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Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jan 26 @ 4:38 PM ET
I'm not, i do get tired of him and Guttman pulling at the right or left boards as soon as they get into the ozone and wait for someone else to pass to so they can make a play.

- BetweenTheDots


Dots, Guttman does not have the speed to go wide on a Dman or really to beat most NHL Dmen 1 on 1, Reichel does and then some with fancy hands that can keep up with that speed.
Angotti
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Jan 26 @ 4:42 PM ET
Thought Necas was younger, he's 25. Right shot centerman/wing, good size at 6ft 2in and skilled. ..... I'd grab the kid. Is he an RFA or UFA? Assuming at 25 he's now a UFA and if so I'm guessing someone overpays him if CAR doesn't find a way to keep him. https://www.hockeydb.com/...s/pdisplay.php?pid=194727
- Mr Ricochet

Necas will be a RFA at then of this season, so you would need to trade for him, as I doubt the Hawks would do an offer sheet. Maybe a sign and trade…
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Jan 26 @ 4:42 PM ET
Thought Necas was younger, he's 25. Right shot centerman/wing, good size at 6ft 2in and skilled. ..... I'd grab the kid. Is he an RFA or UFA? Assuming at 25 he's now a UFA and if so I'm guessing someone overpays him if CAR doesn't find a way to keep him. https://www.hockeydb.com/...s/pdisplay.php?pid=194727
- Mr Ricochet


Some further analysis on Necas if you care. Reading this, he sounds like Havlat.




https://www.yardbarker.co...n_necas/s1_17203_39760160
Angotti
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Jan 26 @ 4:43 PM ET
Have to agree, and that Blackwell and Raddysh will go at the deadline for whatever they can get in return. They will need the slots for new guys. Opening night lineup 2024-25 is something like:

Hall - Bedard - free agent
Reichel - Athanasiou - Kurashev
Foligno - D!ckinson - Nazar
rookie - Guttman - Donato
R. Johnson

The 4th line rookie might be Dach, but spot will be open to a young guy who is ready.

The top line free agent is someone who can work well with Bedard. Needs to be good puck handler, good scorer, veteran, past winner, willing to work with young players, maybe someone who can be a crowd favorite too. There are some options out there, but The Player Who Cannot Return (not C. Perry) would fit that pretty well.

Reichel will get chances until he gets passed by. No hurry to decide on him. Rockford will be loaded with young guys too, maybe they can fill in if there is bad injury luck next season.

- totem

I’d like to see them pick up a center to play with Reichel and Kurashev, not a fan of AA.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jan 26 @ 5:00 PM ET
Being here in NC, see a bit of Carolina games more than others not Hawks, talk here is they might not be able to afford Marty Necas, what's everyone thoughts on him as a FA, too soon? too much?
- vabeachbear


If Necas is unaffordable to them, I would go get him, simply because he a really fine player in the offensive end, an excellent passer, and not really a small guy.

Offer two young defenseman, whatever Hawk player at foward they find interesting as a now, and Kyle will figure out where he is getting a pick to them.
I will bet he won't be trading the first rounders this team will be accruing...
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jan 26 @ 5:03 PM ET
A couple yrs back when Eiserman was in the NTDP tryout camp it was streamed and I watched it. The kid dominated but what I remember most, and caught my eye immediately, is the kid backchecked like Hossa.

Grit your teeth, grunt, drive your legs, ice gobbling kinda backcheck. Then of course his offense could be seen by a novice..... My point, Eiserman knows how to and can/will backcheck. I saw it.

- Mr Ricochet


I think it is in game highs and lows affect him and he doesn't hide disappointment and reacts. Maturity.
Believe me his shot IS worth taking top three over a defender.

Not trying to denigrate the giant Russian,Anton Silayev, another will he come or won't he?, Artyom Levshunov, Sam D!ckinson, Zayne Parekh , or Carter Yakemchuk who all will be gone before slot 15, but when the hawks end up drafting fourth maybe I start thinking defender.
Whether you question the missing part sin Eiserman or that Cayden Lindstrom is a one season wonder, it seems difficult for me with the Blackhawk's current state of mediocrity up front.
If you think Cale Makar is there sure, go for it.
If you think Hedman's clone is there, sure, but your staff BETTER be sure starting floor as NHLers is higher than Cayden Linstrom asa big scoring second line centre, or Eiserman as bonafide NHL scorer because there seems little doubt in my mind that he is suddenly getting handcuffed in the bigs, his shot is really good...not Bedsy's, but extremely strong and accurate like a NHL pure shooter.

