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HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Feb 26 @ 12:06 PM ET
I would be surprised if Blackwell's not moved. He has surprised since returning, and he certainly looks hungry out there.

91 will be tougher to move with that cap hit.

90 also will be tougher to move, but I get the impression that if he is dealt, it will be a "for the player" trade, perhaps to Tampa. They would probably need a third team to broker for him and for 91.

I would guess Raddysh is the likeliest cheap cap hit to be moved after Blackwell. Otherwise, it's a matter of whether or not any fill a specific need for a contender.

- 333inthe3rd


Not sure who'd want him. Forgot about Beauvlier's contract so maybe next TDL
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Feb 26 @ 12:12 PM ET
Not sure who'd want him. Forgot about Beauvlier's contract so maybe next TDL
- HawkintheD

It’s too bad Raddysh’s game fell apart. I was hoping he could build on last season and be a valuable asset to trade.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Feb 26 @ 12:19 PM ET
LOL... Dude you need to put away your sour grapes crack pipe. Yeah... because guys like Seider, Larkin, DeBrincat, Kane, Raymond, they're all just terrible. No talent there whatsoever (insert sarcasm). Wait until our top prospects of Edvinsson, Danielson, Berggren, Kasper, Axel Sandin-Pelikka, Mazur, etc... start to crack the lineup. Then things will get really interesting. Yzerman is one of the most astute GM's in the league and he's building this team the right way.

Ken Holland left this team an absolute dumpster fire when Yzerman took over 5 years ago. Team was in salary cap hell and crappy players. Yzerman has completely retooled this roster. 50% of the current players were not on the team last season. The Wings are a team on the rise... so you may want to start living in reality.

- Vladdie_Kon1

I really wish Chicago had Yzerman, he’s so great, astute, a visionary, all knowing and most importantly he can do no wrong.
LFS
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.08.2021

Feb 26 @ 12:19 PM ET
I was talking about the hawk’s lack of talent, moron
Vladdie_Kon1
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Joined: 04.21.2007

Feb 26 @ 12:24 PM ET
I was talking about the hawk’s lack of talent, moron
- LFS


I deleted my last post I as misread the earlier post you made. Thought you were talking about the Wings.

Lighten up Francis... don't get your panties in a wad. LOL
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Feb 26 @ 12:25 PM ET
It’s too bad Raddysh’s game fell apart. I was hoping he could build on last season and be a valuable asset to trade.
- paulr


Well, after the Lightning ponied up TWO first rounders for Hagal's cheap Cap hit, TB certainly knew what they were sending in the ready made former Eire otters in Raddysh & Katouck .
I too was very intrigued and have hoped the time here was going to be qualitative jump in production and performance with the extar ice time, but it's hasn't beena ride on glory road.
I have to give it to the staff on how each and every hawk (even a they has diminished inferiority in various parts of the their individual games, this present team sticks to the style, and now knows where they position with each other and it has shown a little shade of light through the cracks, in the defeats...but after thinking how great they were last night, I remembers the Dead wings played the night before.)






Vladdie_Kon1
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Joined: 04.21.2007

Feb 26 @ 12:28 PM ET
I really wish Chicago had Yzerman, he’s so great, astute, a visionary, all knowing and most importantly he can do no wrong.
- paulr


Just pointing out the fact he's a good GM... After Ken Holland destroys your team you learn to appreciate a GM who knows how to do his job.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Feb 26 @ 12:32 PM ET
Just pointing out the fact he's a good GM... After Ken Holland destroys your team you learn to appreciate a GM who knows how to do his job.
- Vladdie_Kon1




bjphawkfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Woodridge, IL
Joined: 07.02.2016

Feb 26 @ 12:34 PM ET
I heard Kane in a post game interview say that after he got checked hard by Bedard he figured he had to get back at him but then there was no time and he won the game in OT. That is the classic giving it back response though expect some retaliation in a game later on iMHO

I should have caught that about the spelling of “echo.”

