There's an article in puckpedia about the value of cap relief going to a team that acts as a 3rd party in a trade or takes on a cap dump player.

There's a table that shows the average draft pick return for various amounts of cap hit taken on. For example the return for a 2.5M cap hit is a 2nd round pick.

https://puckpedia.com/PerriCapRelief
- boilermaker100

Thanks much for throwing up this link!
Thanks for throwing the cap relief chart up but,

In the latest Tanev trade, New Jersey took on $1,125,000, basic half of Dallas’ half (Or 1/4 of the total) for a future 4th.
It doesn’t neat fit in any pattern.

And jeez, Louise, why have some listed in rounds and others in slot numbers?

and I realize it probably is worth it to Dallas, a meager future 4th to secure a solid vet, but I am not sure if a chart of what compensation is worth can be actually figured out.

At the deadline GM's get crazy, who was the Predator thought 3rd line centre you they got a #1 for?

In terms of Reichel you know he has high level skill, and for the most part he competes hard when he is out there. I don't see it as a lack of effort. That leads me to two conclusions. 1) His confidence is blown and he's pressing, which for the Hawks would be the best case scenario. Send him to Rockford and let him regain his confidence. -OR- 2) He's "hockey dumb", is he a skilled player with low Hockey IQ?, thats a little tougher to solve. You can hope to surround him with high IQ players and just let him do his thing, think Versteeg, but you wait too long and maybe you ruin his confidence forever.

Sign him to a couple of year deal, let him work his way back into the lineup, re-enforce to him that with Bedard, the return of Hall and a few other additions, he doesn't have to be "the one".
- TheTrob

Or overcoached . Tell him they are making him a center, needs to learn how to play defense down low as a center, needs to put on muscle/weight, bring him up to the big club, has success as a winger, comes back next year, back to being a center. Looks like they are trying to make him into what they want him to be as a player as opposed to what he is. Probably would of never been drafted by the Hawks under current management, and trying (tried) to reshape him into the current staffs vision of what they want him to be as a hockey player, as opposed to the old staff's vision of what they were getting.

Thanks much for throwing up this link!
Thanks for throwing the cap relief chart up but,

In the latest Tanev trade, New Jersey took on $1,125,000, basic half of Dallas’ half (Or 1/4 of the total) for a future 4th.
It doesn’t neat fit in any pattern.

And jeez, Louise, why have some listed in rounds and others in slot numbers?

and I realize it probably is worth it to Dallas, a meager future 4th to secure a solid vet, but I am not sure if a chart of what compensation is worth can be actually figured out.

At the deadline GM's get crazy, who was the Predator thought 3rd line centre you they got a #1 for?
- wiz1901

Tanner Jeannot?

If Davidson is true to form he will likely trade Kurashev at the deadline. He's low priced and under control after next season which makes him attractive to teams that need a forward but can't afford anyone of substance. Any first rounder or a high second would be acceptable for a guy who played almost all season on Bedard's line and the powerplay but only has 8 goals. Probably dreaming about a first rounder for him.
- stevefrmglencoe

If Bedard HAD a replacement, I could see sending Kurachev packing for a first easily...he is a young but still hasn't delivered as anything but yet another guy who is around until we get the right guys around Bedsy, though I am not sure if a first at the end of this year's first round is enough for GM Wiz to od the deal...

Without having a top 3 draft pick.
- LAHawk

Chicago’s top three draft pick is playing in the NHL. If Bedard and Korchinski were left in junior how do you think the rankings would look? Then add in the 2024 draft and next year the Hawks will have a very strong collection of prospects, possibly the best in the league. This prospect ranking is a rather pointless exercise as it can be argued any way we wish to fit our individual narratives. Detroit has done a great job building their team, no doubt. But KFC appears to be doing a great job building the team but in a different way. More than one way to skin a cat.

