Well Celebrini is good but he’s not looking like a special player like Bedard. He doesn’t have the ability to take the team on his shoulders and will the team to a win. It’s possible he can but I’m seeing a good two way player not an elite generational type player as some analysts were suggesting.
- paulr

Celebrini had 5 points vs Latvia. Haven't checked but I don't think Bedard put up 5 vs the Latvians. If he didn't, you know who the better player is.

My comment about Foligno signing is a retort to the comment that the Hawks are better off with any draft choice instead of resigning. Who cares about f they give up 7 goals a game, Commesso and Gajan will be tending the nets in ??? Seasons.

Again I understand the picks can be packaged, but according to the wrecking ball rebuild bible, that would be blasphemy.
- LAHawk

Actually, KD has said by the odds, only 1st round draft choices matter.

The Petterson rumor doesn't really make sense to me.
The Blackhawks are going to need to dish out more than 10mil a season for him, that would = 3 first round picks.

Probably means 1 top 10 pick (not sure from what draft the Canucks would start getting picks-the Celebrini draft? Or a year later?) if not 2 top 10 picks,depending on how well or bad they play the next few seasons.
I like to think he is worth it,but not sure what Blackhawks mgmt thinks.
Nylander is another story,but I still think the Leafs have enough $$$ to sign him and fill out their roster
- captainserious

Hawks won't be signing either of them. Don't expect either guy to be on a new team next season.

Any idea who suggested that?
- paulr

No, but you hang around here pretty often taking the temperature of the board, correcting those who need it and seem to have taken on the vacant Sage title.

I do know I posted a couple weeks ago Bedard TODAY plays like a jrs player with a world class shot taking 2 minute shifts over and over and over, skates into triple teams and coughs up odd mans over and over and over just like benched jrs players I've seen over he last 15 yrs. ... That his fancies backed that up as he accumulated points.

And I'll be damned since then the kid has had some perfect dumps that have led to Dmen having to turn and make bad plays creating chances. That of course doesn't allow odd mans the other way... Saw him check up instead of skating into a triple team leading to a goal and some chances.... Noticed he's taking shorter shifts leading to the above.

So no, don't know who said Bedard is a jrs player and Fantilli is a better player than hi. ..... Feel free to share.

Sounds like the kinda fella who would greatly benefit from your guidance, Pauly.

I don't get the obsession with Petr Mrazek. The Hawks might need another vet goalie, but it doesn't really matter if it's Mrazek or a different goalie. Mrazek isn't that great. He wasn't even our best goalie last year, Stalock was better. Next year, if they feel they don't have anyone in the system ready to take the role, then they will find someone.

#Blackhawks  morning skate lineup in Dallas:
Foligno-Bedard-Kurashev
Beauvillier-Richardinson-Raddysh
Donato-T. Johnson-Blackwell
Reichel-Guttman-Entwistle

Vlasic-Murphy
Tinordi-Phillips
Korchinski-Zaitsev

Mrazek
Söderblom

Extras: R. Johnson, Crevier

And you watch many of them close, he is engaging on the wall and taking pucks for the set-ups.
(This is what I expected to be seeing from Reichel as a pro but we are still waiting.)

Nazar is fearless and really hockey smart and little time is he thinking, he is doing it fast, whether it generates a look or not, he looks like the goods.
- wiz1901

I expect FN3 to turn pro when his season is over. For the 24/25 season, will he play in Rockford or Chicago? My money is on Chicago.

And you watch many of them close, he is engaging on the wall and taking pucks for the set-ups.
(This is what I expected to be seeing from Reichel as a pro but we are still waiting.)

Nazar is fearless and really hockey smart and little time is he thinking, he is doing it fast, whether it generates a look or not, he looks like the goods.
- wiz1901

Reichel still lacks strength he looks gangly to me.

