Do you take a home run hitter like a Mike Bossy or take the safe pick in a Dwight Foster?

Hey Chicago
What do you know the Blackhawks are going
Score a goal today

Actually will be a few more days
Prediction we score in first period

They take the best player available, period.
- DarthKane

Unless they're a Russian.

Unless they're a Russian.
- HawkintheD

Hi, Ogi....

Hi, Ogi....
- mohel

People used to get banned for posts like this.

Comparing Dach and Lindstrom on its face is fair. Both big centers who can skate. But if you dig further the comparison ends with big and can skate as you are pointing out, Wiz.

Dach is a fluid, balanced more classical plus skater. Lindstrom is a different good skater. He has explosion in his feet that Dach does not have. A dynamic/explosive aspect to his skating therefore to his game. .. He's near full speed in 3 steps where it takes 6-7-8 strides for Dach to get to speed.

Lindstrom's hands are more dynamic too as is his shot. He's a quick twitch athlete whereas Dach is not.

And I agree, Dach is more cerebral but Lindstrom has much better compete and plays more physical. ...... A lazy evaluation would be Dach has a higher floor but Lindstrom a higher ceiling.

Reminds me of Vlasic and the 6ft 7in Cossack, Silayev. Vlasic is a beautiful balanced skater, the Cossack has explosion in his feet. The beast is near full speed in a few strides. Easy to see why evaluators salivate over the monster.

And indeed, after Celebrini the hockey world is all over the place. In theory that means opportunity. Like a Cooley or Benson type falling. Add many are scared off by any Russian and there is a real possibility value falls into your lap or to a point you can trade up like I wondered in real time last yr as Benson fell.
- Mr Ricochet

I think with the sheer number of picks and getting the sure thing in Bedard they can afford to try to get a unicorn in Lindstrom assuming they don't pick first.

Unless they're a Russian.
- HawkintheD

I thought it was the Danish we had to avoid in the draft?

I think with the sheer number of picks and getting the sure thing in Bedard they can afford to try to get a unicorn in Lindstrom assuming they don't pick first.
- fattybeef

Who to pick if we draft second or third or even fourth/5th should Lindstrom still be on the board

Best player available! Really whose list do you go with because there could be divergence of opinion on who is best player…..Then too….best available talent that is oh say as predicted best talent in three or more years down the road?

Now I believe that KD and staff will not fail due diligance. But they could easily absolutely love two players and they play different positions

Personally if not Celebrini I would be happy selecting Eiserman

I get the feeling as I bet many on this board do as well, the odds is Lidstrom or a dman slots # 2-5.

Nonetheless final ratings even by wiz just seem to leave us in an on ongoing debate/quandry who to select

Maybe KD and staff have a couple pow wow meetings and try to imagine the team with any one of 2-3 choices. They settle on______ only to see him plucked right in front of their own slot. So we wind up with__________.

I could just say Go figure

Except right up to the actual drafting we still cannot quite say either whom is best or whom we think they draft

Who to pick if we draft second or third or even fourth/5th should Lindstrom still be on the board

Best player available! Really whose list do you go with because there could be divergence of opinion on who is best player…..Then too….best available talent that is oh say as predicted best talent in three or more years down the road?

Now I believe that KD and staff will not fail due diligance. But they could easily absolutely love two players and they play different positions

Personally if not Celebrini I would be happy selecting Eiserman

I get the feeling as I bet many on this board do as well, the odds is Lidstrom or a dman slots # 2-5.

Nonetheless final ratings even by wiz just seem to leave us in an on ongoing debate/quandry who to select

Maybe KD and staff have a couple pow wow meetings and try to imagine the team with any one of 2-3 choices. They settle on______ only to see him plucked right in front of their own slot. So we wind up with__________.

I could just say Go figure

Except right up to the actual drafting we still cannot quite say either whom is best or whom we think they draft
- jhawk59

I’m thinking that the Hawks will draft whoever is on top of their list JHawk. I have to admit, I do like the Lindstrom kid, if they pick 2nd-5th and he’s still on the board, I’d grab him. Bedard and Lindstrom up the middle and Nazar and Moore on the wings, plus whomever else they acquire through trades, draft, or free agency and the big boys on the backend.

Who to pick if we draft second or third or even fourth/5th should Lindstrom still be on the board

Best player available! Really whose list do you go with because there could be divergence of opinion on who is best player…..Then too….best available talent that is oh say as predicted best talent in three or more years down the road?

Now I believe that KD and staff will not fail due diligance. But they could easily absolutely love two players and they play different positions

Personally if not Celebrini I would be happy selecting Eiserman

I get the feeling as I bet many on this board do as well, the odds is Lidstrom or a dman slots # 2-5.

Nonetheless final ratings even by wiz just seem to leave us in an on ongoing debate/quandry who to select

Maybe KD and staff have a couple pow wow meetings and try to imagine the team with any one of 2-3 choices. They settle on______ only to see him plucked right in front of their own slot. So we wind up with__________.

I could just say Go figure

Except right up to the actual drafting we still cannot quite say either whom is best or whom we think they draft
- jhawk59

Yeah man it's a tough job for sure.

I’m thinking that the Hawks will draft whoever is on top of their list JHawk. I have to admit, I do like the Lindstrom kid, if they pick 2nd-5th and he’s still on the board, I’d grab him. Bedard and Lindstrom up the middle and Nazar and Moore on the wings, plus whomever else they acquire through trades, draft, or free agency and the big boys on the backend.
- Angotti

If he's best available then i say yes, but if not you've got someone ranked higher than him gotta take the other player. Failed draft picks happen because teams draft based on need.

