We can assess a player after one shift, it’s you Canadians that like to over analyze and wait longer on a player.
- Angotti

So it’s a Nationality thing is it?

I'm half way through reading 'Draft Day' by Doug MacLean. Interesting stuff. A couple of tidbits:

The Blackhawks were the Lindros family's top choice in the Quebec/Lindros auction, primarily because Mike Keenan had chosen Lindros for the 1991 Canada Cup team, and Eric wanted to play for him and in the big Chicago market. However, Chicago fell out when Dollar Bill wouldn't include any cash in the deal.

Also, legendary Montreal Canadien GM Sam Pollock had an unwritten rule to not trade a player until after a prospect's 23rd birthday. (food for thought for the young player evaluations by the BOD)
- scottak

Pollock was the greatest GM ever in the NHL. He was playing 3d chess and the other gms of his age were playing checkers

https://theathletic.com/5...ource=user-shared-article

Why Crawford retired

Pollock was the greatest GM ever in the NHL. He was playing 3d chess and the other gms of his age were playing checkers
- wizardofi

He was given built in advantages such as hacving first pick out of quebec juniors.

Non paywall version of Crawfords retirement https://theathletic.com/5...ource=user-shared-article

So it’s a Nationality thing is it?
- paulr

Nah, Darth can assess a player during warmups….

Looks like Savoie has recovered fairly well from his broken leg. 2 assists in 3 games at Rouyn-Noranda of the QMJHL.
- boilermaker100

Best news i've heard a while about this team. There is something to that kid that you can't teach.

Non paywall version of Crawfords retirement https://theathletic.com/5...ource=user-shared-article
- wizardofi

Nope

We can assess a player after one shift, it’s you Canadians that like to over analyze and wait longer on a player.
- Angotti

Not true, eh. Take off, you hoser!

how many shifts do you need to see of Tinordi, Megna, Sanford, Blackwell or Anderson to know they suck?

Speaking of Anderson, member when some wanted to re-sign him?
- Elbows15

Aren't they all over 23? Pollock's strategy was not to give up on a prospect until they've had time to sufficiently develop and mature.

Aren't they all over 23? Pollock's strategy was not to give up on a prospect until they've had time to sufficiently develop and mature.
- scottak

Well, he might've been a fine GM but he would've made a horrible poster around these parts. If you're unable to label a player a bust as soon as said player's name escapes Bettmman's lips from the podium, what good are ya?

Aren't they all over 23? Pollock's strategy was not to give up on a prospect until they've had time to sufficiently develop and mature.
- scottak

That's how i feel, do everything you can to develop them, try to put them on the best path for that individual.

I tell you Faber is looking really good for the Wild and it looks like Clarke is struggling at the NHL level. You never know. Just think what the Kings could get for Faber now? But that GM was in a hurry. He's traded some very nice pieces, 3 guys I'm thinking about have more points then PLD, 2 of them are defenseman and with a combined salary of all 3 players make less than him, hahaha

That's how i feel, do everything you can to develop them, try to put them on the best path for that individual.

I tell you Faber is looking really good for the Wild and it looks like Clarke is struggling at the NHL level. You never know. Just think what the Kings could get for Faber now? But that GM was in a hurry. He's traded some very nice pieces, 3 guys I'm thinking about have more points then PLD, 2 of them are defenseman and with a combined salary make less than him, hahaha
- BetweenTheDots

Was reading in The Athletic the other day that one of the reasons Korchinski stayed up with the Hawks instead of going back to jrs was they didn’t want him playing late into the playoffs there but instead wanted to have him start conditioning and doing strength training as soon as the Hawks season ends.

Was reading in The Athletic the other day that one of the reasons Korchinski stayed up with the Hawks instead of going back to jrs was they didn’t want him playing late into the playoffs there but instead wanted to have him start conditioning and doing strength training as soon as the Hawks season ends.
- HawkintheD

I thought the Blackhawks staff would be worried about making the playoffs?

That's how i feel, do everything you can to develop them, try to put them on the best path for that individual.

I tell you Faber is looking really good for the Wild and it looks like Clarke is struggling at the NHL level. You never know. Just think what the Kings could get for Faber now? But that GM was in a hurry. He's traded some very nice pieces, 3 guys I'm thinking about have more points then PLD, 2 of them are defenseman and with a combined salary of all 3 players make less than him, hahaha
- BetweenTheDots

He felt he had a chance at the Cup, and seemingly went for it. Its a decision each GM has to make, he made it, time will tell if that was a mistake.