POSTNOTE: I am here chatting away and go into the Eisrman profile and I notice I haven't updated since September. it says, "There is a very good chance he gets asked onto the US World Junior Under-20 at Christmas time. "
I gotta get off of here for awhile. Mudderfracker!
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Fixed! Try Cole Eiserman Lines.com

And if you look at the position of defenseman in say the drafts from 2017 - 2023, it's pretty clear that far more of the ones selected in the top 50 picks have played before most of the forwards in their draft classes. I am talking not the failures, but there are a high number who play regular roles on teams, and got there before most of that forward class, and considering how teams carry a lot less defenders, that is a stat that says a lot about junior defenseman.
333inthe3rd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.04.2015

Jan 26 @ 5:26 PM ET
I doubt any get moved b/c they have little value based on the fact they have not elevated the forward group by their play.

Almost the entire forward contingent would be better players if they are on NHl teams with better defenders, and better line mates.

It's sorta why I do not want the hawks to miss out on the Chicago Steel's Hage...he is playing with a poor surrounding cast...you put him elsewhere you see how he would shine.

- wiz1901


That's the part I wonder about, what any of them would be like in a better situation, and if another front office is willing to make a trade for any of them based on that. Are there too many better options among the rest of the sellers at the lower cap hit? I said before it was pretty clear to me that the Hawks are probably stuck with their higher cap hit expiring contracts. Otherwise, as has already been said, they have two retention slots available to broker trades.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jan 26 @ 5:29 PM ET
I wouldn't be surprised to see Dach on the opening night roster next season. I know he's had some health issues, but when he's played he's performed very well.
- DarthKane

Have to see how much time longer he misses with concussion. If he misses most of this season then he needs to play in AHL for a while next season.

I agree he is a player to call up but he needs more “seasoning.”
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jan 26 @ 7:10 PM ET
That's the part I wonder about, what any of them would be like in a better situation, and if another front office is willing to make a trade for any of them based on that. Are there too many better options among the rest of the sellers at the lower cap hit? I said before it was pretty clear to me that the Hawks are probably stuck with their higher cap hit expiring contracts. Otherwise, as has already been said, they have two retention slots available to broker trades.
- 333inthe3rd


I think most of them would be 4th liners or 13th forwards. Someone would probably be accept Reichel as a sweetener but you couldn't build a deal around him.

I don't care for Kurashev and I don't think Donato is more than an energy guy. Other than Joey Anderson I don't think there are a lot of other players they need to hold on to or give anything more than a one year deal to outside of the guys they already extended and Hall. Maybe Guttman you can qualify or whatever.

These aren't lines these are just guys who are probably going to be on the team in groups of 3 so it makes sense.

Bedard, Hall, Foligno
Nazar, D1ckinson, Anderson
Kurashev, Reichel, Donato,
AA (if healthy), TBD, TBD

I think they need at least one top 6 player as Hall insurance and one middle six veteran just so they can tread a little more water. They should have the monies and assets to do both of those things with out blocking anyone or any of that.

Necas I think fits the mold of the players they are looking for. Josh Norris would be really nice if they don't draft first and Ottawa is looking to shake stuff up. Marner is a fantasy but him and Bedard - wow. Maybe with Fantilli that makes a player in Cbus like Sillinger superfluous.

What do the islanders or blues really think about their future and do they want to try to move a very good player for futures to retool or whatever.

Should be guys available it's just gonna cost.
Angotti
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Jan 26 @ 7:36 PM ET
I think most of them would be 4th liners or 13th forwards. Someone would probably be accept Reichel as a sweetener but you couldn't build a deal around him.

I don't care for Kurashev and I don't think Donato is more than an energy guy. Other than Joey Anderson I don't think there are a lot of other players they need to hold on to or give anything more than a one year deal to outside of the guys they already extended and Hall. Maybe Guttman you can qualify or whatever.

These aren't lines these are just guys who are probably going to be on the team in groups of 3 so it makes sense.

Bedard, Hall, Foligno
Nazar, D1ckinson, Anderson
Kurashev, Reichel, Donato,
AA (if healthy), TBD, TBD

I think they need at least one top 6 player as Hall insurance and one middle six veteran just so they can tread a little more water. They should have the monies and assets to do both of those things with out blocking anyone or any of that.

Necas I think fits the mold of the players they are looking for. Josh Norris would be really nice if they don't draft first and Ottawa is looking to shake stuff up. Marner is a fantasy but him and Bedard - wow. Maybe with Fantilli that makes a player in Cbus like Sillinger superfluous.

