San Jose with a win last night moving into 31st place with 32 points. And they play ANA tonight. Maybe a 3 point game in the offing.

Hawks with 30 points in 50 games. On pace for 50 points for the season.

Tankathon, believe it or not, 2-1-1-1-1
- boilermaker100

1-3-3-1-2

1-3-3-1-2
- paulr

Celebrini or Eiserman
Lindstrom
A defenseman

Blackhawks choose…,,.
I am sure many pundits will say, Linddtrom before Eiserman

Wouldn’t it be something maybe almost an anomaly
If Yzerman chooses Eiserman

I lean pretty conservative in development, especially Dmen and goalies. I'd love to see Del Mastro and Allen spend 2 full yrs in RKF and go from there.

And KD has shown patience already. He put Vlasic in RKF for another yr last yr and the same with Reichel so really, a very good chance both Del Mastro and Allen do spend next yr in RKF too. Of course pending camp and one of them show you just can't send him down. In other words the prospect will decide where he plays depending on his play.
- Mr Ricochet

I agree Rico, i like how they have paired Del Mastro and Allan at Rockford. They are also roommates. So it would be really cool to see something like this work out where they come to camp in the summer and are a quality defensive pairing in the NHL next year. Or the following year.

San Jose with a win last night moving into 31st place with 32 points. And they play ANA tonight. Maybe a 3 point game in the offing.

Hawks with 30 points in 50 games. On pace for 50 points for the season.

Tankathon, believe it or not, 2-1-1-1-1
- boilermaker100

3-1-3-3-3

Must be because of my handle on here.

3-1-3-3-3

Must be because of my handle on here.
- 333inthe3rd

1-3-3-3-3

3,1,2,3,1

Pronman proves again his ears to other's opinions cement his opinions not eyes to the ice.

I am not talking about ranking as so many of his skills grades seem wonky.

You cannot tell me Beckett Sennecke is an average skater.

or Zeev Buium.

I know the cop-out is using the word average as it pertains to NHL average, but still I don't think either are that.

OK JimHawk 59 on Reichel:

I think that Bowman knew he wasn't picking low enough to get a guarantee and must have wanted a forward since he past on a Braden Schneider, and I guessed that forward was Dylan Holloway b/c the had scouts at Wisconsin a lot. Or maybe Kaiden Guhle was the defender they wanted, what do I know?

They became enamored by him on that over the pond NHL goodwill tour, but I don't think he was high on their draft list, that they expected some else to trickle down.

They saw he had really good jump decent enough size that he wasn't going to project small since there was room to add muscle and weight to his frame.

(I think the NHL players want to stay out side on the attack unless a true opening opens, and the coaches want them to constantly go to the middle.)

They saw how Reichel in an adult player league play with dominance in several areas. He was good as the F1 and also very good in the area wall behind the net and in side wall scrums, unearthing pucks and setting up looks from there. He also due to him being quick afoot in that league was really good and setting things up.
His stick-handling was very apparent.

So far the NHL has neutralized those strengths somewhat.

I have never had his talent, so I cannot put myself in his head after being a first round pick, getting selected #17 out of 224...but I bet the attention of that, the enormous attention it bought, he might have thought he was being groomed as a top two centre, and after his Rockford time(s) was "finally there."

They still are trying to get him to use his body and stick and feet TO get to the middle and also engage physically all over to get pucks, and they hope he get comfortable with NHL speed, but adds more engagement to is repertoire.

He's clearly a hockey player, but it has to eventually fall in place or he does fall to the wayside if cannot play the style this high-end talent starved unit expects him to, b/c there are not going to pay him for offense only. (Isn't that what the critique of Eiserman is, not paying for offense only? (No comparison meant by that last thing.)

Pronman proves again his ears to other's opinions cement his opinions not eyes to the ice.

I am not talking about ranking as so many of his skills grades seem wonky.

You cannot tell me Beckett Sennecke is an average skater.

or Zeev Buium.

I know the cop-out is using the word average as it pertains to NHL average, but still I don't think either are that.

OK JimHawk 59 on Reichel:

I think that Bowman knew he wasn't picking low enough to get a guarantee and must have wanted a forward since he past on a Braden Schneider, and I guessed that forward was Dylan Holloway b/c the had scouts at Wisconsin a lot. Or maybe Kaiden Guhle was the defender they wanted, what do I know?

They became enamored by him on that over the pond NHL goodwill tour, but I don't think he was high on their draft list, that they expected some else to trickle down.

