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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Feb 9 @ 9:31 PM ET
Crevier was in position to make a play he just didn't. I will give him that
- BetweenTheDots

No, he wasn't. He was trying to get off the ice or go help the forward but the puck was lost before he could get there after he made a good play to get the puck out of the zone while they were down a man.

Just ice the puck. Katchouk is useless without a blade.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Feb 9 @ 9:33 PM ET
The puck bounced to the opposite side he was on so he couldn't make the play, Richardinson and Crevier kind of watched at that point almost not knowing what to do.
- BetweenTheDots

He had the first opportunity to do something with it and lost a board battle as usual.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 9 @ 9:33 PM ET
No, he wasn't. He was trying to get off the ice or go help the forward but the puck was lost before he could get there after he made a good play to get the puck out of the zone while they were down a man.

Just ice the puck. Katchouk is useless without a blade.

- Elbows15


If you watch the replay Crevier did get in positron just didn't defend the pass to the goal scorer.

I know you have a hard on for Raddysh but he never had a chance to ice the puck
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 9 @ 9:37 PM ET
Its great to have this thing where i can rewatch the play yea Elbows your wrong
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Feb 9 @ 9:37 PM ET
6th and 7th round picks can't be bust. That is reserved for the 7th pick in the 1st round. Get it right.
- Elbows15


Fair enough but I'll give him more than a season or two. If 55 ends up being a top 4 dman which isn't out of the question I'd hardly call that a bust.

I know you labelled Mitchell one which didn't exactly work out and I never heard you extolling the virtues of Vlasic panning out the way he has so far...so I think I'll give Korbustski a bit more rope.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Feb 9 @ 9:38 PM ET
If you watch the replay Crevier did get in positron just didn't defend the pass to the goal scorer.

I know you have a hard on for Raddysh but he never had a chance to ice the puck

- BetweenTheDots

Raddysh never has a chance is right. He sucks.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 9 @ 9:39 PM ET
Raddysh never has a chance is right. He sucks.
- Elbows15


You're like my kids, double down when you're wrong
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Feb 9 @ 9:40 PM ET
Fair enough but I'll give him more than a season or two. If 55 ends cup being a top 4 dman which isn't out of the question I'd hardly call that a bust.

I know you labelled Mitchell one which didn't exactly work out and I never heard you extolling the virtues of Vlasic panning out the way he has so far...so I think I'll give Korbustski a bit more rope.

- HawkintheD

For a 7th pick? He is Gus without the offense.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Feb 9 @ 9:41 PM ET
You're like my kids, double down when you're wrong
- BetweenTheDots

Except you are wrong. Always.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Feb 9 @ 9:43 PM ET
For a 7th pick? He is Gus without the offense.
- Elbows15


Yep...he has no chance to become anything more than he is today as a 19 year old dman.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 9 @ 9:43 PM ET
Except you are wrong. Always.
- Elbows15


Again you sound my kids
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Feb 9 @ 9:45 PM ET
Raddysh was defending on the wrong side of the Ranger player and lost the puck battle, Katchouk had a broken skate blade and was being pushed toward the bench by Phillips and Crevier was playing up high in the zone. The whole play was a mess because of Katchouk’s skate problem. But Phillips probably shouldn’t have tried helping him off the ice.

On the first goal there wasn’t much pressure from the forwards and all five Blackhawks stood around watching the Rangers pass the puck around. Korbustsky failed to pick up Lafreniere at the hash marks.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Feb 9 @ 9:45 PM ET
Yep...he has no chance to become anything more than he is today as a 19 year old dman.
- HawkintheD

Doesn't have the talent. chance has nothing to do with it.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Feb 9 @ 9:48 PM ET
Raddysh was defending on the wrong side of the Ranger player and lost the puck battle, Katchouk had a broken skate blade and was being pushed toward the bench by Phillips and Crevier was playing up high in the zone. The whole play was a mess because of Katchouk’s skate problem. But Phillips probably shouldn’t have tried helping him off the ice.

On the first goal there wasn’t much pressure from the forwards and all five Blackhawks stood around watching the Rangers pass the puck around. Korbustsky failed to pick up Lafreniere at the hash marks.

- paulr

Phillips has to help him. Else he can't get off the ice in any amount of time. Raddysh had a chance just whack the puck but chose to try to pin it against the boards where he lost a board battle, again.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 9 @ 9:50 PM ET
Phillips has to help him. Else he can't get off the ice in any amount of time. Raddysh had a chance just whack the puck but chose to try to pin it against the boards where he lost a board battle, again.
- Elbows15


If you watch the replay Raddysh had no chance to do what you say
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Feb 9 @ 9:54 PM ET
If you watch the replay Raddysh had no chance to do what you say
- BetweenTheDots

I did watch it. Three times. And yes, he did.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 9 @ 9:54 PM ET
I did watch it. Three times. And yes, he did.
- Elbows15


Glad you aren't scouting players
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Feb 9 @ 9:55 PM ET
Megna is worse than Tinordi and that is saying something.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Feb 9 @ 9:55 PM ET
Glad you aren't scouting players
- BetweenTheDots

There is your boy Raddysh again just sucking up the ice.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Feb 9 @ 9:56 PM ET
Doesn't have the talent. chance has nothing to do with it.
- Elbows15


I'll point to Vlasic again. He was a big body who can skate. Even before the season he was identified as a guy who "might play NHL games" when they did the prospect rankings in The Athletic.

Seems he's developed into a bit more than that. In the end maybe you're right, but given the state of the team, not sure there's any rush to judge.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Feb 9 @ 9:58 PM ET
Phillips has to help him. Else he can't get off the ice in any amount of time. Raddysh had a chance just whack the puck but chose to try to pin it against the boards where he lost a board battle, again.
- Elbows15

If the Hawks had possession yes, help Katchouk off the ice. But once the Rangers have possession in the Hawk’s zone Phillip’s focus should have been on defending his position. Like you I see the initial breakdown in the neutral zone by Raddysh but it was compounded by Phillips’ decision to help Katchouk off the ice.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Feb 9 @ 9:59 PM ET
I'll point to Vlasic again. He was a big body who can skate. Even before the season he was identified as a guy who "might play NHL games" when they did the prospect rankings in The Athletic.

Seems he's developed into a bit more than that. In the end maybe you're right, but given the state of the team, not sure there's any rush to judge.

- HawkintheD

Not sure what the two have to do with one another but whatever. Its my opinion. Agree or disagree. IDC one way or another.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Feb 9 @ 10:02 PM ET
If the Hawks had possession yes, help Katchouk off the ice. But once the Rangers have possession in the Hawk’s zone Phillip’s focus should have been on defending his position. Like you I see the initial breakdown in the neutral zone by Raddysh but it was compounded by Phillips’ decision to help Katchouk off the ice.
- paulr


Phillips stopped pushing as soon as the puck was turned over. He has no one in the zone with him when the puck entered the zone. Maybe he thought his guy could win a board battle for once in his life. That was his mistake.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Feb 9 @ 10:04 PM ET
Like the way Jones is playing tonight.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Feb 9 @ 10:09 PM ET
Not sure what the two have to do with one another but whatever. Its my opinion. Agree or disagree. IDC one way or another.
- Elbows15


Just pointing out that the book isn't completely written but yeah...ditto.
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