LAHawk
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I don't think Bedard will be suspended for gambling like Shane was?
Was it Nylander who was going to sit out the season and the Leafs panicked? - BetweenTheDots
Yes Nylander
I would think if a benching became an issue, Richardson would be gone before Bedard. Bedard sells more jerseys |
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LAHawk
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Joined: 11.02.2017
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Ben Pope
@BenPopeCST
Blackhawks lines in practice in Nashville:
Beauvillier-Bedard-Kurashev
Foligno-Richardinson-Blackwell
Reichel-Entwistle-Guttman
Donato-Seney-RJohnson
Katchouk
Vlasic-Crevier
Tinordi-Murphy
Korchinski-Zaitsev
Phillips
I know Phillips didn’t have a good game (who did ?), but sitting Phillips for Tinordi, Zaitsev is baffling. So much for developing the youngsters.
LR playing roulette with the lines now, Bouvillier back on Bedard’s line, Donato back to the 4th line, Oy that it matters with the Drek the Hawks have healthy to play at forward now. |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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A seat at the end of the bench during a power play or two will do wonders to correct some things. And if it doesn’t missing a period or if needed a game will get his attention. - paulr
I wouldn't even care if it was a mistake or whatever but it was not a good look on him and foligno when they showed view of the whole ice on replay and Suter was behind both of them and beat their asses up ice. Neither even put any effort into trying to catch him |
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mohel
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Location: IL Joined: 02.08.2013
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Ben Pope
@BenPopeCST
Blackhawks lines in practice in Nashville:
Beauvillier-Bedard-Kurashev
Foligno-Richardinson-Blackwell
Reichel-Entwistle-Guttman
Donato-Seney-RJohnson
Katchouk
Vlasic-Crevier
Tinordi-Murphy
Korchinski-Zaitsev
Phillips
I know Phillips didn’t have a good game (who did ?), but sitting Phillips for Tinordi, Zaitsev is baffling. So much for developing the youngsters.
LR playing roulette with the lines now, Bouvillier back on Bedard’s line, Donato back to the 4th line, Oy that it matters with the Drek the Hawks have healthy to play at forward now. - LAHawk
Imo, developing the young defensemen involves sitting them sometimes. |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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/small sample size and all that. it is only for Nazar performance at the WJC and only indicative of just that but its a damn good performance
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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Ben Pope
@BenPopeCST
Blackhawks lines in practice in Nashville:
Beauvillier-Bedard-Kurashev
Foligno-Richardinson-Blackwell
Reichel-Entwistle-Guttman
Donato-Seney-RJohnson
Katchouk
Vlasic-Crevier
Tinordi-Murphy
Korchinski-Zaitsev
Phillips
I know Phillips didn’t have a good game (who did ?), but sitting Phillips for Tinordi, Zaitsev is baffling. So much for developing the youngsters.
LR playing roulette with the lines now, Bouvillier back on Bedard’s line, Donato back to the 4th line, Oy that it matters with the Drek the Hawks have healthy to play at forward now. - LAHawk
Think of how he feel to fill out that line-up card.
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LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Joined: 11.02.2017
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Imo, developing the young defensemen involves sitting them sometimes. - mohel
He only sits Phillips |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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He only sits Phillips - LAHawk
Maybe he is trying to develop Tinordi. He still has less than 200 NHL games on his resume |
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Chunk
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Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL Joined: 11.06.2015
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I don't think Bedard will be suspended for gambling like Shane was?
Was it Nylander who was going to sit out the season and the Leafs panicked? - BetweenTheDots
They were at a stalemate with Pinto before the suspension. |
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Chunk
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Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL Joined: 11.06.2015
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He only sits Phillips - LAHawk
I think we’ve found the next D prospect to be traded (aka the next Ian Mitchell). They basically treated him the exact same way. |
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jhawk59
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Joined: 02.15.2013
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I think we’ve found the next D prospect to be traded (aka the next Ian Mitchell). They basically treated him the exact same way. - Chunk
Too soon to put a lot of stock behind your assertion
But I see your connection
Challenging for Phillips |
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paulr
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: YYZ Joined: 06.26.2011
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Mr Ricochet
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Location: Joliet, IL Joined: 04.19.2009
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Thats years of his junior hockey ways that needs to be corrected. He is an O-zone player only right now and pretty much a liability elsewhere without the puck. Tortorella would blow several gaskets in short order watching this crap.
But there's no expectation for winning anything and no real pressure, so accumulating points and putting on a show is all there is.
