We really need to stop blaming the players in the top 9 and 1st/2nd pairings.
The blame lies squarely on
-Adams for not recognizing the signs of Girgs, Jost Oko failing and signing 2 D that don't resolve the need, as well as not bringing in a bonafide G.
- Granato for not upgrading all of his Staff, failing to have the ability to implement a structured system for play without the puck, finding the proper combinations

As 36 has said, there is enough talent but are being held back
- IonSabres

It feels like they did realize most of this, then got cold feet.

They held off on most of those re-signings. Gerbe told us they were going to make assistant coaching changes. We know they came close to making a bigger D move and wanted to make a move in net. The good days never came.

Dahlin can smash his stick all he wants when levi lets in a soft goal but he got beat on that play stuck out of position

However you slice it this coaching staff is beyond its worth here and the GM failed this roster miserably. Betting on a rookie goalie when you have playoff expectations should get you fired when it doesn't work.

There is a laundry list of reasons adams shouldn't be employed here anymore. A couple of decent contracts and what appears to be some solid drafting doesn't make up for it
- ieetbred

eh which ones?

Dahlin, Power, Cozens and subtract Tage’s year last year and those are four awful contracts if we consider the return on investment.

Dahlin just cracked the top-10 this season for defensive scoring. None of them have finished top-10 in scoring, we haven’t made the playoffs and picking top-10 every year isn’t an indicator of good drafting.

Please tell me how: Olofsson, Okposo, Girgensons, Jost, Johnson, Clifton on top of the aforementioned extensions are in any way “good contracts”.

Better yet just shut the (frank) up and stop talking out of your ass

Beady is angry

Dahlin can smash his stick all he wants when levi lets in a soft goal but he got beat on that play stuck out of position

However you slice it this coaching staff is beyond its worth here and the GM failed this roster miserably. Betting on a rookie goalie when you have playoff expectations should get you fired when it doesn't work.

There is a laundry list of reasons adams shouldn't be employed here anymore. A couple of decent contracts and what appears to be some solid drafting doesn't make up for it
- ieetbred

Preech on brother

Dahlin can smash his stick all he wants when levi lets in a soft goal but he got beat on that play stuck out of position

However you slice it this coaching staff is beyond its worth here and the GM failed this roster miserably. Betting on a rookie goalie when you have playoff expectations should get you fired when it doesn't work.

There is a laundry list of reasons adams shouldn't be employed here anymore. A couple of decent contracts and what appears to be some solid drafting doesn't make up for it
- ieetbred

Good Post

I don't know how Adams really expected to build a Team from basically internal pieces and picks. Might be different if you don't have a young Team you are starting with. You can do that when you have a bit of a older Team and you are looking to fill a 3 maybe 4 spots not 8. You just can't draft the pieces quick enough or hope there ready in time to help out your Team. Especially if the players have been losing like they have. Not gonna waste precious years for Adams BBQ Plan to happen.

eh which ones?

Dahlin, Power, Cozens and subtract Tage’s year last year and those are four awful contracts if we consider the return on investment.

Dahlin just cracked the top-10 this season for defensive scoring. None of them have finished top-10 in scoring, we haven’t made the playoffs and picking top-10 every year isn’t an indicator of good drafting.

Please tell me how: Olofsson, Okposo, Girgensons, Jost, Johnson, Clifton on top of the aforementioned extensions are in any way “good contracts”.

Better yet just shut the (frank) up and stop talking out of your ass
- Jet Jaguar BD

What you on boy

The tage contract is just fine, so maybe its one decent contract instead of two, but id bet on cozens being ok which makes two, a couple.

Obviously benson Quinn and JJP top his draft list and power is in rhere too despite a premature extension, better coaching and age will go far for him. Otherwise most of his draft picks aren't here yet or even close to being nhl ready, because 19 year olds don't generally make the show. They are showing promise at their current levels however and to ignore that is just stupid. I do think they should be using some of this potential talent to make trades not sit around and wait for them.

I believe a real nhl coaching staff that holds these kids accountable would go a long way but Im not a fan of adams and have been calling for his head since he resigned okposo and girgensons before free agency began

Maybe you should reed more

A lot of blame is Granato and game day roster decisions.

Playing olofsson / okpsos over Robinson is a really bad decision.

Playing Erik Johnson or Clifton over Ryan Johnson is another god awful decision

Giving greenway a top 9 spot over Kulich is wrong. He brings literally nothing.

The decline of tage cozens tuch and Dahlin. All having bad years compared to last year

Granato refusing to play our best lineup on a nightly basis and continuing to truck out the same lines is beyond crazy

A lot of blame is Granato and game day roster decisions.

Playing olofsson / okpsos over Robinson is a really bad decision.

Playing Erik Johnson or Clifton over Ryan Johnson is another god awful decision

Giving greenway a top 9 spot over Kulich is wrong. He brings literally nothing.

The decline of tage cozens tuch and Dahlin. All having bad years compared to last year

Granato refusing to play our best lineup on a nightly basis and continuing to truck out the same lines is beyond crazy
- Sabretooth9

Yea he is totally out to lunch

Greenway should have been a fixture on the 4th line this year and that is adams fault 100% for resigning players that are worse than him

Is our defense even AHL caliber?
- QuinnFan

our coaching echl quality? So if the d is ahl quality, that’s a win…

A lot of blame is Granato and game day roster decisions.

