According to Frank Seravalli Cutter Gauthier advised the Flyers he didn’t want to play for the team.

KD missed that one!
- paulr

Flyers have Michkov coming over in a couple of years. Guess they figured they could move Gauthier for a young Dman.

KD too busy acquiring 12th and 13th forwards to fill out the roster.

Geeez you’re relentless about Korchinski!
- paulr

Just an example of a GM realizing a pick wasn't going to work out and being smart enough to move on from it to get a nice return BEFORE said player loses value.

Just an example of a GM realizing a pick wasn't going to work out and being smart enough to move on from it to get a nice return BEFORE said player loses value.
- Elbows15

Which GM, other than Davidson, are you referring to?

Anaheim sends Drysdale and a 2nd to Philly for Cuttter Gauthier.


Wake up KD. I would have sent them KK for him in a blink of an eye. Heck, would have given them Jones, too, just for the heck of it.
- Elbows15

Drysdale another guy rushed to the NHL to play D. More time spent on IR than learning how to play defence.

Which GM, other than Davidson, are you referring to?
- paulr

The one in Anaheim who made the trade. Seemed obvious to me.

The one in Anaheim who made the trade. Seemed obvious to me.
- Elbows15

We’ll know in a few years and if Drysdale can put his injury problems behind him.

Anaheim sends Drysdale and a 2nd to Philly for Cuttter Gauthier.


Wake up KD. I would have sent them KK for him in a blink of an eye. Heck, would have given them Jones, too, just for the heck of it.
- Elbows15

Poor kid, didn't want to play in Philly so they send him to the Ducks.

Didn't everyone here love Drysdale? So much for Philly looking forward to having Cutter join that playoff team. I do wonder if this will be Cutters only stop.

I wonder if that's why Armstrong came out with this comment recently about Snuggerud?

https://twitter.com/Bally...eLbcHkK_zFDtJQOBTgzw&s=19

Just an example of a GM realizing a pick wasn't going to work out and being smart enough to move on from it to get a nice return BEFORE said player loses value.
- Elbows15

KD has demonstrated a willingness to move on when he dealt Dach to the Habs for picks 13 and 66 in the 2022 draft. Whether or not we agree with his assessment of when it's time to move on, he's capable of doing it when he believes it's time.

Just played the Tankathon and noticed that TB has its own pick this year. Yeah that's right, TB has fallen to the bottom 10.
- Popsghostly

3-4-3-1-1 today.

I don’t think there are any kind of gods, hockey or otherwise, but no matter where the Hawks pick there will be a good player.
- paulr

And that is why they will not trade out if it is slot, 5, 4, etc.

Let's not take Cole Eiserman off that top 6 either.

Or that teams in front of them at 3, 4, believing they are setting up their future with acquisition of any of the three big defenders, Artyom Levshunov, Sam Richardinson, or Anton Silayev.[I]
I just don't think teams are going to ignore the fact New Jersey grabbed up Nemec, and the third Hughes and not see they have the offensive chops with feet and attack and ignore going for defense.
I am sure if any draft has had three guys this big.

Considered one of the best drafts ever for defenders, 2008 had a big Zach Bogosian, Alex Pietrangelo, and Tyler Myers besides the rest of terrific group, but I see Sam Richardinson as a "safe" pick, and teams judging the other two differently.
Artyom Levshunov on his feet, jump and offense, with the idea he Korchinski's in and learns more backline on the job.

...and Anton Silayev: does he come NOW? Is really as nasty as they say? He really has an offensive niche too? (Last two are supposedly true).

I am not saying that Kyle's drafting a defenseman with that early slot is impossible, but I look at it this way: There are plenty of season ticket holders who will stay for Bedard, bought seats because of Bedard, and they right now know what was in Rockford, what youth is here, and are not holding their breath that the selections from other draft years are going to rectify the current scoring weaknesses.

So I think that being able to select a forward early in the draft especially if they were gifted Celebrini, they do buy seats and come back.
They know he is going the BU, but he comes after that in March/April.
There is also enough video proof of Eiserman's shot to open their pocket books and not quit too soon on owning seats.

Be mindful that I have Cayden Lindstrom in my mock at slot 2 to the Blackhawks before you start pitchforking me.

Cayden Lindstrom, like the selection of Kirby Dach, is going to take time.
Dach never saw the return to junior because of things he was pro like in doing, and solid in understanding defensive play, and it was the dream of the emulsion leading him to a possible role as big centre who would score in close and help generates stuff.
I just don't see Lindstrom re-creating that mess with an early arrival.

I think that if Kyle has the chance to trade his TWO picks to move to slot #2, he will no matter which offensive forward he wants badly is there.
(Or Tampa actually picks in the bottom 15 Kyle my see the value to where the future can be bolstered by standing pat.)

If Cutter Gauthier who is from Sudbury area wants to NOT play for the Flyers, they offered him around for a second (an obvious LOW second rounder) and they wanted a top offensive defenseman for him and Ducks were the best deal.
I see how Flyers were backed in a corner and the Ducks jumped at it.
This is all about Pavel Mintyukov, who is a stud, and the big man who fills any spot that Drysdale was going veto occupy in the future. And that the three defenders the have in the CHL will fill the void. (Owen Zellweger & Tristan Luneau)

If you fellas haven't watched any of Pavel Mintyukov, I think that will settle the argument, that he runs their power play in the future, and not Drysdale, who will get plenty of chances to succeed.