What do the islanders or blues really think about their future and do they want to try to move a very good player for futures to retool or whatever.

Should be guys available it's just gonna cost.

- fattybeef

I don’t think that there’s any doubt that KD needs to bring in a top six forward for next year, he has to. If not, you will see attendance decline. Another top six plus Hall will add some offense to this team, which is badly needed. That in turn will help the young D as well, as they currently stand they get pinned in their zone way too often.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jan 26 @ 10:18 PM ET
Yo LA, watching the LA @ COL tilt and see Fagemo is up with the big squad. The 23 yr old 2nd rd pick has 20 goals in 24 AHL games this yr!!

Interesting player. The Svede never really showed goal scoring prowess until he came over to NA and has been scoring in the AHL ever since. https://www.hockeydb.com/...s/pdisplay.php?pid=210839
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jan 26 @ 11:01 PM ET
Saw Erie and Misiak play Oshawa tonight. Good back and forth game. I think Cal Ritchie must have had five or six points, he was everywhere. An undrafted 19 year old kid on Erie, with the excellent “Scandinavian” name of Pano Fimis was the next best player, he was always involved in the play, a smallish guy who had no problem playing in the tough areas on the ice. He was on the powerplay and he killed penalties. I’m betting he hears his name called in June.

So I was interested in seeing Misiak’s game. He’s not remotely physical. He doesn’t really even bump guys. He didn’t show much offensively tonight but his line, and he, were was being checked closely all game. Now for the good. Even though he’s not physical he has no problems playing in the tough areas, in front of the net, along the boards and in the corners. He wins allot of stick on stick puck battles. He’s extremely responsible defensively, almost too responsible, with a minute or so left in the game with Erie’s goalie pulled Misiak was high in the zone. He’s a very good stickhandler and a strong skater.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jan 26 @ 11:16 PM ET
Some further analysis on Necas if you care. Reading this, he sounds like Havlat.




https://www.yardbarker.co...n_necas/s1_17203_39760160

- Chunk


One helluv an article, Chunk. Thanks for posting. First time I read yard Barker. Are all the articles that deep?

The eye test and fancies back what we see in Necas. Skilled player that can skate. Imaine CAR finds a way to keep him.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jan 26 @ 11:21 PM ET
If Necas is unaffordable to them, I would go get him, simply because he a really player in the offensive end, an excellent passer, and not really a small guy.

Offer two young defenseman, whatever Hawk player at foward they find interesting as a now, and Kyle will figure out where he is getting a pick to them.
I will bet he won't be trading the first rounders this team will be accruing...

- wiz1901


If KD trades a 1st for a player generally speaking I'd want a centerman or right shot Dman.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jan 26 @ 11:34 PM ET
Hasn't Turcotte been riddled with injuries though?
- fattybeef

Maybe, but he has about 120 AHL games and 12 NHL games. Not a great ratio for a guy drafted 5th overall. Especially when 2 guys the Kings drafted the same year later in the 1st eound both have well over 100 NHL games on their resume.

Doubt Turcotte has a future in LA, maybe he could be a very cheap pickup for the Hawks with the hope he is a late developer.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jan 26 @ 11:44 PM ET



Not trying to denigrate the giant Russian,Anton Silayev, another will he come or won't he?, Artyom Levshunov, Sam D!ckinson, Zayne Parekh , or Carter Yakemchuk who all will be gone before slot 15, but when the hawks end up drafting fourth maybe I start thinking defender.


- wiz1901


To me the 7ft Cossack defender is off the table. Don't care if he ends up a Hedman I will not risk a top 5 pick on any Russian.

Wiz, what I'm starting to wonder is this. Will Zayne Parekh break into the top 5? Kid is on pace for near 40 goals and 90 pts. And listed at 6ft 180 he ain't no smurf.
If he keeps up this freaky pace there is gonna be a lotta noise around him asking is in Makar's stratosphere?..... Hawks draft 4th with Celebrini, Lindstrom and Eiserman gone. Do they, or any franchise, have the balls to draft right shot Parekh 4th or 5th with most or all of Siliyev, Lebshonov and/or D!ckinson still on the board?

A little bit about the 17 yr old. https://thehockeynews.com...hl-draft-player-spotlight
Mr Ricochet
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Joined: 04.19.2009

Jan 27 @ 12:05 AM ET



I don't care for Kurashev and I don't think Donato is more than an energy guy. Other than Joey Anderson I don't think there are a lot of other players they need to hold on to or give anything more than a one year deal to outside of the guys they already extended and Hall. Maybe Guttman you can qualify or whatever.



