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paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Dec 29 @ 6:54 PM ET
I do have a serious question though, how was KD supposed to rebuild when we were pressed against the cap, traded away 2 first round draft picks and no talent in the farm system other than Reichel, Vlasic, Phillips, and Ethan Allan who are or were only prospects?
- BetweenTheDots

Easy! Trade Hagel for two first round picks and two journeymen forwards. Trade away his top players at the draft for two first round picks. Use cap space in trade for other teams to move players. Tell Kane and Toews their services are no longer required. Don’t try to make the team better for two seasons and piss off a few fans while doing so. Am I missing anything?
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Dec 29 @ 7:04 PM ET
I do have a serious question though, how was KD supposed to rebuild when we were pressed against the cap, traded away 2 first round draft picks and no talent in the farm system other than Reichel, Vlasic, Phillips, and Ethan Allan who are or were only prospects?
- BetweenTheDots


He regrets he has but one life to give for his hockey team.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Dec 29 @ 7:06 PM ET
Easy! Trade Hagel for two first round picks and two journeymen forwards. Trade away his top players at the draft for two first round picks. Use cap space in trade for other teams to move players. Tell Kane and Toews their services are no longer required. Don’t try to make the team better for two seasons and piss off a few fans while doing so. Am I missing anything?
- paulr


The 5 years are going to suck, for sure. Last weekend i smoked a brisket, i have a side smoker used charcoal and hickory wood, i smoked it all day, wrapped in butcher paper in the evening put it in the oven until it reached a certain temp. Then i set the oven to 160 and let it cool slowly for 12 hours. Wrapped it in a towel put it in a cooler and served it the evening for dinner. It's the best brisket I've ever had until i have the next one. My point is you have to have patience in a rebuild its the only way it works. If you rush it, cough cough Ottawa you can really screw yourself.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Dec 29 @ 7:09 PM ET
That is not a secret

But I am not against them signing Foligno for next year. He serves a purpose. hopefully they do not sign another Perry.

I am also for them signing Mrazek instead of getting a draft choice around #50. Hawks do not have anyone to replace him, unless you think Soderblom can put it together.

I don't see either of the above blocking anyone that deserves by their play of being on the roster.

- LAHawk


I agree with all this. I hate that everyone tries to bundle the rebuild into absolutes, be flexible, be smart, always be improving from this point on is how I would try and define it

Soderblom should be back in the minors, this isn't the place to work on your game, and his game needs lots of work
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Dec 29 @ 7:17 PM ET
The 5 years are going to suck, for sure. Last weekend i smoked a brisket, i have a side smoker used charcoal and hickory wood, i smoked it all day, wrapped in butcher paper in the evening put it in the oven until it reached a certain temp. Then i set the oven to 160 and let it cool slowly for 12 hours. Wrapped it in a towel put it in a cooler and served it the evening for dinner. It's the best brisket I've ever had until i have the next one. My point is you have to have patience in a rebuild its the only way it works. If you rush it, cough cough Ottawa you can really screw yourself.
- BetweenTheDots

I’m putting a brisket on the Egg tonight at 11:00. It’ll probably be ready by mid afternoon then rest it for three or four hours. Smoking a brisket is tricky, but no where near as tricky as trying to figure out all the moving pieces KFC has to deal with.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Dec 29 @ 7:18 PM ET
I don't get the obsession with Petr Mrazek. The Hawks might need another vet goalie, but it doesn't really matter if it's Mrazek or a different goalie. Mrazek isn't that great. He wasn't even our best goalie last year, Stalock was better. Next year, if they feel they don't have anyone in the system ready to take the role, then they will find someone.
- breadbag


All some of us are saying is don't end up with two Soderbloms, it doesn't help the move forward.

