Zegras and Mintyukov both expected to miss 6-8. Ducks competing hard for that no one pick.
- fattybeef

Ouch

Regardless I don't think anyone can compete with us or the Sharks. We are just that bad.
- Popsghostly

It’s a heartache
Trying to win
And hoping to “earn” a top draft pick
Btw I wonder how much a Bedard jersey cost nowadays

Other than Vlasic and Korchinski there aren't a lot of players that should still be around when they don't suck...
- fattybeef

Maybe Reichel. That Bedard kid has a shot to stick around too.

It’s a heartache
Trying to win
And hoping to “earn” a top draft pick
Btw I wonder how much a Bedard jersey cost nowadays
- jhawk59

In only 1/2 a year, the Hawks have already “earned” a top draft pick.

Maybe Reichel. That Bedard kid has a shot to stick around too.
- HawkintheD

You mean the guy who with 5 seconds to play, and the puck on his stick, still refuses to try and just get the puck to the net is looking to pass, snd when he did, the game was already over?

You mean the guy who with 5 seconds to play, and the puck on his stick, still refuses to try and just get the puck to the net is looking to pass, snd when he did, the game was already over?
- LAHawk

He shot more last year but doesn't seem to be a volume shooter.

I don't think Kurashev is a very good hockey player but he puts the puck on goal every chance he gets and I guess there is something to be said for that.

He shot more last year but doesn't seem to be a volume shooter.

I don't think Kurashev is a very good hockey player but he puts the puck on goal every chance he gets and I guess there is something to be said for that.
- fattybeef

Situational awareness?

Jets broadcaster Kevin Sawyer said he saw KK a lot with Seattle, he said KK is an ok skater, but what sets him apart is his hockey IQ. Haven’t heard that take before.
- LAHawk

Is Sawyer their color guy? Was enjoying him for maybe 1/2 the game but the non-stop love for Morrisey got old. ... Did not hear him say KK is an ankle bender with a high IQ. .. Actually, I see it exactly the opposite. A fine skater who is a tad short in the IQ department and that was in Jrs.

That was heartbreaking!
- bjphawkfan

It really was, and this game on top of the heartbreaking no points loss to EDM the game before. .... Outcome sucked but man, the last two games were really fun to watch.

I'm watching on a small laptop with no ability to rewind so tell me if I'm wrong. On the game winner Tinordi allowed a cross slot pass to his man to tie it. On the game winner just a bad read by Vlasic not to take the player right in front of him between the dots who scored the game winner.

Valiant effort. Without watching the replays, looked like mistakes by 25 & 24 ended up costing them.

55 & 72 are gonna be awesome in a couple of years.
- scottak

I haven't read around the internets yet, or see replays, but on the 2nd goal it was just a bad read by Vlasic, no? First goal Tinordi allows a cross slot pass to tie it, no?

Would calling a timeout have helped?
- Chunk

Wouldn't have hurt to call a timeout. For one the floodgates opened, WPG put the needle on the record and was flying the last 7-8 minutes and nothing wrong with the coaches driving home what the game plan was and what the film showed the Jets liked to do.

But we just don't know, has LR called any timeouts this yr?

Is Sawyer their color guy? Was enjoying him for maybe 1/2 the game but the non-stop love for Morrisey got old. ... Did not hear him say KK is an ankle bender with a high IQ. .. Actually, I see it exactly the opposite. A fine skater who is a tad short in the IQ department and that was in Jrs.
- Mr Ricochet

Yeah Sawyer is the analyst. He said it in the second period, as I posted never heard that before.

The love of Morrissey was getting vomit inducing.

It really was, and this game on top of the heartbreaking no points loss to EDM the game before. .... Outcome sucked but man, the last two games were really fun to watch.

I'm watching on a small laptop with no ability to rewind so tell me if I'm wrong. On the game winner Tinordi allowed a cross slot pass to his man to tie it. On the game winner just a bad read by Vlasic not to take the player right in front of him between the dots who scored the game winner.
- Mr Ricochet

Correct on Tinordi, he decided the more dangerous guy was the guy in the high slot and was drifting towards him with Villardi right on the doorstop.

On the game winner, IMO, play happened way too quick for Vlasic to react after Megna got caught (and beat one on one by Ehlers way too high in the zone. Ehlers was coming full boar, and let the shot go before Vlasic really had any chance to commit to him.

At least that is the way I saw it, but I am at the low end of the hockey IQ quotient on this board so take it with a grain of salt. I am sure more expert opinions will weigh in that you can rely upon.

