins come on here and act like they know everything and are just threatened by people like me that constantly expose them. Its sad. I mean just look at the 100s of posts from MJL as an example, he spends hours just insulting people and arguing every single day on here, I wish I had that kind of time. No check that, I am glad I don't have that kind of time!
- jd250

You brought me in to this with your insult. Dont play innocent.

What a joke this is! McDavid gets to play every PP with Draisaitl and Pasternak played with Bergeron and Marchand every night. In the last two season who did TK play with? I mean it's not even fair to try to compare these players. Another problem with this argument is you are equating scoring or not scoring as a measure of consistency when one does not equate to the other. TK brings his game just about every time he steps on the ice. I have rarely seen him take games off. I can't make this statement for Frost. Maybe this year I will be able to and if so I will be happy to do so.
- jd250

Am I interpreting this correctly? You're attempting to state that the reason why Konecny isn't on the level of McDavid and Pasternak is due to who he plays with? Are you seriously trying to suggest that an offensive player like Konecny shouldn't be measured on consistency by his scoring? You are mistaken in thinking that there was any comparison attempt made between those players. They were offered simply to show what consistency actually is. Posts like this is why nobody will take you serious when you try and clout credentials and say that you expose people. The only person you expose is yourself.

Jeezus ...

If A>B and C>D and B is paired with D then it is logical to hypothetically project a pairing of A&C will over time consistently produce better than the combination of B&D when it comes to scoring ..

Or in laymans terms, if you have nothing better than the equivalent of 3rd line forwards ranked on most teams but play as 1st or 2nd line forwards because they are the best you have, than they will tend to not produce the stats that legit 1st line forwards will consistently ...

Thank you Peter! It's unfortunate that people like MJL and MBFlyerFan would rather take shots at people instead of just talking hockey and Flyers. It seems in their minds they are the hockey brains and everyone else are just trolls or don't know what they are talking about. I have been involved in New England hockey for decades, I will not get more into it than that, and yet these munchkins come on here and act like they know everything and are just threatened by people like me that constantly expose them. Its sad. I mean just look at the 100s of posts from MJL as an example, he spends hours just insulting people and arguing every single day on here, I wish I had that kind of time. No check that, I am glad I don't have that kind of time!
- jd250

No worries. You are not always right but have pointed out in the past when you have been. They troll you on the daily. Various opinions are always welcomed.

Am I interpreting this correctly? You're attempting to state that the reason why Konecny isn't on the level of McDavid and Pasternak is due to who he plays with? Are you seriously trying to suggest that an offensive player like Konecny shouldn't be measured on consistency by his scoring? You are mistaken in thinking that there was any comparison attempt made between those players. They were offered simply to show what consistency actually is. Posts like this is why nobody will take you serious when you try and clout credentials and say that you expose people. The only person you expose is yourself.
- MJL

Consistency in scoring? Moving the goals posts again with more spin and rhetoric

Jeezus ...

If A>B and C>D and B is paired with D then it is logical to hypothetically project a pairing of A&C will over time consistently produce better than the combination of B&D when it comes to scoring ..

Or in laymans terms, if you have nothing better than the equivalent of 3rd line forwards ranked on most teams but play as 1st or 2nd line forwards because they are the best you have, than they will tend to not produce the stats that legit 1st line forwards will consistently ...
- jackfrost

It's even simpler than that. 3rd line and 2nd line players don't produce as consistently as 1st line level players. Therefore, the overwhelming majority of NHL players are inconsistent. Since there are far more 2nd, 3rd and 4th line players for that matter than there are 1st line level players.

It's even simpler than that. 3rd line and 2nd line players don't produce as consistently as 1st line level players. Therefore, the overwhelming majority of NHL players are inconsistent. Since there are far more 2nd, 3rd and 4th line players for that matter than there are 1st line level players.
- MJL

And yet there they are in the big leagues collecting a paycheck paid on their skills which are at a higher level than anyone on here tapping their keyboard trying to prove others wrong each and every day / night

And yet there they are in the big leagues collecting a paycheck paid on their skills which are at a higher level than anyone on here tapping their keyboard trying to prove others wrong each and every day / night
- jackfrost

Yea, you can compare NHL players to posters on here to determine their inconsistency if you choose to, but I wouldn't.

List what players on the Flyers are consistent players?

A player can play with effort every game and still be an inconsistent player. Just because a player is playing hard with effort, doesn't mean they're playing well.
- MJL[/quot
ND is consistently bad

no but this the worst website ever
- THE BLACK HAND

Lol thanks for the laugh! You've had a few good ones lately!

chiefs barely beating the jets i guess they should be worried

I try to be respectful and I'm open to anyone disagreeing with me. Provide something though other than rhetoric and name calling. The troll brigade gets all wound up. Between them, they can't make a single intelligent comment. Not trying to suck you into this. Just talking.
- MJL

You've had some classics but this is your best post ever! "Open to anyone disagreeing with me" - sure but they will face a barrage of insults and a condescending response questioning their intelligence and calling them trolls. Bravo!

I really would like to see Brink, Foerster, and Andrae all make the team. I think its time.
- MBFlyerfan

Me too.

