jhawk59
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Tonight the Leafs beat the Ducks 2-1 in OT. The Leafs outshot them 57-28.
Martin Jones is really dialed in for the Leafs right now. I don't think they are looking for goalie help at the moment. - breadbag
Will Leafs be dialed in post season?
Oh outshot badly and who got 3rd star of game?Loosing team dmen. Really. It is Drysdale |
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mohel
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Location: IL Joined: 02.08.2013
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[quote=jhawk59]Will Leafs be dialed in post season?
Oh outshot badly and who got 3rd star of game?Loosing team dmen. Really. It is Drysdale
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wizardofi
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Location: Maple Ridge, BC Joined: 04.17.2011
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Depends on the definition of 'weight room'. - SC116
Kessel is one of those naturally strong people, like Bo Jackson. Teammates would bug him about not working out but when he did use the weights, he would constantly outlift them. |
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With all the vets on IR, all we have to look forward to is the draft and free agency. It’s really crazy how all of these guys are getting hurt. Also odd that they claimed a defenseman today off waivers, there must be something brewing. - Angotti
A preemptive strike by KD for the eventual Tinordi injury.
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I bet they wouldn't mind Josh Bailey back right about now... - Chunk
He would be on IR by now also. |
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Chunk
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Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL Joined: 11.06.2015
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He would be on IR by now also. - boilermaker100
Well yeah, but he'd at least buy them a game or two. |
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LAHawk
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Anyone see Powers article in the Athletic about what Davidson is thinking? I will sum it up for you, expect the same poop show next year. |
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Anyone see Powers article in the Athletic about what Davidson is thinking? I will sum it up for you, expect the same poop show next year. - LAHawk
Yeah, here's an excerpt from Powers' story. Looks like tinkering around the edges.
So, what does that mean? From what I’m hearing, the Blackhawks probably aren’t going to be players for the biggest free agents next offseason. If you were dreaming of someone like William Nylander, you’re probably going to be disappointed.
The Blackhawks will have the luxury of cap space again. If someone wants to get paid more than market worth on a short-term deal, the Blackhawks would be happy to open their checkbook. It’s just not likely to happen on a long-term deal.
That may frustrate some fans, but the Blackhawks still don’t know what they exactly have in their pipeline, and Davidson isn’t likely to accelerate the rebuild until he has a better idea. They don’t want to pay a veteran for the next eight years with the money they may need for their current young players.
Bedard and Kevin Korchinski are in line for long-term deals when their contracts expire after the 2025-26 season. Frank Nazar could turn pro after his college season, burn the first year of his entry-level contract and be on the same timeline as Bedard and Korchinski. Nazar has followed up a positive first half of a season at Michigan with a positive World Junior Championship. If the Blackhawks win the lottery again and draft Macklin Celebrini, he’d be in the NHL next season and be due another contract after the 2026-27 season. And if it’s not Celebrini, you would assume whoever the Blackhawks draft in June will be in the NHL within a year or two. More Blackhawks prospects who were drafted in the first few rounds are on their way, too. Plus, Seth Jones’ contract remains in place until 2030. As much cap space as the Blackhawks possess now, that won’t always be the case.
The Blackhawks aren’t always going to be in rebuild mode, but Davidson is sticking to his plan. They want to build from within before they determine what they need from outside.
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paulr
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Yeah, here's an excerpt from Powers' story. Looks like tinkering around the edges.
So, what does that mean? From what I’m hearing, the Blackhawks probably aren’t going to be players for the biggest free agents next offseason. If you were dreaming of someone like William Nylander, you’re probably going to be disappointed.
The Blackhawks will have the luxury of cap space again. If someone wants to get paid more than market worth on a short-term deal, the Blackhawks would be happy to open their checkbook. It’s just not likely to happen on a long-term deal.
That may frustrate some fans, but the Blackhawks still don’t know what they exactly have in their pipeline, and Davidson isn’t likely to accelerate the rebuild until he has a better idea. They don’t want to pay a veteran for the next eight years with the money they may need for their current young players.