Or overcoached . Tell him they are making him a center, needs to learn how to play defense down low as a center, needs to put on muscle/weight, bring him up to the big club, has success as a winger, comes back next year, back to being a center. Looks like they are trying to make him into what they want him to be as a player as opposed to what he is. Probably would of never been drafted by the Hawks under current management, and trying (tried) to reshape him into the current staffs vision of what they want him to be as a hockey player, as opposed to the old staff's vision of what they were getting.
- LAHawk

FWIW, Powers has an article about Reichel down in Rockford. It says that he is starting to get back to his old self. Not mentioned in the article, but they are playing him at wing not center. I think they've now officially made that decision. He's skating harder, making plays for himself and others, taking more shots and playing a better overall game. Hopefully he keeps that up for a long stretch and gets his head back right again.

I don't think Kurashev is going anywhere. KFC signed him to a two year deal when he was only required to sign him for a year.
- bjphawkfan

I agree, unless somebody offers a #1 (very unlikely).

Or overcoached . Tell him they are making him a center, needs to learn how to play defense down low as a center, needs to put on muscle/weight, bring him up to the big club, has success as a winger, comes back next year, back to being a center. Looks like they are trying to make him into what they want him to be as a player as opposed to what he is. Probably would of never been drafted by the Hawks under current management, and trying (tried) to reshape him into the current staffs vision of what they want him to be as a hockey player, as opposed to the old staff's vision of what they were getting.
- LAHawk

Thats a good point LA, could definitely be a part of it. Less reaction, too much thinking....

Not sure if we can say how the draft would have been different. Hawks were picking 17th. At that point in the draft you are looking for guys with the highest ceiling, not highest floor. I think Reichel still fits that bill given what was still available in the draft at that time.

Chicago’s top three draft pick is playing in the NHL. If Bedard and Korchinski were left in junior how do you think the rankings would look? Then add in the 2024 draft and next year the Hawks will have a very strong collection of prospects, possibly the best in the league. This prospect ranking is a rather pointless exercise as it can be argued any way we wish to fit our individual narratives. Detroit has done a great job building their team, no doubt. But KFC appears to be doing a great job building the team but in a different way. More than one way to skin a cat.
- paulr

Knock it off with your nuance and logic.

I always chuckle when people get upset when GM's or teams build/win but it's not they way they want or think it should be done. Just let it play out and see what happens. I'll fully admit, I do it (probably more often than I think). I've been pissed since before the season started that the best player they secured this offseason was Foligno (I always expected Hall to blow up in some way, shape, or form). Ultimately, all I can do is watch and hope for the best. I'll still female dog, but end of the day, I still like watching the growth from the bottom of the league.

Chicago’s top three draft pick is playing in the NHL. If Bedard and Korchinski were left in junior how do you think the rankings would look? Then add in the 2024 draft and next year the Hawks will have a very strong collection of prospects, possibly the best in the league. This prospect ranking is a rather pointless exercise as it can be argued any way we wish to fit our individual narratives. Detroit has done a great job building their team, no doubt. But KFC appears to be doing a great job building the team but in a different way. More than one way to skin a cat.
- paulr

Not for lack of trying, in the 19-20 season Detroit had one of the worst winning percentages in recent memory. but lottery balls had them picking 4th, They picked Lucas Raymond after Lafreniere, Byfield and Stutzle were picked. I was making a comment on how well Yzerman has drafted, not anything about the Hawks or their pipeline .Remember all the snickers when Detroit took Mo Seider with the #6 pick? in 2019?

Wheeler's # 2 has dropped
Sh*t Wings in at 2..

Edvinson(LHD) and Sandin Pellikka(RHD) in tier 1
Kasper(C/LW),Danielson(C),Cossa(G)and Trey Augustine(G) in tier 2
Mazur,Wallinder and Buchelnikov in tier 3

Sabres coming in at #1
- captainserious

Wings are at number 2 because Yzerman refuses to bring up their top kids. He’d rather trot out Chariot, Maatta, and Petry on D than their top kid Edvinson.
The Hawks have Bedard and Korchinski up in the big leagues, otherwise they’d be ahead of Detroit.

