Sorry, Lindstrom.

No way in hell. After I lost two fights in a row, I decided to be more diplomatic.
- Chunk

Diplomacy is for tourists. Swing away!

My recollection of Dach’s scouting report was “skates well for a big guy” which is code for he skates OK. Dach was forecast as a pass first guy, who was good defensively, but wasn’t a finisher and wasn’t physical and he needed to fill out.


Every report I’ve read about Lindstrom is excellent skater, fast, agile and great balance without the ‘skates well for a big guy’ qualifier. He’s a late bloomer, but in his draft year he’s showing he can score and be a playmaker. He’s a physical beast at 6’4” and over 200 who plays a hard physical game. The only knock is a few scouts are critical of his hockey IQ.

Diplomacy is for tourists. Swing away!

My recollection of Dach’s scouting report was “skates well for a big guy” which is code for he skates OK. Dach was forecast as a pass first guy, who was good defensively, but wasn’t a finisher and wasn’t physical and he needed to fill out.


Every report I’ve read about Lindstrom is excellent skater, fast, agile and great balance without the ‘skates well for a big guy’ qualifier. He’s a late bloomer, but in his draft year he’s showing he can score and be a playmaker. He’s a physical beast at 6’4” and over 200 who plays a hard physical game. The only knock is a few scouts are critical of his hockey IQ.
- paulr

Oh great, so he’s a forward version of Viktor Svedberg.

Oh great, so he’s a forward version of Viktor Svedberg.
- Chunk

Well bud you just picked a fight with Angotti and I. Lindstrom is our guy you see!

https://hockeywiz777scout...3/11/13/cayden-lindstrom/

https://dobberprospects.c.../player/cayden-lindstrom/

http://www.mynhldraft.com...profiles/Cayden-Lindstrom


And Wiz’s analysis.

Prior to the 2023 season start, he didn't have the resume to justify being an early first rounder, but there is too much I like to not have him there now. .At six foot four plus, he has a rare combination of size, above average skating ability, the ability to make plays in tight areas, and strong hockey instincts. He hasn't put his game altogether but has all the outstanding tools in his size, skills, and hands that screams scary potential. He has the power and finesse that team covet. He was moved permanently to centre this season and he has shown plenty of new offensive generation ability with his fakes, set-ups and pass deception. At his size, he controls the middle of the ice and dominate the territorial play in his shorts, easily moving pucks out of danger, keeping teams pinned in their own end with a tumultuous forecheck. His skating is surprisingly good for such a large kid. Some team will take him fairly early.

--Bill Płaczek--

Well bud you just picked a fight with Angotti and I. Lindstrom is our guy you see!

https://hockeywiz777scout...3/11/13/cayden-lindstrom/

https://dobberprospects.c.../player/cayden-lindstrom/

http://www.mynhldraft.com...profiles/Cayden-Lindstrom


And Wiz’s analysis.

Prior to the 2023 season start, he didn't have the resume to justify being an early first rounder, but there is too much I like to not have him there now. .At six foot four plus, he has a rare combination of size, above average skating ability, the ability to make plays in tight areas, and strong hockey instincts. He hasn't put his game altogether but has all the outstanding tools in his size, skills, and hands that screams scary potential. He has the power and finesse that team covet. He was moved permanently to centre this season and he has shown plenty of new offensive generation ability with his fakes, set-ups and pass deception. At his size, he controls the middle of the ice and dominate the territorial play in his shorts, easily moving pucks out of danger, keeping teams pinned in their own end with a tumultuous forecheck. His skating is surprisingly good for such a large kid. Some team will take him fairly early.

--Bill Płaczek--
- paulr

Hey, speak for yourself, I’m just a little guy.

Diplomacy is for tourists. Swing away!

My recollection of Dach’s scouting report was “skates well for a big guy” which is code for he skates OK. Dach was forecast as a pass first guy, who was good defensively, but wasn’t a finisher and wasn’t physical and he needed to fill out.


Every report I’ve read about Lindstrom is excellent skater, fast, agile and great balance without the ‘skates well for a big guy’ qualifier. He’s a late bloomer, but in his draft year he’s showing he can score and be a playmaker. He’s a physical beast at 6’4” and over 200 who plays a hard physical game. The only knock is a few scouts are critical of his hockey IQ.
- paulr

The debate between Lindstrom or Eiserman is moot because we all know that the Hawks are going to win 8 of their last 12 games to move up to the 6th or 7th spot and maybe get bumped up to 8.

