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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 7 @ 1:50 PM ET
Does anyone actually believe
that?

- Lunaion


I heard the loses were significantly less on average ...more like $4m - $5m. Covid the losses skyrocketed, and I could imagine $20m+ ... Could it be as high as $30m? Maybe.

The solution is increased ticket prices and for the team to win enough to get several games of PO Revenue when the sharing model changes and they pull in significantly more.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 7 @ 1:51 PM ET
I heard the loses were significantly less on average ...more like $4m - $5m. Covid the losses skyrocketed, and I could imagine $20m+ ... Could it be as high as $30m? Maybe.

The solution is increased ticket prices and for the team to win enough to get several games of PO Revenue when the sharing model changes and they pull in significantly more.

- IonSabres

covid ppp money probably helped

Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Feb 7 @ 1:56 PM ET
I heard the loses were significantly less on average ...more like $4m - $5m. Covid the losses skyrocketed, and I could imagine $20m+ ... Could it be as high as $30m? Maybe.

The solution is increased ticket prices and for the team to win enough to get several games of PO Revenue when the sharing model changes and they pull in significantly more.

- IonSabres


That seems much more reasonable to me.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Feb 7 @ 1:57 PM ET
AZ probably has til the end of this season to show the league a plan for a new arena.
They’re going to be the team in Salt Lake if they don’t get an arena plan rolling soon.

I don’t see the Sabres moving after (if) pegs sells them. Any new owner would see a Hockey mad market that would throw buckets full of money at a competitive team, just do it right.
Pegs has turned the Sabres into the old Panthers, while growing nothing but apathy amongst his team’s fan base.

- Ratsreign


Well played sir:

Friedman on Coyotes (TJMS): “I think that we are coming to the end of the line with this ownership group, I believe there isn’t something hard and fast in place in the very near future. They will begin the process of selling the team or the NHL taking over the team…”

“and selling it to someone else, I believe we will get there. I believe one of the reasons you hear the commissioner say nothing negative about them is he knows this could end up in a big legal fight and he doesn’t want to say or do anything that will end being used against him”

https://x.com/NHL_Watcher.../1755296902541640181?s=20
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Feb 7 @ 2:23 PM ET
If Okposo was a real leader, he’d have already told Meatballs that he and Girgs should be getting sheltered heavy d-zone minutes, 0 PP time, possible kill time (think he’d be ok/better with reduced 5v5 time), and benched if a one goal deficit late in the third. Let the kids learn to become better pros by failing a couple times and also succeeding a couple of times, instead of watching KO and Girgs fail repeatedly. But he’s not a true leader, he’s just a nice guy that won’t get too upset at the guys.
Frizzlefry
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Don't get so high and mighty about your superiority over Lockport, NY
Joined: 10.10.2015

Feb 7 @ 2:43 PM ET
Read somewhere the Sabres do pretty well with there board displays advertisements.
- Buff36


Yup, read that too. And don't forget the money they get from MSG. I think I read around $20m/year for broadcasting rights.
Jet Jaguar BD
Seattle Kraken
Location: BD look 👀 at you pic and you look like a burned out short order cook hiding in mommy basement!!
Joined: 07.17.2021

Feb 7 @ 2:47 PM ET
None of this is true. I can promise you that.

They are absolutely incompetent, and that incompetence is why we are here.

-I'm not sure what you consider a carpet bagger/snake oil salesman, but I'd be interested in why you think Pegula is in this category
-They took a ton of advice from people they shouldn't have. This was extremely well documented, to the point where they trusted no one but Kevyn Adams. Hence, why he's the GM.
-They still have great interest in the Sabres. I can personally assure you of that.

They are incompetent and are much more hesitant to spend money than they used to be. Their own bad decisions, bad hirings/contracts plus lockdowns brought them to this point. Their staff and arena management has been atrocious. These things are objectively true.

- TheSabresTaco

Um. Fracking is literally snake oil.
Jet Jaguar BD
Seattle Kraken
Location: BD look 👀 at you pic and you look like a burned out short order cook hiding in mommy basement!!
Joined: 07.17.2021

Feb 7 @ 2:50 PM ET
For the most part, UPL has been really good this year. Did anyone call it back in September?

Good for him. One of the few bright spots on this team. UPL, Peterka and Mitts have progressed. All the rest have gone backwards.