When you look at what happened on the GWG, would settling them down have done anything? Ehlers literally skated through 3-4 Hawks. That's a gross talent difference.
- Chunk

Ok boys, take away the center of the ice, let em beat you wide but nothin between the dots, we know they like to go low to high, Ehlers likes to drive the middle take that away with flooding the neutral zone, Morrisey likes to carry wide and look for a trailer, they like to look weak side, nobody below the puck so we can keep the forward and D gaps tight, no clears thru the middle use the wall/glass, drop back with 4 across the blueline, when they pull the goalie we wanna take away Morrisey's left side of the ice with our center, we wanna play a passive box, we wanna play an aggressive box and pressure the points, if they get one cross ice down low we wanna send that Dman to the puck and the center takes his vacated spot in the slot, and on and on and on?

Nothing? No strategy to talk over? Nothing that the film showed WPG likes to do? Nothing that they like to do a,b and c but Schiefele is out so they won't do that but watch for Ehlers looking to draw Dmen and feed? If they pull the goalie we wanna approach it this way?

Nothing? Nothing to strategize, talk over, watch out for?

Correct on Tinordi, he decided the more dangerous guy was the guy in the high slot and was drifting towards him with Villardi right on the doorstop.

On the game winner, IMO, play happened way too quick for Vlasic to react after Megna got caught (and beat one on one by Ehlers way too high in the zone. Ehlers was coming full boar, and let the shot go before Vlasic really had any chance to commit to him.

At least that is the way I saw it, but I am at the low end of the hockey IQ quotient on this board so take it with a grain of salt. I am sure more expert opinions will weigh in that you can rely upon.
- LAHawk

I'll just add Kurashev was caught flat footed in the neutral zone as well very soft defense up the middle

Ok boys, take away the center of the ice, let em beat you wide but nothin between the dots, we know they like to go low to high, Ehlers likes to drive the middle take that away with flooding the neutral zone, Morrisey likes to carry wide and look for a trailer, they like to look weak side, nobody below the puck so we can keep the forward and D gaps tight, no clears thru the middle use the wall/glass, drop back with 4 across the blueline, when they pull the goalie we wanna take away Morrisey's left side of the ice with our center, we wanna play a passive box, we wanna play an aggressive box and pressure the points, if they get one cross ice down low we wanna send that Dman to the puck and the center takes his vacated spot in the slot, and on and on and on?

Nothing? No strategy to talk over? Nothing that the film showed WPG likes to do? Nothing that they like to do a,b and c but Schiefele is out so they won't do that but watch for Ehlers looking to draw Dmen and feed? If they pull the goalie we wanna approach it this way?

Nothing? Nothing to strategize, talk over, watch out for?
- Mr Ricochet

Or how about when the Hawks needed to pull the goalie, no strategizing?, no we have to cause a scrum in front of the net and any chance get the puck going towards the net? Instead we got the tail end of a regular power play instead of trying to create mad chaos in front of the goalie. Especially with guys that are unfamiliar with each other, this isn't like a Boston on a 6 on 5 where the players have been playing with each other for years.


Ben Pope
@BenPopeCST
At this point, the Blackhawks have accumulated 29 minutes of 6-on-5 time (with the goalie pulled) and scored only one total goal.

They've yet to tie a single game with the extra attacker.

Yeah Sawyer is the analyst. He said it in the second period, as I posted never heard that before.

The love of Morrissey was getting vomit inducing.
- LAHawk

His non stop love fest with Morrissey may have been vomit inducing but I’d love to see him or a guy like that on the Hawk roster.

His non stop love fest with Morrissey may have been vomit inducing but I’d love to see him or a guy like that on the Hawk roster.
- paulr

No argument there

I haven't read around the internets yet, or see replays, but on the 2nd goal it was just a bad read by Vlasic, no? First goal Tinordi allows a cross slot pass to tie it, no?
- Mr Ricochet

I would also add on the game winner, it was also one Mrazek would probably want back, but you kind of have to tip your cap to Ehlers on the play he made with speed up the middle. He is a really dangerous player when he is on and he used his speed and agility to beat defenders multiple times in that game.

It was only a matter of time until the Jets got on top in that one, the Hawks can't generate offensive pressure and the D and goalie have to be perfect which they won't be. Plays like that will happen to any team at the NHL level, unless they can control the play and keep the puck in the opposing end a lot more, which the Hawks can't, especially with the lineup right now.

It sucks we gave up two late goals, but overall with the roster still undergoing the rebuild, on the road against the first place team in the NHL, we held them to 28 shots, 2 goals against and kept it close right until the end. The team didn't quit, they put forth the effort, but it was two teams on different ends of the standings.