The debate between Lindstrom or Eiserman is moot because we all know that the Hawks are going to win 8 of their last 12 games to move up to the 6th or 7th spot and maybe get bumped up to 8.
- Popsghostly

The Hawks and what army?

The debate between Lindstrom or Eiserman is moot because we all know that the Hawks are going to win 8 of their last 12 games to move up to the 6th or 7th spot and maybe get bumped up to 8.
- Popsghostly

What would be the most important position the Blackhawks should add a top player?

Through trade?
No GM is charitable! Doudtful any GM is going to get fleeced

Through a major impact free agent sign?
Our GM has made it known such a transaction comes later, when the team has improved significantly! I would agree and be shocked to see a different course of action

Through the Entry Draft
This doubtlessly is the attitude and expectation on this board just who to draft is the dilemma
I vote for the best sniper preferably a wing or another center. I probably want another forward with the second first, but would yield and take the best player available it regardless of position. Even a LH dman

The prospects who are more likely to help us - short term & long term analysis - are scoring forwards then probably a dman. We may not get to draft the prospects who would help us most and we cannot count on KD to move up in the draft- I am proponent if this could occur. I remain fixated upon Celebrini and Eiserman despite The NHL scouting report Pronman released. And Lindstrom must prove he is the real deal for us to take him as it is too big a gamble if he isn’t really a guy who can perform well at speed

Interesting tweet from big head hockey

Highest goals/game as a 16yo on the u18 US NTDP in the last decade:

1.30 — Cole Eiserman
0.75 — Jack Hughes
0.56 — Clayton Keller
0.53 — Cole Caufield
0.50 — Will Smith
0.50 — Oliver Whalstrom

Is the knock on Eiserman that he is a 1 trick pony?
I still think I'd rather take him over Lindstrom
- captainserious

Lindstrom is a no brainer over eiserman

The Hawks and what army?
- bjphawkfan

The Kiss Army.

My problem with KFC is that he came out and said that they were not resigning Toews before the season ended and before Toews said he was taking the year off. Then he came up with the BS excuse of not having a captain in deference to Toews. On this he put the horse behind the cart.
- bjphawkfan

How hard is it to comprehend that he was told to clean out everyone from the Beach era.

It was so blatantly obvious that's what he had to do, i'm sure a condition for getting the job.

From what I've read, the knocks on Eiserman are that he can be a bit selfish with the puck and a bit lost/unengaged if he doesn't have it. it obviously hasn't slowed him down too much, but that's about all I've heard/read.
- Chunk

So we're saying the 16 yr old may have some learning and growing up to do

How hard is it to comprehend that he was told to clean out everyone from the Beach era.

It was so blatantly obvious that's what he had to do, i'm sure a condition for getting the job.
- vabeachbear

You seem so sure about that. If so how come he brought in Norm MacIver and Brian Campbell? Colin Fraser is on the scouting staff too. Two of the three played on the 2010 Cup winner.

You seem so sure about that. If so how come he brought in Norm MacIver and Brian Campbell? Colin Fraser is on the scouting staff too. Two of the three played on the 2010 Cup winner.
- boilermaker100

Those are good points, i personally felt this is a hard reset. No farewell tour just thank you for service but we are moving in another direction, a lot like a company would do, its funny many company men on this site who didn't like those moves.

You seem so sure about that. If so how come he brought in Norm MacIver and Brian Campbell? Colin Fraser is on the scouting staff too. Two of the three played on the 2010 Cup winner.
- boilermaker100

True but I think the point of not resigning Toews or Kane was so that the current youth movement and new old guys like Foligno could make the locker room their own, build their own culture and not live in the shadow of The Golden Era.

Interesting tweet from big head hockey

Highest goals/game as a 16yo on the u18 US NTDP in the last decade:

1.30 — Cole Eiserman
0.75 — Jack Hughes
0.56 — Clayton Keller
0.53 — Cole Caufield
0.50 — Will Smith
0.50 — Oliver Whalstrom

Is the knock on Eiserman that he is a 1 trick pony?
I still think I'd rather take him over Lindstrom
- captainserious

Nice to see interest in prospects and you post what you find/see. ... Thanks.