- SabreWest

Go back and I am literally the only one saying keep him, he might be goalie tage.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Feb 7 @ 2:58 PM ET
Go back and I am literally the only one saying keep him, he might be goalie tage.
- Jet Jaguar BD


Fwiw, been a loud supporter of his since the get go. It's why I post the "Waive UPL" all the time as I was repeatedly told that he would clear and, even if he didn't, it was in our best interest.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Feb 7 @ 3:02 PM ET
Um. Fracking is literally snake oil.
- Jet Jaguar BD


No, you actually gain something of use from fracking. That it's dirty as fück doesn't take away from the fact you get use from it. Snake oil is just hope and dreams
Jet Jaguar BD
Seattle Kraken
Location: BD look 👀 at you pic and you look like a burned out short order cook hiding in mommy basement!!
Joined: 07.17.2021

Feb 7 @ 3:02 PM ET
Fwiw, been a loud supporter of his since the get go. It's why I post the "Waive UPL" all the time as I was repeatedly told that he would clear and, even if he didn't, it was in our best interest.
- QuinnFan

I was consistently saying UPL and Comrie should have started NHL and Levi AHL.

Some people just know
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Feb 7 @ 3:04 PM ET
Go back and I am literally the only one saying keep him, he might be goalie tage.
- Jet Jaguar BD


Wrong, many have said he's young and could still develop. He's going to have to play well for the rest of the season and then some to convince me he's any good. History is littered with Andrew Hammonds
Jet Jaguar BD
Seattle Kraken
Location: BD look 👀 at you pic and you look like a burned out short order cook hiding in mommy basement!!
Joined: 07.17.2021

Feb 7 @ 3:08 PM ET
No, you actually gain something of use from fracking. That it's dirty as fück doesn't take away from the fact you get use from it. Snake oil is just hope and dreams
- Wetbandit1

You don’t understand what it means…

Snake oil salesmen get rich selling promises. A fracking tycoon = snake oil saleman. The buyer = the poor towns with poisoned water, empty hotels and abandoned restaurants.

It’s a good comparison
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Feb 7 @ 3:09 PM ET
I was consistently saying UPL and Comrie should have started NHL and Levi AHL.

Some people just know

- Jet Jaguar BD


Smar boi.

Levi > Comrie though
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Feb 7 @ 3:11 PM ET
You don’t understand what it means…

Snake oil salesmen get rich selling promises. A fracking tycoon = snake oil saleman. The buyer = the poor towns with poisoned water, empty hotels and abandoned restaurants.

It’s a good comparison

- Jet Jaguar BD


Sure, but again, you get gas at the end of fracking, along with all the bad sh¡t. Gas is useful, we use it to generate power. You get nothing with snake oil except empty pockets.
Jet Jaguar BD
Seattle Kraken
Location: BD look 👀 at you pic and you look like a burned out short order cook hiding in mommy basement!!
Joined: 07.17.2021

Feb 7 @ 3:16 PM ET
Sure, but again, you get gas at the end of fracking, along with all the bad sh¡t. Gas is useful, we use it to generate power. You get nothing with snake oil except empty pockets.
- Wetbandit1

https://www.npr.org/secti...ory-of-snake-oil-salesmen
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Feb 7 @ 3:34 PM ET
What are the odds Dallas shuts us out?
- homiedclown

zero
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Feb 7 @ 3:41 PM ET
Sounds like the Sabres had some scouts at the Calgary/Boston game.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 7 @ 3:45 PM ET
Fwiw, been a loud supporter of his since the get go. It's why I post the "Waive UPL" all the time as I was repeatedly told that he would clear and, even if he didn't, it was in our best interest.
- QuinnFan


UPL with a .933 Sv% and people are still female doging.
How about scoring a friggin goal you choke artists.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Feb 7 @ 3:45 PM ET
Go back and I am literally the only one saying keep him, he might be goalie tage.
- Jet Jaguar BD



DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Feb 7 @ 3:46 PM ET
Sounds like the Sabres had some scouts at the Calgary/Boston game.
- Buff36


Don't we only have like 2 pro scouts?
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 7 @ 3:47 PM ET
Sounds like the Sabres had some scouts at the Calgary/Boston game.
- Buff36


Oh boy!!!!
Conversations about to be had...watch out.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Feb 7 @ 4:06 PM ET
Don't we only have like 2 pro scouts?
- DirtyDan

No, it's 3
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Feb 7 @ 4:13 PM ET
UPL with a .933 Sv% and people are still female doging.
How about scoring a friggin goal you choke artists.

- IonSabres


That game last night was so frustrating. He kept them in it, but Oettinger was just a maniac. Petey, Cozens and Dahlin were all over the place, I couldn't believe they couldn't pot one off those chances.

Then of course, first thing I see on my timeline is, "Can we get a save for once!"
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Feb 7 @ 4:14 PM ET
Oh boy!!!!
Conversations about to be had...watch out.

- IonSabres


Tanev discussions perhaps?
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