Pronman just tweeted this list

NHL Central Scouting mid term rankings for the 2024 draft

NA

1. Celebrini
2. Levshunov
3. Lindstrom
4. Buium
5. Connelly
6. Yakemchuk
7. Richardinson
8. Eiserman
INT
1. Helenius
2. Silayev
3. Demidov
4. Jiricek
5. Hemming

Interesting that Eiserman has dropped that much. Also,no Catton? According to this list,the Blackhawks might be able to grab Catton with the Tampa pick,depending on where it ends up

Pronman just tweeted this list

NHL Central Scouting mid term rankings for the 2024 draft

NA

1. Celebrini
2. Levshunov
3. Lindstrom
4. Buium
5. Connelly
6. Yakemchuk
7. Richardinson
8. Eiserman
INT
1. Helenius
2. Silayev
3. Demidov
4. Jiricek
5. Hemming

Interesting that Eiserman has dropped that much. Also,no Catton? According to this list,the Blackhawks might be able to grab Catton with the Tampa pick,depending on where it ends up
- captainserious

Angotti’s boy Lindstrom is storming up many draft lists.

Pronman just tweeted this list

NHL Central Scouting mid term rankings for the 2024 draft

NA

1. Celebrini
2. Levshunov
3. Lindstrom
4. Buium
5. Connelly
6. Yakemchuk
7. Richardinson
8. Eiserman
INT
1. Helenius
2. Silayev
3. Demidov
4. Jiricek
5. Hemming

Interesting that Eiserman has dropped that much. Also,no Catton? According to this list,the Blackhawks might be able to grab Catton with the Tampa pick,depending on where it ends up
- captainserious

Going to be interesting to see where the pick ends up. Tampa is in the thick of the playoff race, they got their goalie back (but he hasn't been in top form), and they have a fairly easy schedule remaining.

Angotti’s boy Lindstrom is storming up many draft lists.
- paulr

Yup
And it looks like the d-men aren't moving anywhere out of the top 10

You mean the guy who with 5 seconds to play, and the puck on his stick, still refuses to try and just get the puck to the net is looking to pass, snd when he did, the game was already over?
- LAHawk

So…punt on him?

I agree was wondering what he was waiting for but I think you’re watching a guy who is still struggling to find his confidence.

It’s a coachable moment and yes I’d like to see him shoot more too. Say it again…he’s 21 and I don’t think it’s a damnable moment where you decide to move on.

You’re complaining about not developing the yutes and also complaining when one of them doesn’t take a shot in the waning moments. Suppose you can have it both ways but you shouldn’t.

Regardless I don't think anyone can compete with us or the Sharks. We are just that bad.
- Popsghostly

I think there is a solid 5 teams who are struggling for wins..

I read this today about Zegras, but it was saying they are truly dumping him yet.
Despite Zegras’ offensive skills and charisma, he’s prone to penalties and undisciplined defensive play, which doesn’t fit into the style of game general manager Pat Verbeek wants his team to play.

The Lottery is simply iffy, and it is part of my morning brain activity every morning.

You cannot base the future on getting these already scupled finished products.

Sure, some years they are there. But so are high picks like Kappo Kaako (sp, lol) who need to play. or bust b/c of past and new injuries like Nolan Patrick had that derail them pretty much from the start.

There is a trend even with both positions to trail by fire early.

Bobby Brink for an example...and you have to wonder if Savoie is in the Windy city for more than rehab, but for an early audition.

The bottom line is besides the few high end skilled attackers and defenders who come physically, emotionally and super skilled, the idea that everyone is "plug" and has no upside is just dismissal of the idea that players improve with NHL experience.

That's why I won't be commenting on your negative posts, Elbows.

It is not worth the key strokes to defend, agree, or help me go through my day.
I already have to think and hope that the people in Iowa see true negative loser past their anger about the things that they have let stir up that are smaller concerns, the same way the good Italians and Germans let the their anger lead them to their approval of facism....

If you want to think no one in hockey can be good unless he is an established star or drafted first overall or early, that they cannot play, you do that, but you won't be a happy fan to this sport or any.

History (hockey history) have proven, even in recent years that outstanding players can come from improved "plugs" strong TEAMS developed through strong coaching staffs and strong team commitment.

And Steve from Glencoe, as a professional Blues singer, you need to get past your early "blusey" opinions that the head coach was way over his head, and was going to not be able to exist when Kane and Toews had "more" experience.
The guy is far better than I ever thought he was as strong presence, and so many games, our "plugs" haven't quit.

Last night I enjoyed the game ... A LOT. Not the outcome. In fact the games w/o Bedard were full of hard effort. I appreciate that.
It bodes well. no matter if ANY player is here in three years.

Something good is happening.

The league is not gifting the Blackhawks the first three players in the next 5 drafts.

Granted, Kyle is a "rookie" but is surrounded by people that will aid and debate personal scenarios.

This site is for your opinions.

I am just going to stop addressing so many of the things my opinion (or yours) cannot change during the overall.

Any if you want to put down a player as a plug, I will say nothing.

All I know is the plugs are sure better hockey players than I could ever be, and Like hockey, be cause they can, and I can't.