Interesting tweet from big head hockey

Highest goals/game as a 16yo on the u18 US NTDP in the last decade:

1.30 — Cole Eiserman
0.75 — Jack Hughes
0.56 — Clayton Keller
0.53 — Cole Caufield
0.50 — Will Smith
0.50 — Oliver Whalstrom

Is the knock on Eiserman that he is a 1 trick pony?
I still think I'd rather take him over Lindstrom
- captainserious

IMO the sharp ones see Eiserman as a rare scorer. His shot is elite and has been since he was 16 but at higher levels won't be able to create his own shot. Even though it's thought he won't be able to create his own shot in the NHL, (OV can't by the way!!!) his ability to read (IQ) without the puck offensively is also elite.

Elite shot and elite IQ offensively without the puck. ..... Assuming that translates to the NHL is that a one trick pony? ..... And it's good to kee in mind scoring goals is the hardest thing to do in the NHL.

IMO he's an average skater and in no way a bad skater. IIRC 6 ft tall but he's stout at 200ish lbs and has been stout since I saw him tryout for the NTDP.

As far as his 2 way play it didn't stand out either way. ... I think the knocks on him are oversated (that happens to all prospects their draft yr) but you can not over state his abiltiy to score and that includes his play without the puck.

He loooks like a threat to score 50 goals every yr. That's rare.

Torts already giving Drysdale the most TOI of the Flyer defenseman, played 22 minutes last night.

Wiz-

Looking at right shot D men in the late 1st or early 2nd I see you have EJ Emery a lot lower than other sites. He seems to have the size and most sites mention plus skating. What do you see that the others don’t? I saw him in the 4th round of your latest mock.

Thanks

What would be the most important position the Blackhawks should add a top player?



- jhawk59

Centerman, and if they have size bump up the value exponentially. .... Just like 95% of franchises throughout the history of the sport.

2 kinds of franchises, those who have centers and those looking for them.

Torts already giving Drysdale the most TOI of the Flyer defenseman, played 22 minutes last night.
- LAHawk

I make it a point to watch at least some of Flyers hockey weekly but haven't since Drysdale became a Flyer...... Like hearing it's off to a good start and Torts is diggin what he sees.

Torts already giving Drysdale the most TOI of the Flyer defenseman, played 22 minutes last night.
- LAHawk

I'm sure he'll find his way to the bench one of these days. #Torts.

Centerman, and if they have size bump up the value exponentially. .... Just like 95% of franchises throughout the history of the sport.

2 kinds of franchises, those who have centers and those looking for them.
- Mr Ricochet

Amen, Rico.

Torts already giving Drysdale the most TOI of the Flyer defenseman, played 22 minutes last night.
- LAHawk

I watched last night’s game. Drysdale is better defensively than I thought and his take away on a breakaway in OT was spectacular! Looks like it could a win/win for both teams.

I watched last night’s game. Drysdale is better defensively than I thought and his take away on a breakaway in OT was spectacular! Looks like it could a win/win for both teams.
- paulr

Hopefully love seeing trades that end up well for both sides.

Centerman, and if they have size bump up the value exponentially. .... Just like 95% of franchises throughout the history of the sport.

2 kinds of franchises, those who have centers and those looking for them.
- Mr Ricochet

The top two forwards will mean the most, will create and deliver more scoring on L1 or on L2 (if they are not always linemattes). The forward position is where we are really hurting. Those top forwards are too good to pass. Sure other prospects probably could prove very good and helpful as far as their and team success goes. Yet right now and regarding our farm system, the dmen and goaltenders is where we have descent prospects. At forward no one is for sure a top line prospect. Of course I like Moore, Nazar, Hayes, Musial and other forwards but they are not portrayed as top line - maybe they could one day reach that status - maybe
Lindstrom is a player who if wiz is unsure about…then I agree need to see more from him. Can he play at speed with and against the best ….your scouts need to tell you and right now our source who is in authority cannot say with certainty….so taking Lindstrom is a huge gamble pending future review from wiz