Playing olofsson / okpsos over Robinson is a really bad decision.

Playing Erik Johnson or Clifton over Ryan Johnson is another god awful decision

Giving greenway a top 9 spot over Kulich is wrong. He brings literally nothing.

The decline of tage cozens tuch and Dahlin. All having bad years compared to last year

Granato refusing to play our best lineup on a nightly basis and continuing to truck out the same lines is beyond crazy
- Sabretooth9

Ellis isn't even a Granato hire. It seems to me Granato wasn't able to pick some of his staff. Wilford was a horrible selection. But a few are Holdovers. Not taking blame away from Granato and he deserves a lot. But it's almost like he's sending messages to his GM. He's a first time NHL HC and you can tell but he's been a HC on some big stages he's not a Stupid Hockey mind.

Beady is angry
- jochfr

As he should be

Just not at me lol we are undoubtedly on the same side of things. Maybe he doesn't actually read my comments over the past year where I've been screaming for adams to do anything to help the nhl roster

And here's paul 'last cut' Hamilton on the radio continually repeating about how you shouldn't need the coach to kick the players in the ass

Its a hilariously stupid take. This team as its constructed absolutely 100% needs a coach to grab this lockerroom by the balls and tug

You can not trade the entire (frank)ing team paul. When they quit every time things get hard that is on the coaching staff and on ice leadership

And here's paul 'last cut' Hamilton on the radio continually repeating about how you shouldn't need the coach to kick the players in the ass

Its a hilariously stupid take. This team as its constructed absolutely 100% needs a coach to grab this lockerroom by the balls and tug

You can not trade the entire (frank)ing team paul. When they quit every time things get hard that is on the coaching staff and on ice leadership
- ieetbred

How about your Leadership Core, I would say it's just as much up to them. This isn't HS Hockey
Edit: missed your last part

I think Levi could be fine by next year. Maybe even late this year, if they had anything meaningful to play for. It's a huge jump going from college to the pros schedule wise. He just needs some time to settle in. He's already had some great games for the Sabres.
- Wetbandit1

They've needed a real, established goalie for 2.5 years and they settled on a very old - but still acceptable - Craig Anderson who could only play 30 games a year.

GM Vibe King never addressed this properly and if given a chance, he likely won't again this offseason. They're (frank)ing up Levi's development and I still don't think UPL is the solution, with all due respect to Luukkonen.

Next year they'll put Levi in the minors and sign some poopty American goalie who once practiced with the 2006 Hurricanes as a 10 year old and then met Don Granato at a skate and shoot

Saban retiring
https://www.yahoo.com/spo...imson-tide-221300348.html

How about your Leadership Core, I would say it's just as much up to them. This isn't HS Hockey
Edit: missed your last part
- Buff36

I'd be all for trading one of these core pieces to shake the locker room up

Okposo should be traded at the deadline if there is any interest whatsoever

Meanwhile, you're comparing them to one of the deepest and best teams in the league...yeah, there's going to be differences. When Tage got injured, we played Tyson Jost on the top line, when Barkov got injured, they gave more minutes to Reinhart and Lundell...these things are not the same.
- QuinnFan

we had 3 first round picks in the ahl ready to use during injuries

none of them sniffed the top 9

adams and meathead made that choice to put jost up instead of them

panthers on the other hand not so much

Can we stop with the youngest team in the league thing?

They will be the youngest team In The league for the next 3 years probably. Are we just going to keep tacking on that excuse every year?

Also they chose this.

Also it’s not like they had injuries piling up on top of each other. It was 1 or 2 at a time. If they can’t handle that fold the team.
- ImThatGuy

I would be happy if they just stopped with the excuses

it's been 13 years and many many first round picks since

https://youtu.be/-FltO7CLmlA?si=T_Sj_2klkBLFy1t8
For You Adams!
- Buff36

This is great...it really sums up the last 20 years.

They've needed a real, established goalie for 2.5 years and they settled on a very old - but still acceptable - Craig Anderson who could only play 30 games a year.

GM Vibe King never addressed this properly and if given a chance, he likely won't again this offseason. They're (frank)ing up Levi's development and I still don't think UPL is the solution, with all due respect to Luukkonen.

Next year they'll put Levi in the minors and sign some poopty American goalie who once practiced with the 2006 Hurricanes as a 10 year old and then met Don Granato at a skate and shoot
- Hank Balling

If the seasons ends with Levi .889 3.32 and UPL .899 3.01, what do you do? Can you really run that back, knowing your job is on the line?

They've needed a real, established goalie for 2.5 years and they settled on a very old - but still acceptable - Craig Anderson who could only play 30 games a year.


- Hank Balling

that's what happens when you throw 1 year contracts at ullmark

Imagine if torts coached this team

Dahlin certainly wouldn't be pinching his own blue line or leaving the front of the net without consequence

If the seasons ends with Levi .889 3.32 and UPL .899 3.01, what do you do? Can you really run that back, knowing your job is on the line?
- Lunaion

A lot is packed into your comment because I don't know that anyone's job is on the line. President Terry doesn't seem to care a-tall.

But regardless of any outcome, I would still get a real goalie in here.

More than that, get two defensemen though

If the seasons ends with Levi .889 3.32 and UPL .899 3.01, what do you do? Can you really run that back, knowing your job is on the line?
- Lunaion

would those numbers be better if power and dahlin played like first overall picks in their own end though?