Pretty hard to argue with Mrazek's play this year, not sure why its such a big deal for some to resign him to a 2 yr contract
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Dec 29 @ 7:19 PM ET
I’m putting a brisket on the Egg tonight at 11:00. It’ll probably be ready by mid afternoon then rest it for three or four hours. Smoking a brisket is tricky, but no where near as tricky as trying to figure out all the moving pieces KFC has to deal with.
- paulr


Sure but the point is if you try to rush a brisket its going to taste like poop.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Dec 29 @ 7:19 PM ET
I don't disagree, but I am willing to be it won't be Nylander on the move. I really think they will more readily trade John Tavares then let Nylander walk.
- breadbag


Who is trading for Tavares and that contract
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Dec 29 @ 7:20 PM ET
#Blackhawks  morning skate lineup in Dallas:
Foligno-Bedard-Kurashev
Beauvillier-Richardinson-Raddysh
Donato-T. Johnson-Blackwell
Reichel-Guttman-Entwistle

Vlasic-Murphy
Tinordi-Phillips
Korchinski-Zaitsev

Mrazek
Söderblom

Extras: R. Johnson, Crevier

- Angotti


Tinordi in over Crevier is just bizarre to me
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Dec 29 @ 7:21 PM ET
If the Leafs don’t do much better in the playoffs they will have some big changes happening. There is no way they can overlook an average defense while five players take up over half the cap, again, can they?? If the Leafs don’t well one of their top players will be on a new team.
- paulr


That's been the narrative for 3 years now, what makes you think that will happen this time. Issue is the one guy they want to get rid of, Tavares, they can't.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Dec 29 @ 7:21 PM ET
Who is trading for Tavares and that contract

- vabeachbear


Only one more year on that deal, wouldn't be too hard.
35Tony0
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Springfield, IL
Joined: 05.10.2015

Dec 29 @ 7:21 PM ET
Outside the playoffs, I do not recall the 'Hawks playing the same team twice in a row, both on the road or both at home.
Schedule anomaly, I guess...
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Dec 29 @ 7:27 PM ET
Only one more year on that deal, wouldn't be too hard.
- breadbag


Its 11 mil right? he has no trade rights?
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Dec 29 @ 7:29 PM ET
Only one more year on that deal, wouldn't be too hard.
- breadbag

The NMC says otherwise.
TheDrumonMadison
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.20.2019

Dec 29 @ 7:46 PM ET
Expecting a good game from KK tonight.
This team is getting fun again, hopefully they can keep it up. But a top3 pick this year would be just what we need to build from moving forward with trades and other transactions.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Dec 29 @ 7:50 PM ET
The NMC says otherwise.
- paulr

That’s one of the two issues for sure. I’m not a Tavares fan, he puts up points and is good at the dot, sucks at everything else. TBH, if it wasn’t for the NMC, I’d take him for a year, but the Leafs would have to add, no easy out.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Dec 29 @ 7:52 PM ET
Its 11 mil right? he has no trade rights?
- vabeachbear


Yeah, but it's doable. We've seen players with NMC moved before. Maybe it doesn't work out, but I bet they will move him or something else before Nylander. I wouldn't count on getting a chance to sign Nylander in Chicago.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Dec 29 @ 7:55 PM ET
Outside the playoffs, I do not recall the 'Hawks playing the same team twice in a row, both on the road or both at home.
Schedule anomaly, I guess...

- 35Tony0


Yeah that's rare. Usually a Home and Home series where each team hosts one. I can't remember a double road game against the same team.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Dec 29 @ 7:57 PM ET
Outside the playoffs, I do not recall the 'Hawks playing the same team twice in a row, both on the road or both at home.
Schedule anomaly, I guess...

- 35Tony0


During the post covid season when all games were played within the division, I believe there were some consecutive road games against the same team.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Dec 29 @ 8:12 PM ET
I thought Crevier wasn't playing? He's 46 right
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Dec 29 @ 8:26 PM ET
Unnecessary stupid penalty.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Dec 29 @ 8:27 PM ET
I thought Crevier wasn't playing? He's 46 right
- BetweenTheDots

Looks like Zaitsev is out.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Dec 29 @ 8:27 PM ET
I thought Crevier wasn't playing? He's 46 right
- BetweenTheDots


So far i've seen Vlasic, murphy, phillips, crevier, tinordi (or course with the penalty) and I think KK
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Dec 29 @ 8:28 PM ET
Unnecessary stupid penalty.
- Angotti


What was he doing on that shift?
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Dec 29 @ 8:28 PM ET
Great setup by 27
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