Lesson here is, when you think and tell everyone that your guy is making the smartest rebuild path, process, strategy and moves, don't assume in Nov and Dec that he's doing the right way until your captain is skating around the ice with the cup over his head at the end of the season.

And I'm saying that for every team and their GM, including KD. Just because he is doing it how i would do it, doesn't make it right.

He felt he had a chance at the Cup, and seemingly went for it. It’s a decision each GM has to make, he made it, time will tell if that was a mistake.

Lesson here is, when you think and tell everyone that your guy is making the smartest rebuild path, process, strategy and moves, don't assume in Nov and Dec that he's doing the right way until your captain is skating around the ice with the cup over his head at the end of the season.

And I'm saying that for every team and their GM, including KD. Just because he is doing it how i would do it, doesn't make it right.
- vabeachbear

The Kings fell into the same trap as Chicago and Tampa. They saw a few good years from their top players, Doughty and Kopitar, even though their best days are behind them and tried to give it one final push for a championship sacrificing young talent and or draft picks along the way. KD may one day be in a position to give up on young talent to try to win or try to continue winning.

One thing Sam Pollock wasn’t afraid to do was move a player in his prime, a player fans loved when he felt that player was just about in decline for draft picks or young blue chip prospects. Takes huge balls to do.

We can assess a player after one shift, it’s you Canadians that like to over analyze and wait longer on a player.
- Angotti

Pre game skate is all it takes.

The Kings fell into the same trap as Chicago and Tampa. They saw a few good years from their top players, Doughty and Kopitar, even though their best days are behind them and tried to give it one final push for a championship sacrificing young talent and or draft picks along the way. KD may one day be in a position to give up on young talent to try to win or try to continue winning.

One thing Sam Pollock wasn’t afraid to do was move a player in his prime, a player fans loved when he felt that player was just about in decline for draft picks or young blue chip prospects. Takes huge balls to do.
- paulr

I still think that PLD trade will be one they regret for a long time

I still think that PLD trade will be one they regret for a long time
- vabeachbear

Dumb trade for sure. Blake looked at the skill and size and forgot about the 10 cent brain.

That's how i feel, do everything you can to develop them, try to put them on the best path for that individual.

I tell you Faber is looking really good for the Wild and it looks like Clarke is struggling at the NHL level. You never know. Just think what the Kings could get for Faber now? But that GM was in a hurry. He's traded some very nice pieces, 3 guys I'm thinking about have more points then PLD, 2 of them are defenseman and with a combined salary of all 3 players make less than him, hahaha
- BetweenTheDots

The flip side is Turcotte. Holding onto a prospect for a long time has the downside of decreasing his trade value. Ideally a GM decides which of his prospects will pan out; keeps them and trades the other before the rest of the league catches on.

13 years ago this vital piece of the 2013 championship team was acquired.

via GIPHY

The flip side is Turcotte. Holding onto a prospect for a long time has the downside of decreasing his trade value. Ideally a GM decides which of his prospects will pan out; keeps them and trades the other before the rest of the league catches on.
- mohel

And KD will have to make that decision on a defenseman or two in the near future.

The flip side is Turcotte. Holding onto a prospect for a long time has the downside of decreasing his trade value. Ideally a GM decides which of his prospects will pan out; keeps them and trades the other before the rest of the league catches on.
- mohel

Well i think this is going to happen, many of these GM's outsmart themselves, i take the loss because it's worth the risk, but i also would of kept Faber, Durzi, Vilardi, and others, i would of told my vets thank you for 2 cups and please be good examples for the young players.

It's nice that the Kings are winning but let's say they win the Cup, than i say it's worth it, but at the same time if you don't, your old players are only getting older and now you have holes to fill, while you have been trading away young prospects and draft picks?

As Rico said its hard to be the GM, i do like KDs path hopefully he hits all the right buttons.

And KD will have to make that decision on a defenseman or two in the near future.
- Angotti

I think Phillips is making that decision easier for him.

I think Phillips is making that decision easier for him.
- BetweenTheDots

He needs to show improvement and that includes his decision making when to take forays He is trying to play more physical. Let us see how he might improve the remainder of this season. Play just well enough then he may play more and a veteran is scratched. Murphy being out much longer is also
providing opportunity on defense.

None of the prospects in Rockford will get more than a cup of coffee this year Phillips needs to take advantage of playing time by performing better. Playing well