- jhawk59

We have all been reading Wiz too long
LFS
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.08.2021

Feb 26 @ 12:39 PM ET
I deleted my last post I as misread the earlier post you made. Thought you were talking about the Wings.

Lighten up Francis... don't get your panties in a wad. LOL

- Vladdie_Kon1

I’m cool
bjphawkfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Woodridge, IL
Joined: 07.02.2016

Feb 26 @ 12:46 PM ET
First off, numbers should not be retired. Second he was good, not great, never won anything. It doesn't matter that he was from Chicago, his number if anything should be up in Detroit.
- THen22

They went to the Stanley Cup Final in 92. He won the Norris twice. He was a shut down defender. He was great.
captainserious
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.24.2010

Feb 26 @ 12:54 PM ET
Ducks at #5 on Wheeler's list

Gauthier in tier 1
Zellweger and Luneau in tier 2

wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Feb 26 @ 12:59 PM ET
We have all been reading Wiz too long
- bjphawkfan


It might be, but so far no one has reported typos on my seven round mock.

and Jhawk59, not too oile on afetr GPfan's rant,
that college newspaper sports award have your "LOOSE" everytime you are thinking lose in it?, b/c you are lucky it didn't as I am now convinced it is NOT a typo.


I guess I can see the hawks taking and being happy with Artyom Levshunov in the top three.
And i could see less emphasis on the Russians, and the forwards I have ranked in the top dozen, and there could be a "reach" run on rearguards in the top dozen, in the same way I can see a drop on the smaller duo of Aron Kiviharju, Cole Hutson, and Henry Mews...

I sited a few blogs back, the St. Louis past draft strategy with Edmundsson and Colton Parayko, where later rounds you take acouple big guys, not ready for prime time and let the percolate and develop.
This draft is weaker on the top and even in the top 100 than last year's but has plenty of long term developmental defenseman with NHL prototype abilities already showing, and they are there in my draft all the way to the start of the seventh round.
bjphawkfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Woodridge, IL
Joined: 07.02.2016

Feb 26 @ 1:05 PM ET
I agree with Chunk that taking numbers from the roster is kind of crazy. But I can't fathom seeing someone else wearing #9, #18, or #21. A ring of honor would be a better way to go. They could add names like Charlie Gardiner, Doug and Max Bently, Steve Larmer, Whitey Stapleton and Doug Jarett. There are guys out there that are worthy of recognition but not jersey retirement. Al Secord comes to mind along with Jeremy Roenick. It's an idea.
bjphawkfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Woodridge, IL
Joined: 07.02.2016

Feb 26 @ 1:09 PM ET
It might be, but so far no one has reported typos on my seven round mock.

and Jhawk59, not too oile on afetr GPfan's rant,
that college newspaper sports award have your "LOOSE" everytime you are thinking lose in it?, b/c you are lucky it didn't as I am now convinced it is NOT a typo.


I guess I can see the hawks taking and being happy with Artyom Levshunov in the top three.
And i could see less emphasis on the Russians, and the forwards I have ranked in the top dozen, and there could be a "reach" run on rearguards in the top dozen, in the same way I can see a drop on the smaller duo of Aron Kiviharju, Cole Hutson, and Henry Mews...

I sited a few blogs back, the St. Louis past draft strategy with Edmundsson and Colton Parayko, where later rounds you take acouple big guys, not ready for prime time and let the percolate and develop.
This draft is weaker on the top and even in the top 100 than last year's but has plenty of long term developmental defenseman with NHL prototype abilities already showing, and they are there in my draft all the way to the start of the seventh round.

- wiz1901

That's because I haven't read it yet. But I am used to your style of writing so I no longer see the typos. I did see loose but chose not to comment on it. I don't want to be the grammar police.
captainserious
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.24.2010

Feb 26 @ 1:16 PM ET
It might be, but so far no one has reported typos on my seven round mock.

and Jhawk59, not too oile on afetr GPfan's rant,
that college newspaper sports award have your "LOOSE" everytime you are thinking lose in it?, b/c you are lucky it didn't as I am now convinced it is NOT a typo.