Adding some real hockey players next year and creating a base level of expectation for winning games can't come soon enough. - RickJ
Oh no, the keeper of the board don't dig it when you use The Phenom and jrs in the same sentence. ........ You say Bedard needs to correct his jr hockey ways I SAID he's a jrs hockey player with a world class shot playing in the NHL, TODAY. Semantics, but yours is a much kinder description.
And where Bedard is at is ok as painful as parts of his game can look as he figures out he NHL. Yes, Fantilli and Carlsson both have a more rounded game but that's their game, 2 way players. Bedard never was that, and was never asked it seems, so like any kid/prospect, just like in jrs, the expectation (requirement) is to develop and IMO as bad as the kid can look without the puck outside the Ozone at times he has taken positive steps in the last 5ish games.
My eye says he's cognizant of taking shorter shifts acknowledging it's still a work in progress. I think last game was the first I saw him skate into a triple team in 5ish games. Kid is checking up, finding trailers (who didn't fly the zone like he did) or executing beautiful dumps away from the goalie. ...... That's all new, and no, it ain't gonna make him a 2 way player today but it makes him a better one and that's what developing looks like. Keep building on small improvements. ........ I'm sure I'm not saying anything you don't know, or are saying, Rick, just adding some context to what I've found following jrs closely.
He'll learn. Even a player as talented as Bedard is you do not win in the NHL outscoring your weaknesses on a team this devoid of talent........ Guys like Datsyuk and Toews would have added 20ish more pts per yr, Datsyuk even more, if they weren't world class 2 way players that won cups... Let's see what Bedard wants to be cuz IMO there ain't nothing the kid can't do and that includes playing reasonable 2 way hockey.
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Mr Ricochet
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Location: Joliet, IL Joined: 04.19.2009
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Ben Pope
@BenPopeCST
Blackhawks lines in practice in Nashville:
Beauvillier-Bedard-Kurashev
Foligno-Richardinson-Blackwell
Reichel-Entwistle-Guttman
Donato-Seney-RJohnson
Katchouk
Vlasic-Crevier
Tinordi-Murphy
Korchinski-Zaitsev
Phillips
I know Phillips didn’t have a good game (who did ?), but sitting Phillips for Tinordi, Zaitsev is baffling. So much for developing the youngsters.
LR playing roulette with the lines now, Bouvillier back on Bedard’s line, Donato back to the 4th line, Oy that it matters with the Drek the Hawks have healthy to play at forward now. - LAHawk
I'm ok with sitting Phillips as long as he's told it ain't a punishment for last game and that his play has been escellent. With Jones and Vlasic out he's been leading the Dmen in TOI and that's against top lines.. No rookie Dman should be put in that situation but the kid has and done a fantastic job.
And yea man, looks like LR is a bonifide line blender guy. There's no magic bullet with this group so it'd be nice to see if anything gels over a 5 game period.
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Angotti
Season Ticket Holder Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: IL Joined: 07.03.2019
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Here’s Angotti’s guy!
https://youtu.be/FA5Mfmt6hpg?si=acPIDWNBVUn1YYVx - paulr
I thought he was your guy… I’ll take him, he would look good on Bedard’s left side for now. Size, speed, and hands, what’s not to like? If Celebrini is there you take him, if not, you take Cayden Lindstrom. |
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Angotti
Season Ticket Holder Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: IL Joined: 07.03.2019
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I'm ok with sitting Phillips as long as he's told it ain't a punishment for last game and that his play has been escellent. With Jones and Vlasic out he's been leading the Dmen in TOI and that's against top lines.. No rookie Dman should be put in that situation but the kid has and done a fantastic job.
And yea man, looks like LR is a bonifide line blender guy. There's no magic bullet with this group so it'd be nice to see if anything gels over a 5 game period. - Mr Ricochet
I like Phillips, but he’s still work in progress. Out of all the defensive prospects, only Vlasic is NHL caliber currently, the rest still need some work, but they should have a real good 1-6 in a couple of years. I like the kudos that Rinzel got for his defensive work the other day, if he pans out, then the Hawks won’t have to scramble to find a RD and they can focus on scoring help upfront. In the mean time it’s going to be ugly before the storm. |
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paulr
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Location: YYZ Joined: 06.26.2011
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I thought he was your guy… I’ll take him, he would look good on Bedard’s left side for now. Size, speed, and hands, what’s not to like? If Celebrini is there you take him, if not, you take Cayden Lindstrom. - Angotti
Before the tournament began there was talk that Celebrini was a better player than Bedard not only because he played a better two way game but because he was close offensively. Celebrini is a decent enough player but it’s clear he’s not in the same stratosphere. Last year Bedard put the Canadian team on his back and completely dominated the tournament in two cases winning games on his own. Celebrini is a nice player but he’s no where near as dominating or dynamic.