Am I interpreting this correctly? You're attempting to state that the reason why Konecny isn't on the level of McDavid and Pasternak is due to who he plays with? Are you seriously trying to suggest that an offensive player like Konecny shouldn't be measured on consistency by his scoring? You are mistaken in thinking that there was any comparison attempt made between those players. They were offered simply to show what consistency actually is. Posts like this is why nobody will take you serious when you try and clout credentials and say that you expose people. The only person you expose is yourself.
- MJL

Konecny is not at the level of McDavid, but trust me, there is nothing that special about Pastrnak. Just ask hockey people in Boston what they think of him, even after he put in 60 goals last season. Lets see how well Pastrnak scores this year with Zacha as his center instead of Bergeron. All I am saying is put Konecny on a line with a real 1C and a good winger an let him play 75+ games in a season, and he can produce 90+ points. The fact that TK scored more than a point per game last season on this team was to me a much more impressive result than Pastrnak's 60 goals. If I had a choice between the two players, I pick TK every day, all day.

Me too.
- Hextall271

We might see it this year after the deadline if Briere does what he should and trades more veteran players for assets, otherwise I can't see this happening. I think Andrae would benefit from a year in the AHL and so far I think Foerster has not earned a roster spot on this team. Brink has earned a longer look, but as I mentioned his skating is painful to watch and it hurts him especially on the rush, so the Flyers have to really use him the right way.

Konecny is not at the level of McDavid, but trust me, there is nothing that special about Pastrnak. Just ask hockey people in Boston what they think of him, even after he put in 60 goals last season. Lets see how well Pastrnak scores this year with Zacha as his center instead of Bergeron. All I am saying is put Konecny on a line with a real 1C and a good winger an let him play 75+ games in a season, and he can produce 90+ points. The fact that TK scored more than a point per game last season on this team was to me a much more impressive result than Pastrnak's 60 goals. If I had a choice between the two players, I pick TK every day, all day.
- jd250

I love TK and what he brings….but him over Pasta? Really? I’m sure Pasta will sniff 50 again even without Bergeron.

I love TK and what he brings….but him over Pasta? Really? I’m sure Pasta will sniff 50 again even without Bergeron.
- landros 2

I totally understand why you would think that, but the Bruins as a team had the best year of any team in the history of this league last year, every, and I mean everything went right for them in the regular season. But we all saw, and I love writing this, their flaws in the playoffs. I don't mean to imply Pastrnak is not a good player, on the contrary any player that scores 60 in this league is doing something right. But I think the differences between TK and Pastrnak would show themselves in the playoffs which to me is much more important, and for that reason I would choose TK over Pastrnak.

Me too.
- Hextall271

Theres the # game but if this team had the balls that’s exactly the 3 plus Zamula that should make the team. All 4 guys can play at this level and despite the typical placating statement that Briere will surely quote. This should not be the same old same old if the Flyers are actually trying to rebuild this thing. You only need so much “veteran” presence for the younger guys to follow.

I totally understand why you would think that, but the Bruins as a team had the best year of any team in the history of this league last year, every, and I mean everything went right for them in the regular season. But we all saw, and I love writing this, their flaws in the playoffs. I don't mean to imply Pastrnak is not a good player, on the contrary any player that scores 60 in this league is doing something right. But I think the differences between TK and Pastrnak would show themselves in the playoffs which to me is much more important, and for that reason I would choose TK over Pastrnak.
- jd250

Careful….They said that about Steve Yzerman once upon a time. I know what you are saying about mental makeup when it comes to playoffs, but sometimes these guys need a few kicks at the can. Yes there is less ice in the playoffs, but I wouldn’t necessarily write Pasta off as a playoff bust just yet, great players have a way of eventually adapting.

Konecny is not at the level of McDavid, but trust me, there is nothing that special about Pastrnak. Just ask hockey people in Boston what they think of him, even after he put in 60 goals last season. Lets see how well Pastrnak scores this year with Zacha as his center instead of Bergeron. All I am saying is put Konecny on a line with a real 1C and a good winger an let him play 75+ games in a season, and he can produce 90+ points. The fact that TK scored more than a point per game last season on this team was to me a much more impressive result than Pastrnak's 60 goals. If I had a choice between the two players, I pick TK every day, all day.
- jd250

Yes, let's go on the Boston thread and ask the fans there if there is anything special about Pasternak as a player. Let's see what they say. Your comments here reinforce the idea that I have nothing to worry about with your threats to expose me.

I totally understand why you would think that, but the Bruins as a team had the best year of any team in the history of this league last year, every, and I mean everything went right for them in the regular season. But we all saw, and I love writing this, their flaws in the playoffs. I don't mean to imply Pastrnak is not a good player, on the contrary any player that scores 60 in this league is doing something right. But I think the differences between TK and Pastrnak would show themselves in the playoffs which to me is much more important, and for that reason I would choose TK over Pastrnak.
- jd250

What were the flaws that "we all saw" in the playoffs. Pasternak has played 77 playoff games in his career. He has scored 35 goals and 44 assists for 79 points in those playoff games. What factual information can you supply to support your opinion that Konecny would be better?

Do you honestly believe that there is a single hockey exec, analyst, scout or coach that would choose Konecny over Pasternak?

This is just another in a long line of ridiculously absurd opinions offered by you.

Can't a player consistantly score 20 goals a year, and still have inconsistant effort and play game after game? It's a long season, and noone can play at the top level every single shift.