Bedard and Kevin Korchinski are in line for long-term deals when their contracts expire after the 2025-26 season. Frank Nazar could turn pro after his college season, burn the first year of his entry-level contract and be on the same timeline as Bedard and Korchinski. Nazar has followed up a positive first half of a season at Michigan with a positive World Junior Championship. If the Blackhawks win the lottery again and draft Macklin Celebrini, he’d be in the NHL next season and be due another contract after the 2026-27 season. And if it’s not Celebrini, you would assume whoever the Blackhawks draft in June will be in the NHL within a year or two. More Blackhawks prospects who were drafted in the first few rounds are on their way, too. Plus, Seth Jones’ contract remains in place until 2030. As much cap space as the Blackhawks possess now, that won’t always be the case.
The Blackhawks aren’t always going to be in rebuild mode, but Davidson is sticking to his plan. They want to build from within before they determine what they need from outside.
- boilermaker100
I believe this is the right way to build the Hawks, however there’s no reason why KFC can’t go after the best three or four free agents over the summer to make the team not suck on the ice next season. Overpay the UFAs on short term deals and they’ll be finishing their contracts or be gone as the prospects are beginning their careers.
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rpeters01
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Yeah, here's an excerpt from Powers' story. Looks like tinkering around the edges.
So, what does that mean? From what I’m hearing, the Blackhawks probably aren’t going to be players for the biggest free agents next offseason. If you were dreaming of someone like William Nylander, you’re probably going to be disappointed.
The Blackhawks will have the luxury of cap space again. If someone wants to get paid more than market worth on a short-term deal, the Blackhawks would be happy to open their checkbook. It’s just not likely to happen on a long-term deal.
That may frustrate some fans, but the Blackhawks still don’t know what they exactly have in their pipeline, and Davidson isn’t likely to accelerate the rebuild until he has a better idea. They don’t want to pay a veteran for the next eight years with the money they may need for their current young players.
Bedard and Kevin Korchinski are in line for long-term deals when their contracts expire after the 2025-26 season. Frank Nazar could turn pro after his college season, burn the first year of his entry-level contract and be on the same timeline as Bedard and Korchinski. Nazar has followed up a positive first half of a season at Michigan with a positive World Junior Championship. If the Blackhawks win the lottery again and draft Macklin Celebrini, he’d be in the NHL next season and be due another contract after the 2026-27 season. And if it’s not Celebrini, you would assume whoever the Blackhawks draft in June will be in the NHL within a year or two. More Blackhawks prospects who were drafted in the first few rounds are on their way, too. Plus, Seth Jones’ contract remains in place until 2030. As much cap space as the Blackhawks possess now, that won’t always be the case.
The Blackhawks aren’t always going to be in rebuild mode, but Davidson is sticking to his plan. They want to build from within before they determine what they need from outside.
- boilermaker100
Vlasic's next contract could be something x $6M. |
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Yeah, here's an excerpt from Powers' story. Looks like tinkering around the edges.
So, what does that mean? From what I’m hearing, the Blackhawks probably aren’t going to be players for the biggest free agents next offseason. If you were dreaming of someone like William Nylander, you’re probably going to be disappointed.
The Blackhawks will have the luxury of cap space again. If someone wants to get paid more than market worth on a short-term deal, the Blackhawks would be happy to open their checkbook. It’s just not likely to happen on a long-term deal.
That may frustrate some fans, but the Blackhawks still don’t know what they exactly have in their pipeline, and Davidson isn’t likely to accelerate the rebuild until he has a better idea. They don’t want to pay a veteran for the next eight years with the money they may need for their current young players.
Bedard and Kevin Korchinski are in line for long-term deals when their contracts expire after the 2025-26 season. Frank Nazar could turn pro after his college season, burn the first year of his entry-level contract and be on the same timeline as Bedard and Korchinski. Nazar has followed up a positive first half of a season at Michigan with a positive World Junior Championship. If the Blackhawks win the lottery again and draft Macklin Celebrini, he’d be in the NHL next season and be due another contract after the 2026-27 season. And if it’s not Celebrini, you would assume whoever the Blackhawks draft in June will be in the NHL within a year or two. More Blackhawks prospects who were drafted in the first few rounds are on their way, too. Plus, Seth Jones’ contract remains in place until 2030. As much cap space as the Blackhawks possess now, that won’t always be the case.