- fattybeef


Fatty, I was thinking the last couple weeks one of the biggest surprises for me as far as the Hawks is why isn't Kurashev getting a bunch of love here and on the internets? We have enough sample size this yr to say the kid has a high motor. He's quick to pucks, will battle, shows + speed, has some skill in his hands and shows some vision. Can also play rush hockey at pace..... Seems every shift he's involved and making plays to where you can't miss him. Often enough he finds a way to be dangerous, which is saying much on this roster.

And when Bedard went down he was on pace for 52ish pt pace. What is a player who can skate with Bedard at a 50-55 pt pace worth?

Just surprised you don't like him. The eye test says he's all but shed the inconsistent moniker and turned a corner a bit.


SC116
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 08.29.2015

Jan 27 @ 12:35 AM ET
Well ... StL/Seattle is on down here - and the pbp guy is trying his best to be a Dan Kelly impersonator - and in the words of Coach (of the Letterkenny Irish) ... it's 'kin embarrassing.'

I mean yeh homer homer homer -hear it all of the time - but yep, that crew is more Homer than Simpson... late in the third and whoever it is got so excited by a rebound (that no one was anywhere near) - I think he might have had an accident.

Is what it is -- I guess I'll take someone I can tune out.

And it gets better - the colour guy there just explained how a Seattle guy who missed an open net - that ... 'it was no goal that time.' Gosh, really? I thought you got credit for near misses.


Oh it was entertaining though - just not in the way I think they wanted it to be.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jan 27 @ 12:41 AM ET
Holloway cannot find his way upwards from line #4 but indication is that he will have Perry on his line Saturday
SC116
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 08.29.2015

Jan 27 @ 12:41 AM ET
Anyways nice win by the Blues- they got outshot badly --- basically the Seattle goalie not really dialed in (probably asleep really) - at one point there were 3 goals on 13 St L shots... all of which means - nothing much going on Hawks-wise on a Saturday afternoon down in Australia.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jan 27 @ 2:10 AM ET
Anyways nice win by the Blues- they got outshot badly --- basically the Seattle goalie not really dialed in (probably asleep really) - at one point there were 3 goals on 13 St L shots... all of which means - nothing much going on Hawks-wise on a Saturday afternoon down in Australia.
- SC116


Blues have a veteran laden team but a couple of young scoring forwards and maybe Neighbors is ok. They also had three first round picks in ‘23.

Bucknovich helped beat the Kraken. He reportedly is available. Not for us though. St Louis probably wants a draft pick,
wizardofi
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Maple Ridge, BC
Joined: 04.17.2011

Jan 27 @ 2:50 AM ET
Blues have a veteran laden team but a couple of young scoring forwards and maybe Neighbors is ok. They also had three first round picks in ‘23.

Bucknovich helped beat the Kraken. He reportedly is available. Not for us though. St Louis probably wants a draft pick,

- jhawk59

Could always give a first with a top 10 protected which means St Louis won't get a pick until we are playoff ready
LFS
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.08.2021

Jan 27 @ 5:48 AM ET
Part of the critique on the current state of landis might be close to the Eiserman one...he is interested in the net, cheats on the other end, no full effort defensively.
- wiz1901

Would rather have someone who can score but cheats on the other end rather than someone eho csnt put s puck in an open net but backchecks
dahawks8819
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.29.2014

Jan 27 @ 6:05 AM ET
Would rather have someone who can score but cheats on the other end rather than someone eho csnt put s puck in an open net but backchecks
- LFS


If this is the case, then we are talking about a Canadian version of Artemi Panarin.

And with enough body of evidence that teams don't win cups with Panarin, I say hard pass.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jan 27 @ 7:03 AM ET
Could always give a first with a top 10 protected which means St Louis won't get a pick until we are playoff ready
- wizardofi

Maybe for someone theoretically but not Bucknovich. He is not worth such a lofty return. I bet that KD can find a veteran through trade or free agency but will not surrender a draft choice. Not a first or second round pick anyway. There is a possibility to loose a veteran through trade yet pick another veteran up basicly without meaningful loss of talent. Probably come away with a better player

I foresee Johnson and maybe one other forward gone at trade deadline or previous to next season. Eventually both Entwhistle and R Johnson depart

Our next opponent: Calgary
interesting players: Zary is a fairly good player. And when Kylington returns.,,,he played in their last game

Always have liked m Backlund. Calgary has a capable player who may be somewhat disappointing this season yet was subject if trade rumors earlier this season; that is R Anderson whose next contract ask is “pricy.”

Huberdeau still a disappointment no rebound season

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