I guess I can see the hawks taking and being happy with Artyom Levshunov in the top three.
And i could see less emphasis on the Russians, and the forwards I have ranked in the top dozen, and there could be a "reach" run on rearguards in the top dozen, in the same way I can see a drop on the smaller duo of Aron Kiviharju, Cole Hutson, and Henry Mews...

I sited a few blogs back, the St. Louis past draft strategy with Edmundsson and Colton Parayko, where later rounds you take acouple big guys, not ready for prime time and let the percolate and develop.
This draft is weaker on the top and even in the top 100 than last year's but has plenty of long term developmental defenseman with NHL prototype abilities already showing, and they are there in my draft all the way to the start of the seventh round.

- wiz1901


Do they almost have to draft a forward? To try and surround 98 with some more talent?

I'm not saying the D is set,but they do seem a bit ahead of the fwds with Vlasic looking really good and Korch looking solid for a 19 year old.

If the Blackhawks get 2nd pick do they force a fwd? Or do they take Levshunov or Silayev if they are ranked higher on their board?
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Feb 26 @ 1:17 PM ET
Not sure who'd want him. Forgot about Beauvlier's contract so maybe next TDL
- HawkintheD



I'm wondering if Raddysh is playing hurt. I know he doesn't have an extensive NHL resume, but he dropped off from being a 20 goal scorer to a 5 goal scorer (he's on pace for 7 goals this season). To your point, I don't think anyone will want him, at most he might be a throw-in in a hockey trade.

Beauvillier is going nowhere, I doubt the Hawks could get the coveted "future considerations" if they retained 50%.

I think there's a real short list of which Hawks could be traded at the TDL. T Johnson is likely gone (with 50% retained) for a mid-round pick or C-level prospect. Blackwell could be detail too, for minimal return. Maybe Tinordi goes, I could see the Hawks willing to part with him but unless a team is decimated with injuries who would want Tinordi?


DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Feb 26 @ 1:20 PM ET
Do they almost have to draft a forward? To try and surround 98 with some more talent?

I'm not saying the D is set,but they do seem a bit ahead of the fwds with Vlasic looking really good and Korch looking solid for a 19 year old.

If the Blackhawks get 2nd pick do they force a fwd? Or do they take Levshunov or Silayev if they are ranked higher on their board?

- captainserious


Do they have to? No, but drafting a forward is definitely a more significant need. Eiserman, Demidov and Lindstrom would be my choices if the Hawks don't draft #1 overall. It's likely, maybe almost a certainty (knock on wood) that the Hawks will draft in the top 5, even if they lose the lottery. With Celebrini going #1 I think there's a real solid chance they get one of the other guys listed.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Feb 26 @ 1:36 PM ET
That's because I haven't read it yet. But I am used to your style of writing so I no longer see the typos. I did see loose but chose not to comment on it. I don't want to be the grammar police.
- bjphawkfan



Hey!, the LOOSE is JHawk59 LOSE...not me.

Mine are long winded trains of streams (as in the tributaries overflowing) of consciousnesses.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Feb 26 @ 1:38 PM ET
There's nothing to grant.

Saying he's the best defenseman on this team is not a badge of an honor. He's surrounded by an abundance of 6/7 D men (Megna, Tinordi, Zaitsev) and young kids who are learning each night.

The only purpose he serves is eating minutes to not destroy another kid's confidence level by playing those same minutes when said rookie/young player isn't ready.

I will agree to disagree on his play being above average.

I swear to god I am watching Boris Mironov.

- SteveRain


Yep, as is Tinordi and Megna, who I like more than 95% of Hawk's fans. At least Tinordi and Megna know their limitations so they cause less damage than Jones who thinks he's Bobby Orr.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Feb 26 @ 1:52 PM ET
No. He is one of the most dynamic and exciting players in the league as an 18 year old with 4th liners and AHL players surrounding him.

