The plan as far back as February last season was to give the net to Levi. They started this season giving him the first 4 games. Then went to Comrie...only then to go to UPL.
- washedup20

And UPL has changed their plan. Devon Levi is in the AHL.

The Sabres have potential in the system...that's it. Fans are hoping that translates to helping the Sabres win. Potential has been in abundance for 13 years now though...with nothing but hope still.
- washedup20

Yes whether that be on the Sabres or as a Asset to get a different piece that helps me Win. Whether you want to say Potential or Prospects there still Highly Rated and Assets.

And UPL has changed their plan. Devon Levi is in the AHL.
- DirtyDan

It's more that Levi has failed, but either way you end up here.

It's more that Levi has failed, but either way you end up here.
- washedup20

Sooo UPL being at a .909 has nothing to do with it? Didn't Donnie say the other day hes taken the #1 spot with his play?

Levi shouldn't see the light of the NHL till the end of the year. If not next year.

Yes whether that be on the Sabres or as a Asset to get a different piece that helps me Win. Whether you want to say Potential or Prospects there still Highly Rated and Assets.
- Buff36

We hope they are still highly rated...their personal potential aside, to acquire them a GM has to make a deal with Adams...who hasn't put himself into a position of strength...and has a history of bad trades. So it's a difficult situation to assess on their potential alone.

We hope they are still highly rated...their personal potential aside, to acquire them a GM has to make a deal with Adams...who hasn't put himself into a position of strength...and has a history of bad trades. So it's a difficult situation to assess on their potential alone.
- washedup20

Bad or just underwhelming?

He hasn't made a real trade since he had to move out the old core. (which is just as bad)

For the bolded, all of these are 1st round picks. They are all small, perimeter players who require substantial line support to reach their potential.

For the 2nd half of your post, that's mismanagement by the organization setting these players up for failure, which has happened to every player who played in Buffalo, only to leave and thrive.

None of the drafted players will ever be as good as Eichel...and Eichel couldn't even break through here.
- washedup20

Have you looked at a Curve of Draft selections with respect to "making" the NHL as defined by playing x (200) games?
It falls off extremely dramatic within the top 5 Picks, let alone 1st rounders.
Point is, there is a difference between 1-OA, 10-OA and on to 32nd....not all 1st rounders are the same. In fact, 32-0A is closer to #256 than it is to #15, maybe even 20th.

Without researching for accuracy,
D+1 is very, very good (once outside the top 3)
D2 is probably normal through the top 15
D3 is typical for 2nd rounders+

You are beating the poop out of Benson for staying in the show ... He's way, way ahead of schedule.

Have you looked at a Curve of Draft selections with respect to "making" the NHL as defined by playing x (200) games?
It falls off extremely dramatic within the top 5 Picks, let alone 1st rounders.
Point is, there is a difference between 1-OA, 10-OA and on to 32nd....not all 1st rounders are the same. In fact, 32-0A is closer to #256 than it is to #15, maybe even 20th.

Without researching for accuracy,
D+1 is very, very good (once outside the top 3)
D2 is probably normal through the top 15
D3 is typical for 2nd rounders+

You are beating the poop out of Benson for staying in the show ... He's way, way ahead of schedule.
- IonSabres

They way Benson has played at 18, Is super promising. Goals pts will come once he gets a little stronger, little more confident.

The brains/hockey sense on the kid are fantastic if I do say so myself. Dont usually see this at his age IMO.

Have you looked at a Curve of Draft selections with respect to "making" the NHL as defined by playing x (200) games?
It falls off extremely dramatic within the top 5 Picks, let alone 1st rounders.
Point is, there is a difference between 1-OA, 10-OA and on to 32nd....not all 1st rounders are the same. In fact, 32-0A is closer to #256 than it is to #15, maybe even 20th.

Without researching for accuracy,
D+1 is very, very good (once outside the top 3)
D2 is probably normal through the top 15
D3 is typical for 2nd rounders+

You are beating the poop out of Benson for staying in the show ... He's way, way ahead of schedule.
- IonSabres

Maybe he needs it to wake up...why are we celebrating an 18 year old surviving in the league on a bottom 5 team, when the team had playoff expectations.