The Blackhawks aren’t always going to be in rebuild mode, but Davidson is sticking to his plan. They want to build from within before they determine what they need from outside.
- boilermaker100
its the right move for sustained Long Term success. The orgs that rush the rebuild often max out w/o getting to the top of the mountain. Vosters is included in this. In 3 yrs, he will be GONE
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mohel
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Anyone see Powers article in the Athletic about what Davidson is thinking? I will sum it up for you, expect the same poop show next year. - LAHawk
No poop. He's been saying this all along. |
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paulr
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No poop. He's been saying this all along. - mohel
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mohel
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I believe this is the right way to build the Hawks, however there’s no reason why KFC can’t go after the best three or four free agents over the summer to make the team not suck on the ice next season. Overpay the UFAs on short term deals and they’ll be finishing their contracts or be gone as the prospects are year. their careers. - paulr
The best UFA's are unlikely going to go for short term deals. I assume he'll do the same type of moves as last year. Hopefully more of the vets can play most of the year; this might make it easier for some to tolerate the suckage. |
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mohel
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- paulr
Is that a nose? |
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Chunk
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Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL Joined: 11.06.2015
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I believe this is the right way to build the Hawks, however there’s no reason why KFC can’t go after the best three or four free agents over the summer to make the team not suck on the ice next season. Overpay the UFAs on short term deals and they’ll be finishing their contracts or be gone as the prospects are beginning their careers. - paulr
Would the best three or four FA's be willing to take short term deals? Don't they normally max out the term? Unless you are looking at more mid-30's type guys. I guess it depends on the type of players you are looking for.
I don't think Nylander will even get to FA.
Guentzel
Marchessault
Stephenson
Stamkos
Reinhart
Toffoli
Duchene
Tarasenko
JvR
Lindholm
Sprong
Teravianen
Domi
Monahan
Sprong is 27, everyone else is 29 and older. I guess there are a few on this list that could work, but you have to wonder if other teams will be willing to offer more years, especially with the cap going up.
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Chunk
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Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL Joined: 11.06.2015
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Yeah, here's an excerpt from Powers' story. Looks like tinkering around the edges.
So, what does that mean? From what I’m hearing, the Blackhawks probably aren’t going to be players for the biggest free agents next offseason. If you were dreaming of someone like William Nylander, you’re probably going to be disappointed.
The Blackhawks will have the luxury of cap space again. If someone wants to get paid more than market worth on a short-term deal, the Blackhawks would be happy to open their checkbook. It’s just not likely to happen on a long-term deal.
That may frustrate some fans, but the Blackhawks still don’t know what they exactly have in their pipeline, and Davidson isn’t likely to accelerate the rebuild until he has a better idea. They don’t want to pay a veteran for the next eight years with the money they may need for their current young players.
Bedard and Kevin Korchinski are in line for long-term deals when their contracts expire after the 2025-26 season. Frank Nazar could turn pro after his college season, burn the first year of his entry-level contract and be on the same timeline as Bedard and Korchinski. Nazar has followed up a positive first half of a season at Michigan with a positive World Junior Championship. If the Blackhawks win the lottery again and draft Macklin Celebrini, he’d be in the NHL next season and be due another contract after the 2026-27 season. And if it’s not Celebrini, you would assume whoever the Blackhawks draft in June will be in the NHL within a year or two. More Blackhawks prospects who were drafted in the first few rounds are on their way, too. Plus, Seth Jones’ contract remains in place until 2030. As much cap space as the Blackhawks possess now, that won’t always be the case.
The Blackhawks aren’t always going to be in rebuild mode, but Davidson is sticking to his plan. They want to build from within before they determine what they need from outside.
- boilermaker100
To be fair, they also said that they know they need to get Bedard some forward help. I'm really hoping this means that they are aiming higher than guys like Foligno and Perry. I'll give KD credit for Hall, but he's simply injured too often to make a difference.
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LAHawk
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Would the best three or four FA's be willing to take short term deals? Don't they normally max out the term? Unless you are looking at more mid-30's type guys. I guess it depends on the type of players you are looking for.