He is going to win an awful lot of scoring titles once they surround him with some talent.

- fattybeef


He is, and IIRC before he got hurt he was top 10 in the NHL in entries. As an 18 yr old!

Question Fatty, Bedard will win scoring titles but are you hoping he sacrifices some offense like instead of 160 pts he'll settle for 150 to get back and help his team prevent some goals?

To be a better mate, a hockey player instead of a scoring machine?
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Feb 26 @ 1:57 PM ET
I'm wondering if Raddysh is playing hurt. I know he doesn't have an extensive NHL resume, but he dropped off from being a 20 goal scorer to a 5 goal scorer (he's on pace for 7 goals this season). To your point, I don't think anyone will want him, at most he might be a throw-in in a hockey trade.

Beauvillier is going nowhere, I doubt the Hawks could get the coveted "future considerations" if they retained 50%.

I think there's a real short list of which Hawks could be traded at the TDL. T Johnson is likely gone (with 50% retained) for a mid-round pick or C-level prospect. Blackwell could be detail too, for minimal return. Maybe Tinordi goes, I could see the Hawks willing to part with him but unless a team is decimated with injuries who would want Tinordi?

- DarthKane


That thought had crossed my mind as well. You hardly notice him at all this year and I seem to recall a fair amount of the goals he got last year being the in close variety.

This season he get knocked off the puck pretty easily.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Feb 26 @ 2:04 PM ET
Do they almost have to draft a forward? To try and surround 98 with some more talent?

I'm not saying the D is set,but they do seem a bit ahead of the fwds with Vlasic looking really good and Korch looking solid for a 19 year old.

If the Blackhawks get 2nd pick do they force a fwd? Or do they take Levshunov or Silayev if they are ranked higher on their board?

- captainserious


Only Celebrini speeds up the growth process for next year, if you really think Cayden Lindstom is tpo forward and you know you drafts have yielded very few big skilled scoring fowards, and he is your BEST forward maybe you go that way.
The way I look at everyone after Celebrini is a I am happy if you (Hawks org) are happy that he is pefect with the pick.
So many thigs in the process has to align eg., that the prospect fits in all ways.

Having Connor Bedard does help dispel any reseravtions the 2024 prospects may have about coming to the bid bad city.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Feb 26 @ 2:07 PM ET
Yep, as is Tinordi and Megna, who I like more than 95% of Hawk's fans. At least Tinordi and Megna know their limitations so they cause less damage than Jones who thinks he's Bobby Orr.
- Mr Ricochet


Ric, I have been waiting for criticism or kudos on the USHL kids in my mid draft assessments - profiles.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Feb 26 @ 2:09 PM ET
He is, and IIRC before he got hurt he was top 10 in the NHL in entries. As an 18 yr old!

Question Fatty, Bedard will win scoring titles but are you hoping he sacrifices some offense like instead of 160 pts he'll settle for 150 to get back and help his team prevent some goals?

To be a better mate, a hockey player instead of a scoring machine?

- Mr Ricochet


It kinda depends on how the rest of the team is comprised. If they have a bunch of guys like him on the team (mostly offense) then he'll have to change otherwise they won't win much. If you look at some of the other high end scorers taken recently they weren't great at preventing goals.

McJesus was better 1 PPG and a -1 his first year. Matthews scored 69 in 82 and was a +2. Both of these were on VASTLY better teams than whatever the Hawks put on the ice each night. Not to mention, the guy who scored the game-winner last night has never been known as much of a defensive player. Didn't seem to hurt his team too much while winning cups.

I really don't think it matters much as long as the Hawks surround him with teammates that have more diverse games. Having him is better than not having him. They need defensemen that can complete passes and play well positionally, forwards that can read off of him and have the skill to take advantage, and a goalie or two that isn't shell-shocked.
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