If he's best available then i say yes, but if not you've got someone ranked higher than him gotta take the other player. Failed draft picks happen because teams draft based on need.
- BetweenTheDots

If the Hawks draft 4-5 I wonder if they move down in the draft to get more picks/assets?

If the Hawks draft 4-5 I wonder if they move down in the draft to get more picks/assets?
- DarthKane

I don't think so, but i do think Levshunov is a guy they would be happy to fall to them if they were drafting 4 or 5th, maybe even Parekh?

I believe KD is going to try to move up in the 1st round trading the Bolts pick and a 2nd round pick.

If he's best available then i say yes, but if not you've got someone ranked higher than him gotta take the other player. Failed draft picks happen because teams draft based on need.
- BetweenTheDots

I agree. However, draft picks fail for a myriad of reasons; over-drafting is but one.

I don't think so, but i do think Levshunov is a guy they would be happy to fall to them if they were drafting 4 or 5th, maybe even Parekh?

I believe KD is going to try to move up in the 1st round trading the Bolts pick and a 2nd round pick.
- BetweenTheDots

I would definitely try to move up even one spot ….it could mean drafting the kid you want most. After the lottery order is determined then will know whether want to pursue the earliest pick. Wouldn’t it be something if we could keep the Tampa first and instead give them 2nd this year, 2nd next year and Phillips (sorry Phillips’ fans)

If the Hawks draft 4-5 I wonder if they move down in the draft to get more picks/assets?
- DarthKane

If the Hawks draft 4-5, I hope they package that pick and a 1st next year to get Celebrini. Otherwise, if they don't want to make the pick, send it to someone for an established young player. Quantity for the sake of quantity is over. They've picked up three drafts worth of prospects in the last two years and have a poop ton more the next three years.

If the Hawks draft 4-5, I hope they package that pick and a 1st next year to get Celebrini. Otherwise, if they don't want to make the pick, send it to someone for an established young player. Quantity for the sake of quantity is over. They've picked up three drafts worth of prospects in the last two years and have a poop ton more the next three years.
- Chunk

And they still need several outstanding players to build a contender. Of the kids, they have a forward and a defenseman who are pretty certain to meet that description. None of the rest have proven squat. Until they do, they gotta keep high picks and aim for studs. Imo.

I agree. However, draft picks fail for a myriad of reasons; over-drafting is but one.
- mohel

mohel’s word of the day. And using the phrase “is but one” is very Shakespearean. Well done care amice.

https://twitter.com/Pierr...8GetugepePFftGWJudRA&s=19

Still not finalized, still details to be worked out, but all indications are that the Montreal Canadiens are trading Sean Monahan to the Winnipeg Jets

If the Hawks draft 4-5, I hope they package that pick and a 1st next year to get Celebrini. Otherwise, if they don't want to make the pick, send it to someone for an established young player. Quantity for the sake of quantity is over. They've picked up three drafts worth of prospects in the last two years and have a poop ton more the next three years.
- Chunk

I like and team needs quality over quantity as you point out. Strong possibility team drafting first will not consider trading down. There is hope possibly if the other GM wants someone else too For example to draft Lindstrom or a dman. So how much is an overpay. Is the Tampa pick, a 2nd and one of our prospects worth it? Depends which prospect? Do you concede a #1 ‘25 if there is no other way?

If the Hawks draft 4-5, I hope they package that pick and a 1st next year to get Celebrini. Otherwise, if they don't want to make the pick, send it to someone for an established young player. Quantity for the sake of quantity is over. They've picked up three drafts worth of prospects in the last two years and have a poop ton more the next three years.
- Chunk

I don't think anyone is giving Celebrini away for picks.
I do agree that they should try and package it for a good young player though. Just not sure who they could pry away from another team.

mohel’s word of the day. And using the phrase “is but one” is very Shakespearean. Well done care amice.
- paulr

Just trying to keep the American language alive, mon ami.

https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/1753443536928645627?t=Dc8GetugepePFftGWJudRA&s=19

Still not finalized, still details to be worked out, but all indications are that the Montreal Canadiens are trading Sean Monahan to the Winnipeg Jets
- captainserious

Jets get better and is a sleeper darkhorse with good goaltender

Dallas reportedly will be looking to add. Their biggest concern though had to be Ottinger is going to play well. Possibly don’t trust Suter

The Minny Wild just not quite good enough even if no injuries? Can LA Kings wake up and will Edmonton beat just about anyone I don’t know in a grueling second or third round that Edmonton old issues come to light again. Is Colorado having enough compete in bottom lines. Can they be beaten by an extremely tough checking team and does their goaltending hold up?

Who are your top two teams out of Western Conference

If the Hawks draft 4-5, I hope they package that pick and a 1st next year to get Celebrini. Otherwise, if they don't want to make the pick, send it to someone for an established young player. Quantity for the sake of quantity is over. They've picked up three drafts worth of prospects in the last two years and have a poop ton more the next three years.
- Chunk

If you want to do that with 2nd round picks fine, when it comes to 1st round picks especially the top 5, most pros come out of this group period. No trading it away, best available and you move on. Trust your scouting department trust your eyes and don't get tunnel vision, i should say "most effective pros"

If the Hawks draft 4-5, I hope they package that pick and a 1st next year to get Celebrini. Otherwise, if they don't want to make the pick, send it to someone for an established young player. Quantity for the sake of quantity is over. They've picked up three drafts worth of prospects in the last two years and have a poop ton more the next three years.
- Chunk

I got curious when you mentioned this and it looks like the last time an NHL team traded the 1st overall pick was 20 years ago.

There doesn't seem to be any recent articles but I did find this:
https://grantland.com/the...rading-the-nhls-top-pick/

It kinda looks like it almost never works out for the team trading that 1st overall except maybe the Quebec/Philly Lindros deal.