They saw he had really good jump decent enough size that he wasn't going to project small since there was room to add muscle and weight to his frame.

(I think the NHL players want to stay out side on the attack unless a true opening opens, and the coaches want them to constantly go to the middle.)

They saw how Reichel in an adult player league play with dominance in several areas. He was good as the F1 and also very good in the area wall behind the net and in side wall scrums, unearthing pucks and setting up looks from there. He also due to him being quick afoot in that league was really good and setting things up.
His stick-handling was very apparent.

So far the NHL has neutralized those strengths somewhat.

I have never had his talent, so I cannot put myself in his head after being a first round pick, getting selected #17 out of 224...but I bet the attention of that, the enormous attention it bought, he might have thought he was being groomed as a top two centre, and after his Rockford time(s) was "finally there."

They still are trying to get him to use his body and stick and feet TO get to the middle and also engage physically all over to get pucks, and they hope he get comfortable with NHL speed, but adds more engagement to is repertoire.

He's clearly a hockey player, but it has to eventually fall in place or he does fall to the wayside if cannot play the style this high-end talent starved unit expects him to, b/c there are not going to pay him for offense only. (Isn't that what the critique of Eiserman is, not paying for offense only? (No comparison meant by that last thing.)
- wiz1901

I hope they stick with Reichel and I hope he continues to improve his backchecking skills.

Boston U (Celebrini, Greene) vs Northeastern tonight 5:30 Central on ESPNU.
- boilermaker100

Gotta chime in again and say thanks for the info, BM. These kinds of things are helpful.

KD's done the same with Kaiser as well. Considering how defensively oriented the coach and assistants are, I'm very optimistic that they know what they need and what they are looking for.

This is kind of why I think they've soured on Phillips. Not really because I think he's not good, but how they are handling him. He's been kept up and not played quite a few times. He's played better in the past couple games, so we'll see how it goes.
- Chunk

I forgot to add Kaiser to the handful of players KD and Crew has shown they are/will be patient with prospects...... And yes, count me as very comfortable with how the organIzation has, and is, handling the D prospects even though I'm a Phillips fan. And even with him, he's scratched for 3-4-5 games, comes back and shows NO fear, NO hesitation! Tells me he's being coached well.

Pronman proves again his ears to other's opinions cement his opinions not eyes to the ice.

I am not talking about ranking as so many of his skills grades seem wonky.

You cannot tell me Beckett Sennecke is an average skater.

or Zeev Buium.

I know the cop-out is using the word average as it pertains to NHL average, but still I don't think either are that.

OK JimHawk 59 on Reichel:

I think that Bowman knew he wasn't picking low enough to get a guarantee and must have wanted a forward since he past on a Braden Schneider, and I guessed that forward was Dylan Holloway b/c the had scouts at Wisconsin a lot. Or maybe Kaiden Guhle was the defender they wanted, what do I know?

They became enamored by him on that over the pond NHL goodwill tour, but I don't think he was high on their draft list, that they expected some else to trickle down.

They saw he had really good jump decent enough size that he wasn't going to project small since there was room to add muscle and weight to his frame.

(I think the NHL players want to stay out side on the attack unless a true opening opens, and the coaches want them to constantly go to the middle.)

They saw how Reichel in an adult player league play with dominance in several areas. He was good as the F1 and also very good in the area wall behind the net and in side wall scrums, unearthing pucks and setting up looks from there. He also due to him being quick afoot in that league was really good and setting things up.
His stick-handling was very apparent.

So far the NHL has neutralized those strengths somewhat.

I have never had his talent, so I cannot put myself in his head after being a first round pick, getting selected #17 out of 224...but I bet the attention of that, the enormous attention it bought, he might have thought he was being groomed as a top two centre, and after his Rockford time(s) was "finally there."

They still are trying to get him to use his body and stick and feet TO get to the middle and also engage physically all over to get pucks, and they hope he get comfortable with NHL speed, but adds more engagement to is repertoire.

He's clearly a hockey player, but it has to eventually fall in place or he does fall to the wayside if cannot play the style this high-end talent starved unit expects him to, b/c there are not going to pay him for offense only. (Isn't that what the critique of Eiserman is, not paying for offense only? (No comparison meant by that last thing.)
- wiz1901

Beckett Sennecke is a very good skater, fast, agile, good balance, not a great first step though. He’s also pretty physical and will play in the tough areas on the ice. Allot of people at the Tribute Centre say he’s grown 5 or 6 inches in height in the last two years so maybe he can develop more quickness as he grows into his body?