Lindstrom started the draft rankings in the high teens. He’s been flying up the rankings and in some lists he’s top five. Before it’s over he could very well be challenging in the top three. It’s up to scouts to project who will be the best pro player. The Hawks are getting a good player in the draft I want them to draft the best available, but I like a lot of what I’ve seen of Lindstrom.
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Mr Ricochet
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Location: Joliet, IL Joined: 04.19.2009
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I thought he was your guy… I’ll take him, he would look good on Bedard’s left side for now. Size, speed, and hands, what’s not to like? If Celebrini is there you take him, if not, you take Cayden Lindstrom. - Angotti
My first look at Lindstrom, and it's only highlights, but wow, just wow. First thought is do not over think this. Tiny sample size but I see a beast who can really skate. Shows explosion and really quick hands. ...... I'm watching and thinking Byfield but he has explosion in his feet that Byfield does not.
One guy compared him to Krieder. The highlights agree.. McKeens has him at #3.... Time for me to hunt Medicine Hat games.
Edit: Why ain't he on the WJC squad? |
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Mr Ricochet
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Location: Joliet, IL Joined: 04.19.2009
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I like Phillips, but he’s still work in progress. Out of all the defensive prospects, only Vlasic is NHL caliber currently, the rest still need some work, but they should have a real good 1-6 in a couple of years. I like the kudos that Rinzel got for his defensive work the other day, if he pans out, then the Hawks won’t have to scramble to find a RD and they can focus on scoring help upfront. In the mean time it’s going to be ugly before the storm. - Angotti
I didn't hear the favorable talk of Rinzel's D work but am assuming it was Button who does the US games.. .. I'm not a fan of his evaluating. I've seen 2 MN games and no doubt to me he still has a long way to go on the D side of the puck but IMO there is improvement over his USHL play.
On the #1 ranked NCAA squad Rinzel, a 20 yr old freshman, runs the #1 PP. A lot to like IMO but his defense is still an ongoing process.
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Chunk
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Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL Joined: 11.06.2015
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I didn't hear the favorable talk of Rinzel's D work but am assuming it was Button who does the US games.. .. I'm not a fan of his evaluating. I've seen 2 MN games and no doubt to me he still has a long way to go on the D side of the puck but IMO there is improvement over his USHL play.
On the #1 ranked NCAA squad Rinzel, a 20 yr old freshman, runs the #1 PP. A lot to like IMO but his defense is still an ongoing process. - Mr Ricochet
I think someone mentioned that it was the Slovak announcers that mentioned Rinzel's D work? |
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LFS
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Joined: 02.08.2021
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I'm ok with sitting Phillips as long as he's told it ain't a punishment for last game and that his play has been escellent. With Jones and Vlasic out he's been leading the Dmen in TOI and that's against top lines.. No rookie Dman should be put in that situation but the kid has and done a fantastic job.
And yea man, looks like LR is a bonifide line blender guy. There's no magic bullet with this group so it'd be nice to see if anything gels over a 5 game period. - Mr Ricochet
Not fantastic, but decent. |
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Chunk
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Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL Joined: 11.06.2015
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paulr
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Location: YYZ Joined: 06.26.2011
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https://chicago.suntimes.com/blackhawks/2024/1/1/24021176/blackhawks-prospects-paul-ludwinski-kingston-frontenacs-patrick-kane
Nice to see Ludwinski finding his game. - Chunk
I’ll be seeing him on the 12th and 14th and I’ll see Misiak on the 26th. |
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Chunk
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Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL Joined: 11.06.2015
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I’ll be seeing him on the 12th and 14th and I’ll see Misiak on the 26th. - paulr
I'm really interested to see what Misiak becomes. |
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paulr
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Location: YYZ Joined: 06.26.2011
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I'm really interested to see what Misiak becomes. - Chunk
From the scouting reports he’s a goal scoring winger but he’s not very physical. Unfortunately one game live doesn’t tell me much. I saw Lardis twice this year and neither time he looked great although his speed was incredible and he has a quick release and good shot. I’ve seen Ludwinski before, what he brought when I saw him was roll up his sleeves, nose over the puck hard work. |
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