He shouldn't be here, I don't give a crap about any individual, the roster is mess, if a player is on it, they deserve criticism

We hope they are still highly rated...their personal potential aside, to acquire them a GM has to make a deal with Adams...who hasn't put himself into a position of strength...and has a history of bad trades. So it's a difficult situation to assess on their potential alone.
- washedup20

That's the problem, it's not the player. It's the GM for sitting on them or waiting to long. Sabres have like 5 prospects ranked the top 50 and that's pretty wild. Bad thing is if you sign Mitts to a extension where do they fit. Cause 4 out of 5 are almost ready or are ready. Adams can only wait so long before the shine wears off these kids.

I learned today it takes 13 failed seasons to make fans accept their team becoming a development program for the league they compete in.

I learned today it takes 13 failed seasons to make fans accept their team becoming a development program for the league they compete in.
- washedup20

Hey, we are good at something

I learned today it takes 13 failed seasons to make fans accept their team becoming a development program for the league they compete in.
- washedup20

It didn't take 13 seasons. Been like this for awhile

Hey, we are good at something
- Buff36

It didn't take 13 seasons. Been like this for awhile

- DirtyDan

touche

1 of these guys is not like the others.
- DirtyDan

4 bouts for quinn

numerous bouts for samuelsson

savoie before training camp his first go around
training camp this past year and world jrs


they all miss serious time

1 of these guys is not like the others.
- DirtyDan

who would you say is not like the others?

I learned today it takes 13 failed seasons to make fans accept their team becoming a development program for the league they compete in.
- washedup20

when OJ finds the real killer(s) we will get back to being a decent hockey team

4 bouts for quinn

numerous bouts for samuelsson

savoie before training camp his first go around
training camp this past year and world jrs


they all miss serious time
- homiedclown

Shoulders are funny things! Once you hurt it Bad, never ever the same. And seem to be more prone to get injured again. And that is Definitely from Personal experience

4 bouts for quinn

numerous bouts for samuelsson

savoie before training camp his first go around
training camp this past year and world jrs


they all miss serious time
- homiedclown

Quinn has 4 injuries?

The Achilles in the offseason and the Leg through the boards last month. 2 pretty freak injuries. What else? Played 75 games last year. Oh the first year in the AHL he got hurt with something. What was that again?

Savoie has that bad shoulder, reaggravated it which is common with shoulders. At his age he can strengthen that thing up and be good as new. Looks to be fine back in the W. Have to wait and see till he plays against the men again if he can take some hits.

when OJ finds the real killer(s) we will get back to being a decent hockey team
- homiedclown

Quinn has 4 injuries?

The Achilles in the offseason and the Leg through the boards last month. 2 pretty freak injuries. What else? Played 75 games last year. Oh the first year in the AHL he got hurt with something. What was that again?

Savoie has that bad shoulder, reaggravated it which is common with shoulders. At his age he can strengthen that thing up and be good as new. Looks to be fine back in the W. Have to wait and see till he plays against the men again if he can take some hits.
- DirtyDan

I think quinn had 2 stints his first season

Have you looked at a Curve of Draft selections with respect to "making" the NHL as defined by playing x (200) games?
It falls off extremely dramatic within the top 5 Picks, let alone 1st rounders.
Point is, there is a difference between 1-OA, 10-OA and on to 32nd....not all 1st rounders are the same. In fact, 32-0A is closer to #256 than it is to #15, maybe even 20th.

Without researching for accuracy,
D+1 is very, very good (once outside the top 3)
D2 is probably normal through the top 15
D3 is typical for 2nd rounders+

You are beating the poop out of Benson for staying in the show ... He's way, way ahead of schedule.
- IonSabres

You pretty much nailed it. Probably even undersold the fall off after the first 5 picks.

https://dobberprospects.c...draft-pick-probabilities/



If the Sabres have a bunch of 65-75% guys, how many stick, let alone become good? How patient can they afford to be?

I think quinn had 2 stints his first season
- homiedclown

season ending hernia along with missing significant time from Mono - which stopped him from having a great season in Rochester.

season ending hernia along with missing significant time from Mono - which stopped him from having a great season in Rochester.
- washedup20

So a sickness from those lockport skanks, an injury that could happen to any athlete at anytime, and 2 freak injuries this year.

Wouldn't call that injury prone.