Gotta chime in again and say thanks for the info, BM. These kinds of things are helpful.
- Mr Ricochet

Uh, I posted that yesterday. The game was Tuesday night. NE wins in OT 4-3. Greene with an assist and the game tying goal with a minute left in regulation.

Pronman proves again his ears to other's opinions cement his opinions not eyes to the ice.

I am not talking about ranking as so many of his skills grades seem wonky.

You cannot tell me Beckett Sennecke is an average skater.

or Zeev Buium.

I know the cop-out is using the word average as it pertains to NHL average, but still I don't think either are that.


- wiz1901

Wiz, I've been reading Pronman for a few yrs now and it didn't take long to conclude he doesn't see, or rank, skating the way I do. It is subjective but I have thought Pronman's evaluation of skating is off and I say that believing he has eyes on these kids.

Like anything else, let the buyer beware. If you take any evaluator's opinion hook line and sinker you absorb his/hers biases. ....... You Tube is your friend.

Uh, I posted that yesterday. The game was Tuesday night. NE wins in OT 4-3. Greene with an assist and the game tying goal with a minute left in regulation.
- boilermaker100

I know, but didn't have time to post yesterday. Just wanna say thanks for those helpful links and bits of info.

Sportnets new draft rankings. Looks like someone put the name in a basket and randomly picked them out. Cayden Lindstrom, who was #2 on many draft lists two weeks ago dropped to 14, the defensemen moved up and Eiserman is still in the top 10.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...s-for-the-2024-nhl-draft/

Sportnets new draft rankings. Looks like someone put the name in a basket and randomly picked them out. Cayden Lindstrom, who was #2 on many draft lists two weeks ago dropped to 14, the defensemen moved up and Eiserman is still in the top 10.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...s-for-the-2024-nhl-draft/
- paulr

Didn't you know, getting injured robs you of your skill, talent, and hockey IQ.

Hey, the Hawks certainly need goal scorers...

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/ve...nhl-this-season-1.2069846

@frank_seravalli


Full trade:

To #Flames :
2024 1st Rd Pick
Cond. 2024 4th Rd Pick
Andrei Kuzmenko
Joni Jurmo
Hunter Brzustewicz

To #Canucks :
Elias Lindholm

Sportnets new draft rankings. Looks like someone put the name in a basket and randomly picked them out. Cayden Lindstrom, who was #2 on many draft lists two weeks ago dropped to 14, the defensemen moved up and Eiserman is still in the top 10.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...s-for-the-2024-nhl-draft/
- paulr

As I only have one more profile to have the entire top 32 done I was thinking how
they both skate well,
Kirby Dach and Cayden Lindstrom are both big but they sort of counter opposites.
Dach had high end hockey sense and puck skills, but Lindstrom has a high end shot and compete.

I am not sure that is a fair assessment b/c we haven't see Lindstrom in the bigs yet.

You are going to see little consensus after Celebrini....there is the entire Canada junior schedule and then some prospects will continue playing in the Memorial Cup, and some many will make up the World Junior Under.

Teams may have some idea where the direction they kids are going, but they know there is plenty time to change what your feeling about them are.
and I am sure it most be really tough to figure out that huge list of 32 players at sport net.

Here in my seven rounder.

https://www.lines.com/nhl/drafts

Attn: Those who root for Turcotte LA Kings

He is in lineup (replacing who?) and scored his first goal vs Nashville

OH, btw, Alex Turcotte got a goal and assist for the Kings tonight...

OH, btw, Alex Turcotte got a goal and assist for the Kings tonight...
- wiz1901

He’s almost caught Reichel in scoring.

He’s almost caught Reichel in scoring.
- DarthKane

They’ll start showing Reichel film of Turcotte on how to play. 😂

@frank_seravalli


Full trade:

To #Flames :
2024 1st Rd Pick
Cond. 2024 4th Rd Pick
Andrei Kuzmenko
Joni Jurmo
Hunter Brzustewicz

To #Canucks :
Elias Lindholm
- DarthKane

And that moots the discussion here about Kuzmenko. Will be interesting to see if he can turn his season around and next in Calgary and then the Flames get a good return for him at the next deadline.

@frank_seravalli


Full trade:

To #Flames :
2024 1st Rd Pick
Cond. 2024 4th Rd Pick
Andrei Kuzmenko
Joni Jurmo
Hunter Brzustewicz

To #Canucks :
Elias Lindholm
- DarthKane

So much for he probably would ok a trade to a non playoff bound team...