I don't get the obsession with Petr Mrazek. The Hawks might need another vet goalie, but it doesn't really matter if it's Mrazek or a different goalie. Mrazek isn't that great. He wasn't even our best goalie last year, Stalock was better. Next year, if they feel they don't have anyone in the system ready to take the role, then they will find someone.
- breadbag

Cuz without him the Hawks have maybe 1/2 the wins they have and would have been competitive in even less. Who knows what kinda club they ice next yr but probably safe to say they'll still need many Mrazak type performances.

And count me as one who says all goalies are not created equal in every situation. Two goalies can be equally effective on a 100 pt team but not so on a 70 pt team. We know Mrazak can perform well on a 70 pt team but we don't with a possible replacement.

Gimme the devil I know.

Hawks won't be signing either of them. Don't expect either guy to be on a new team next season.
- breadbag

If the Leafs don’t do much better in the playoffs they will have some big changes happening. There is no way they can overlook an average defense while five players take up over half the cap, again, can they?? If the Leafs don’t well one of their top players will be on a new team.

I will give you plenty to disagree with me about but at least keep it to things I post.

Cause, once again, not a comment made by me.

Not liking a draft choice doesn't mean I don't agree with what he is doing in the big picture. Being a GM isn't a perfect science.
- Elbows15

That's fair, and i wasn't directing that to you.

Some of my posts are over the top, but generally in response to what IMO is a ridiculous post, or call other GM’s stupid because the poster doesn’t agree with the other GM’s moves or methods. So I Will call out what I don’t like what the Hawks GMm is doing.
- LAHawk

What are you friends with all of them or do you agree with all the other GMs and I'm insulting you. Not my intention but i apologize that you get caught up so much in my opinion of what i feel are retread and really bad GMs in this league. Like you i have an opinion and i have a right to share it. If you can't handle it just skip my post.

I expect FN3 to turn pro when his season is over. For the 24/25 season, will he play in Rockford or Chicago? My money is on Chicago.
- DarthKane

I would think that not only does it depend on what he shows in training camp, but also on who KD brings in this offseason. If KD brings in a couple of decent forwards, plus a healthy Hall and AA, then they just might let him marinate in Rockford.

If the Leafs don’t do much better in the playoffs they will have some big changes happening. There is no way they can overlook an average defense while five players take up over half the cap, can they?? If the Leafs don’t well one of their top players will be on a new team.
- paulr

I don't disagree, but I am willing to be it won't be Nylander on the move. I really think they will more readily trade John Tavares then let Nylander walk.

And you watch many of them close, he is engaging on the wall and taking pucks for the set-ups.
(This is what I expected to be seeing from Reichel as a pro but we are still waiting.)

Nazar is fearless and really hockey smart and little time is he thinking, he is doing it fast, whether it generates a look or not, he looks like the goods.
- wiz1901

If he isn't the US best player at 5 v 5, he is pretty close.

Also, killing penalties as is Moore and Hayes. Not really a good showcase for Hayes but its nice he is on the team.

He is a shooter and playing 4th line minutes isn't the best way to showcase his skills, but good on him for accepting a role and doing his best to fill it.

Moore is noticeable on every shift he does manage to get.
Rinzel has been a bit uneven. i think its his first major tourney for Team USA and not all that unexpected. He does have a lot of raw ability and patience will be his friend.

I expect FN3 to turn pro when his season is over. For the 24/25 season, will he play in Rockford or Chicago? My money is on Chicago.
- DarthKane

Maybe to burn a year and give him a taste but camp will determine where he plays next season.

