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hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 10 @ 3:30 PM ET
My criticisms are completely valid. If you don't think so, take your shot. Good luck to you.
- MJL

more trolling from the non troller
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 10 @ 3:32 PM ET
Of course it matters. Look at the Flyers record and success level in developing players. Just look at the players that were able to overcome obstacles put in their way of bad development and call it good? Not all players will be able to push through. To be clear, my position Cates is not a criticism of playing him at center. The reasons for playing him at center are very valid. My position is that I think he has a higher upside as a wing.
- MJL

prove the flyers are bad at development. Provide stats and fact to back it up. Surely they are out there?

what is your criteria for defining bad development? step up to plate as you like to say cliff.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Oct 10 @ 3:34 PM ET
So Charlie mentioned on PHLY that the Flyers may be worried about Hart being suspended in early November because of the investigation. He didn't say the Flyers knew anything, just want to point that out.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Oct 10 @ 3:36 PM ET
If Staal plays more than half the games this season then I agree with you. Not sure Andrae or Zamula or any other Phantom is ready to play 82 right now. Hopefully Walker, Staal and Seeler are all moved by the deadline.

Over/under 50.5 games played by Andrae and Zamula?

- mickel25


Combined or each?
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Oct 10 @ 3:48 PM ET
That Sharks roster is rough. Gonna be tough the beat them to the bottom
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 10 @ 4:09 PM ET
So Charlie mentioned on PHLY that the Flyers may be worried about Hart being suspended in early November because of the investigation. He didn't say the Flyers knew anything, just want to point that out.
- WhiskeyMan


Suspended for what, an illegal check to the head?
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Oct 10 @ 4:14 PM ET
That Sharks roster is rough. Gonna be tough the beat them to the bottom
- TobyFlenderson


chicago will give them a run for their money, even with bedard. add anahiem and arizona.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Oct 10 @ 4:21 PM ET
York then came up and hit the ground running. I guess were supposed to pretend that he wasn't ready for the NHL in that in between time?
- MJL


Or we could pretend he had a good camp and deserved to be on the team… but then we’d be pretending.

Stating that I think everyone was mishandled, is nonsense. For example, of the players you named. I have never stated that Tippett or Cates have been mishandled in their development.
- MJL


Never said this. Sounds like a reading comprehension issue on your end

There is no standard applied where every opinion has to be proven. When everyone is held to that high standard. Then you can apply that to me.
- MJL


Have you ever read what you say to others here? 😂 you’re a riot.

I’m ready for the next. Phil Myers… are 3 NHL teams wrong about him and you’re right?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 10 @ 4:22 PM ET
So Charlie mentioned on PHLY that the Flyers may be worried about Hart being suspended in early November because of the investigation. He didn't say the Flyers knew anything, just want to point that out.
- WhiskeyMan


They need to come out with this report and get it over with.
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Oct 10 @ 4:22 PM ET
prove the flyers are bad at development. Provide stats and fact to back it up. Surely they are out there?

what is your criteria for defining bad development? step up to plate as you like to say cliff.

- hello it's me 2050

I don't know, but look at other teams developing first and second round picks. they don't seem to miss on as many players, and their path to the NHL seems quicker. Not every team and player, but the Flyers can't miss on every player they draft....some are highly spoken of by the experts on TSN, etc, yet they seem to stall out and don't seem to have the impact that was expected of them as soon as was expected, if at all. Something seems amiss.
Having Lappy as the AHL coach doesn't help things, and playing different systems between the NHL and AHL teams seems like missed opportunities.
RajaAmpat
Joined: 12.16.2018

Oct 10 @ 4:23 PM ET
Suspended for what, an illegal check to the head?
- Feanor


They are also digging into a 2003 alleged sexual assault by that years WJC Team.

I really hope Hart is cleared. After you see the same scenario repeatedly both in the news with Team Canada and on Law and Order SVU it becomes a strange reality.

2003 Investigation

[https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/team-canada-significant-resources-committed-to-investigation-into-2003-alleged-sexual-assault]
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 10 @ 4:25 PM ET




Never said this. Sounds like a reading comprehension issue on your end




- anti-lame


The only part of your post worth responding to. I now know what you are.

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...p?thread_id=185213&page=6

"Zamula and York seem to be fine. In your opinion everyone has been “mishandled” - you claim they’d be farther along but you can’t prove that."
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Oct 10 @ 4:30 PM ET
The only part of your post worth responding to. I now know what you are.

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...p?thread_id=185213&page=6

"Zamula and York seem to be fine. In your opinion everyone has been “mishandled” - you claim they’d be farther along but you can’t prove that."

- MJL


Any comment on Phil Myers or is that something you wish not to comment on?