This wasn't some genius Verbeek move, Elbows....he just jumped at the chance to add a really good big man at forward

The one in Anaheim who made the trade. Seemed obvious to me.
- Elbows15

It seems obvious you had no idea that Cutter wanted to cut ties with Philly, eh?

Ducks got their future power forward who can play up and down their future forward lines and the Hawks currently haven't drafted one.
Furthermore the Flyers weren't asking for Sam Rinzel...and besides Drysdale is signed at 2.3 for two more seasons.

It seems obvious you had no idea that Cutter wanted to cut ties with Philly, eh?
- wiz1901

It seems obvious that the concept of proofreading your posts beyond your grasp.

Tho, what does Gauthier wanting out of Philly have to do with the GM in Anaheim trading Drysdale?

Nothing. That's what.

It seems obvious that the concept of proofreading your posts beyond your grasp.

Tho, what does Gauthier wanting out of Philly have to do with the GM in Anaheim trading Drysdale?

Nothing. That's what.
- Elbows15

WHATTT?

Then don't read them Dikhead


I will say it again --> Verbeek didn't call PHILLY
Philly called everybody until they found a young defender on the market.

What IS beyond my grasp is how you cannot see that Verbeek didn't become a genius GM that you implied for "cutting bait on youngsters before everyone knows they stink.." HE GOT a big scoring forward that wouldn't sign with Flyers.

Not any of what your curmudgeon butt said above. You wanna be a know it all fine, but reality was not ion your grasp on this one.

It’s been discussed here, but Elliotte Friedman is suggesting the Hawks may sign Phil Kessel.

It’s been discussed here, but Elliotte Friedman is suggesting the Hawks may sign Phil Kessel.
- paulr

via GIPHY

It’s been discussed here, but Elliotte Friedman is suggesting the Hawks may sign Phil Kessel.
- paulr

Isn't a example of a good pro

We may see the lack of pep in Jake Tinordi's step, but this guy hasn't shown as two way performance since....?

Isn't a example of a good pro

We may see the lack of pep in Jake Tinordi's step, but this guy hasn't shown as two way performance since....?
- wiz1901

At this point who cares about Kessel’s two way game or lack of leadership? If the Hawks sign him he takes some heat off Bedard, he gives Bedard a guy who can convert his passes, teams can no longer double and triple team Bedard because there’s a real scoring threat on his line and if Kessel can put up some goals he may be a TDL move for a draft pick. But my main purpose of posting this was because it had been a point of discussion on here for a few weeks.

Drysdale another guy rushed to the NHL to play D. More time spent on IR than learning how to play defence.
- RickJ

He receives a lot of TOI immediately and each game upon returning from injury

So he was rushed

He is pretty good?

Worth a top prospect?

He has an injury history severe enough to be a red flag

Yet Briere wants to have an anchor on defense. He can draft a top forward with his ‘24 first round

I am interested to hear whether Wolf is a really good prospect or just avg-fairly descent. Also is Lillegren going to become (projected) eventually a solid second pair. Just curious if Leafs are counting or thinking they have special players with those two

https://www.chron.com/spo...le-2nd-round-18597161.php


Apparently GREG BEACHAM the writer of this article on the trade, quotes Flyers GM Briere that
“It was a long time coming,” Briere said. “It’s been going on for a while. We tried to give him space. We tried to get in touch with him many times. He would not communicate ... so at some point, we had to make a decision, and we thought with what happened just a few days ago, this was probably the time to get the highest value.”

At this point who cares about Kessel’s two way game or lack of leadership? But my main purpose of posting this was because it had been a point of discussion on here for a few weeks.
- paulr

Yeah, I understood

3-4-3-1-1 today.
- 333inthe3rd

2-2-3-3-4

It’s been discussed here, but Elliotte Friedman is suggesting the Hawks may sign Phil Kessel.
- paulr

Thats at least fun for entertainment purposes and memes.

2-2-3-3-4
- DarthKane

4-2-2-1-2

4-2-2-1-2
- HawkintheD

4-2-4-3-1

He receives a lot of TOI immediately and each game upon returning from injury

So he was rushed

He is pretty good?

Worth a top prospect?

He has an injury history severe enough to be a red flag

Yet Briere wants to have an anchor on defense. He can draft a top forward with his ‘24 first round

I am interested to hear whether Wolf is a really good prospect or just avg-fairly descent. Also is Lillegren going to become (projected) eventually a solid second pair. Just curious if Leafs are counting or thinking they have special players with those two
- jhawk59

Josh Norris obviously had a shoulder issue. Most teams would probably still be interested in him.

Havlat had his shoulder rebuilt with the Hawks early in his career. So did Hossa though his was a bit later.

I think it was less an injury concern thing and more trading from a position of strength and they liked other guys in their system more. They should be a really interesting team as long as they don't end up like Ottawa.