He is another guy who became part of the "leadership" group at the off-ice prospect camp they did in July.

or what Lou said. lol

#Blackhawks  morning skate lineup in Dallas:
Foligno-Bedard-Kurashev
Beauvillier-Richardinson-Raddysh
Donato-T. Johnson-Blackwell
Reichel-Guttman-Entwistle

Vlasic-Murphy
Tinordi-Phillips
Korchinski-Zaitsev

Mrazek
Söderblom

Extras: R. Johnson, Crevier
- Angotti

Rather watch Crevier than Tinordi stumble all the ice. Poor Phillips. Guy was a man against a storm on Wednesday

Rather watch Crevier than Tinordi stumble all the ice. Poor Phillips. Guy was a man against a storm on Wednesday
- Elbows15

I know you’re not a Korchinski fan but he along with Phillips, Crevier and the best of the bunch Vlasic are a really good crop of rookie defensemen. And more are on the way. I’ve said it a few times but KD is going to have to make some real big decisions.

#Blackhawks  morning skate lineup in Dallas:
Foligno-Bedard-Kurashev
Beauvillier-Richardinson-Raddysh
Donato-T. Johnson-Blackwell
Reichel-Guttman-Entwistle

Vlasic-Murphy
Tinordi-Phillips
Korchinski-Zaitsev

Mrazek
Söderblom

Extras: R. Johnson, Crevier
- Angotti

I think Powers tweeted that 98/17/23 line has been getting killed sinc being put together.
I donno why LR is pushing it.

Anyone antagonized even a bit that Reichel is LR's whipping boy?
I think if you had Reichel with 98 for 7-10 games you'd see him slowly be a difference maker

Rather watch Crevier than Tinordi stumble all the ice. Poor Phillips. Guy was a man against a storm on Wednesday
- Elbows15

Yep me too, but i think this will be Tinordis last season, so something to look forward to

Lindstrom isn’t my guy, I just saw his draft ranking skyrocket and mentioned it. The fact that he’s such a great skater, has lots of skill and plays a heavy game doesn’t hurt. I trust whoever KFC deems the best player when his turn comes up. As HawkintheD said the media just uses the term generational more as hyperbole than anything else. Unfortunately Celebrini appears to have got caught up in the hyperbole machine. But watching him, he turns in an honest effort and doesn’t cheat but he doesn’t appear to be a game changer the way Bedard showed the last two WJC’s and so far in his NHL career.
- paulr

Well, he’s becoming my guy. I’ve been watching some clips since you brought him up and I like what I see, he can skate, good hands, and size. Let’s see what KD has up his sleeve on draft day.

I expect FN3 to turn pro when his season is over. For the 24/25 season, will he play in Rockford or Chicago? My money is on Chicago.
- DarthKane

If he turns pro, wouldn't be surprised if he arranges to burn the first year of his ELC late this season. So his, CB's and KK's ELCs would all expire at the same time.

Well, he’s becoming my guy. I’ve been watching some clips since you brought him up and I like what I see, he can skate, good hands, and size. Let’s see what KD has up his sleeve on draft day.
- Angotti

He’s sure rising up on the draft listing.

So everyone says we have enough draft picks, so let's see

Based on Dobbers research
Bedard 100% hockey player
Top 5 pick in the summer 100%
Probably another top 5 pick the next year
So 3 players

Top 6 or top 4 D

Korchinski and Nazar have a chance at 75%, TB pick between these.
Rinzel 65%, Toronto probably late so 3 NHL players

2nd round picks 35%
Kantserov
Misiak
Ludwinski
Greene
Gajan? Don't know if you include him
8 future 2nd rounders,
So 4 NHL players

3rd round picks 25%
Hayes
Savoie
Thompson
Lardis
Felcman
4 more third rounders
So 2 more NHL players

Their might be 1 or 2 surprises but probably that's it.

So 14 players plus Vlasic, Seth Jones, Phillips, Ethan Allan at the rock, Reichel? D!ckinson, Raddysh who actually played well the other night.

So maybe you guys are right maybe we don't need anymore draft picks.

I have to say though it'll be hard for KD to turn down a 1st round pick for Mrazek but then again i don't think anyone will offer it.

I do have a serious question though, how was KD supposed to rebuild when we were pressed against the cap, traded away 2 first round draft picks and no talent in the farm system other than Reichel, Vlasic, Phillips, and Ethan Allan who are or were only prospects?