Just top notch player evaluations
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Oct 10 @ 4:55 PM ET
I have never stated that Tippett or Cates have been mishandled in their development.
- MJL


So then the team has handled him just fine, getting selke votes and playing above his weight at center?

is there a difference between “mishandled” and “misused” you’d like to elaborate on?

Is it like the difference between a McDouble and a double cheeseburger?

*fun fact the double cheeseburger has 2 slices of cheese, the McDouble has 1
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 10 @ 5:08 PM ET
So then the team has handled him just fine, getting selke votes and playing above his weight at center?

is there a difference between “mishandled” and “misused” you’d like to elaborate on?

Is it like the difference between a McDouble and a double cheeseburger?

*fun fact the double cheeseburger has 2 slices of cheese, the McDouble has 1

- anti-lame

The facts the people need, good to know
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 10 @ 5:24 PM ET
The facts the people need, good to know
- ClaudeFather


That's another Rinaldo Alt account.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Oct 10 @ 5:31 PM ET
That's another Rinaldo Alt account.
- MJL


Lol yeah everyone is just an alt

Any final words on Phil Myers or is this your way on conceding the point by being a coward about it?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 10 @ 6:06 PM ET
I don't know, but look at other teams developing first and second round picks. they don't seem to miss on as many players, and their path to the NHL seems quicker. Not every team and player, but the Flyers can't miss on every player they draft....some are highly spoken of by the experts on TSN, etc, yet they seem to stall out and don't seem to have the impact that was expected of them as soon as was expected, if at all. Something seems amiss.
Having Lappy as the AHL coach doesn't help things, and playing different systems between the NHL and AHL teams seems like missed opportunities.

- TheFreak

Mr Freak I dont disagree. IMO it is more drafting than development.

That is not an endorsement for development. I just want a certain poster to define what he s using as bad development. Then how does it compare to others.

In bold 100%. mind boggling. OR at least have a torts disciple or protege as coach.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 10 @ 6:15 PM ET
That Sharks roster is rough. Gonna be tough the beat them to the bottom
- TobyFlenderson

they'll finish last couture is injured
however, if we made some trades and injuries happen we could be as bad at the sharks will be
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 10 @ 6:15 PM ET
That's another Rinaldo Alt account.
- MJL

This is Joe Carcione your green grocer with your tip for the day
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 10 @ 6:15 PM ET
So Charlie mentioned on PHLY that the Flyers may be worried about Hart being suspended in early November because of the investigation. He didn't say the Flyers knew anything, just want to point that out.
- WhiskeyMan

great hart is going to jail
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 10 @ 6:16 PM ET
So then the team has handled him just fine, getting selke votes and playing above his weight at center?

is there a difference between “mishandled” and “misused” you’d like to elaborate on?

Is it like the difference between a McDouble and a double cheeseburger?

*fun fact the double cheeseburger has 2 slices of cheese, the McDouble has 1

- anti-lame
LMAO! I went there the other day and asked them what the difference was. I don't eat there often, but my inquiring mind wanted to know. I slept better that night knowing that info. So it looks like the four young players that I wanted to stay up with the big team made it! I didn't backread, but guessing there are still lots of things to whine about. Eh what?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 10 @ 6:18 PM ET
LMAO! I went there the other day and asked them what the difference was. I don't eat there often, but my inquiring mind wanted to know. I slept better that night knowing that info. So it looks like the four young players that I wanted to stay up with the big team made it! I didn't backread, but guessing there are still lots of things to whine about. Eh what?
- Phillywhiteout

i thought CEOs don't eat mcdonalds

wait are you trump?
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Oct 10 @ 6:19 PM ET
Apparently Risto could play on Thursday, with the Flyers trying to sneak Sandstrom through waivers first.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Oct 10 @ 6:26 PM ET
Of course it matters. Look at the Flyers record and success level in developing players. Just look at the players that were able to overcome obstacles put in their way of bad development and call it good? Not all players will be able to push through. To be clear, my position Cates is not a criticism of playing him at center. The reasons for playing him at center are very valid. My position is that I think he has a higher upside as a wing.
- MJL

All I know is before Torts got here, many players were regressing, both on the big club and the minors, including your boy Frost. Now Frost is playing very well, Ersson, Tippet and Cates took big leaps forward last season, Brink and Foerster have made the big club and Zamula most likely will be starting for the Flyers. Even Sanheim has realized he Sucks in his own end and put on 16 lbs of muscle in order to compete harder, and lets not forget the Flyers best defenseman last year, my boy Risto!! That is pretty good progress from an antiquated old-school coach and his coaching staff. Again, it goes back to the basic fact that Torts has done many good things for the Flyers at every level since he has arrived.
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