I don't think Nylander will even get to FA.
Guentzel
Marchessault
Stephenson
Stamkos
Reinhart
Toffoli
Duchene
Tarasenko
JvR
Lindholm
Sprong
Teravianen
Domi
Monahan
Sprong is 27, everyone else is 29 and older. I guess there are a few on this list that could work, but you have to wonder if other teams will be willing to offer more years, especially with the cap going up. - Chunk
He does have to get to the cap floor. Maybe offering Foligno one year at $11.5 will do it? Then he can resign all the RFA's so he can field another team with 10 4th line forwards.
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paulr
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Is that a nose? - mohel
I have another that isn’t, wanna see it? |
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Chunk
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He does have to get to the cap floor. Maybe offering Foligno one year at $11.5 will do it? Then he can resign all the RFA's so he can field another team with 10 4th line forwards. - LAHawk
I'd be surprised if more than one of Entwistle, Katchouk, R. Johnson, Anderson, and Blackwell return. No idea on Raddysh or Beauvillier, but I'd guess only one of those two as well.
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paulr
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The best UFA's are unlikely going to go for short term deals. I assume he'll do the same type of moves as last year. Hopefully more of the vets can play most of the year; this might make it easier for some to tolerate the suckage. - mohel
Will they take more money per year on a short term deal?
The novelty of Connor Bedard and whomever, is unlikely to attract season ticket sales if the on ice product promises to be inferior again. I think KFC has to put a better product on the ice to generate ticket sales as well as show the players they are serious about getting better. |
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Chunk
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Will they take more money per year on a short term deal?
The novelty of Connor Bedard and whomever, is unlikely to attract season ticket sales if the on ice product promises to be inferior again. I think KFC has to put a better product on the ice to generate ticket sales as well as show the players they are serious about getting better. - paulr
A guy like Stamkos, maybe since he's already got a couple cups. Luckily, he's been able to stay healthy the last two years.
KD certainly has to put together something better than this roster (even when fully healthy). I don't really think that the attendance will have much to do with it though. I still hold that the improvements need to be made to the roster in order to actually develop the younger players. getting blasted every night only teaches you so much. |
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Will they take more money per year on a short term deal?
The novelty of Connor Bedard and whomever, is unlikely to attract season ticket sales if the on ice product promises to be inferior again. I think KFC has to put a better product on the ice to generate ticket sales as well as show the players they are serious about getting better. - paulr
The thing is they are getting better, it's going to take time. The days of 5000 fans showing up to the game are long gone. As I've said before the west side has cleaned up nicely, the bars offer shuttles now to and from the games, many young adults live in the area and are always looking for something to do. Throw Bedard in the mix people want their season tickets and will keep them because like the team is investing in the future so are those same fans.
Also aren't they getting better next year if they have a top 4 pick? Certainly better than any fringe playoff team. |
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Chunk
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The thing is they are getting better, it's going to take time. The days of 5000 fans showing up to the game are long gone. As I've said before the west side has cleaned up nicely, the bars offer shuttles now to and from the games, many young adults live in the area and are always looking for something to do. Throw Bedard in the mix people want their season tickets and will keep them because like the team is investing in the future so are those same fans.
Also aren't they getting better next year if they have a top 4 pick? Certainly better than any fringe playoff team. - BetweenTheDots
They are getting better potential. They aren't getting better unless/until said pick actually produces in the NHL. |
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LAHawk
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The thing is they are getting better, it's going to take time. The days of 5000 fans showing up to the game are long gone. As I've said before the west side has cleaned up nicely, the bars offer shuttles now to and from the games, many young adults live in the area and are always looking for something to do. Throw Bedard in the mix people want their season tickets and will keep them because like the team is investing in the future so are those same fans.
Also aren't they getting better next year if they have a top 4 pick? Certainly better than any fringe playoff team. - BetweenTheDots
So you are saying that any fringe playoff team (however you define that as) has/had zero high draft choices in the past couple of years too?
Detroit, Minnesota, New Jersey, Winnepeg are I guess fringe playoff teams. Each has a pipeline of prospects that are probably equal to the Hawks. |
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