Not for lack of trying, in the 19-20 season Detroit had one of the worst winning percentages in recent memory. but lottery balls had them picking 4th, They picked Lucas Raymond after Lafreniere, Byfield and Stutzle were picked. I was making a comment on how well Yzerman has drafted, not anything about the Hawks or their pipeline .Remember all the snickers when Detroit took Mo Seider with the #6 pick? in 2019?
- LAHawk

I remember thinking WTF? when they announced Seider's name. They still made a blunder with Zadina but overall, very good job with the picks made.

We'll see how they do over the next few years, but I still think the core of Larkin, Raymond, Seider can't match a Rantanen, McKinnon, Makar or Pettersson, Miller, Hughes or Stone, Marchessault, Theodore or (more importantly) Pasta, Bergeron, McAvoy.

Would the Hawks still have won with a Larkin, Raymond and Seider core with Hossa, Sharp and Campbell added? Similar to the Wings adding Kane and the Cat to this year's team.

They do have 4 lines that can score so let's see what happens.

I remember thinking WTF? when they announced Seider's name. They still made a blunder with Zadina but overall, very good job with the picks made.

We'll see how they do over the next few years, but I still think the core of Larkin, Raymond, Seider can't match a Rantanen, McKinnon, Makar or Pettersson, Miller, Hughes or Stone, Marchessault, Theodore or (more importantly) Pasta, Bergeron, McAvoy.

Would the Hawks still have won with a Larkin, Raymond and Seider core with Hossa, Sharp and Campbell added? Similar to the Wings adding Kane and the Cat to this year's team.

They do have 4 lines that can score so let's see what happens.
- Popsghostly

The Wings IMO are not going anywhere with Reimer/Husso/Lyon in net. And they need another top 4 defenseman. As currently constructed, I see them at best winning one round, but doubt that.

Wings are at number 2 because Yzerman refuses to bring up their top kids. He’d rather trot out Chariot, Maatta, and Petry on D than their top kid Edvinson.
The Hawks have Bedard and Korchinski up in the big leagues, otherwise they’d be ahead of Detroit.
- ObeseOprah

I think you want to be in the top halfish of the league prospect wise but being in the top 3-5 generally means the picks are accumulating in the lower leagues because none are good enough to actually contribute in the NHL.

When the Hawks were winning and Detroit was kind of past their prime a bunch of people were all hard over Detroits farm system and how they let guys marinate and all that crap when the simple fact of the matter is that none of those guys were good enough for the NHL anyway.

Hawks probably drop again next year when they have another 2 or 3 rookies on the roster. Not a bad thing.

Wings are at number 2 because Yzerman refuses to bring up their top kids. He’d rather trot out Chariot, Maatta, and Petry on D than their top kid Edvinson.
The Hawks have Bedard and Korchinski up in the big leagues, otherwise they’d be ahead of Detroit.
- ObeseOprah

Maybe Yzerman doesn’t think the probate ready for the NHL, or maybe it’s for salary purposes?

Maybe Yzerman doesn’t think the probate ready for the NHL, or maybe it’s for salary purposes?
- paulr

Wasn't Evidsson hurt at the beginning of the year?

Maybe Yzerman doesn’t think the probate ready for the NHL, or maybe it’s for salary purposes?
- paulr

I work with a guy from Detroit, who has repeatedly told me how confounding it is that they have these long touted kids who are being iced out by pretty average players. Seems the Yzerplan is starting to have its detractors.

Obligatory 4D-Chess, genius, etc jokes

Wheeler's # 2 has dropped
Sh*t Wings in at 2..

Edvinson(LHD) and Sandin Pellikka(RHD) in tier 1
Kasper(C/LW),Danielson(C),Cossa(G)and Trey Augustine(G) in tier 2
Mazur,Wallinder and Buchelnikov in tier 3

Sabres coming in at #1
- captainserious

I think since Stevie has been gm he's had 25 top 100 picks? That's not bad, KD has 16 in 2 years and they said we would be rated higher if Korchinski was still in Seattle, another 7 this summer if things remain the same not too shabby. Winning the 1st over all was so very fortunate. Just for comparison sake when the Oilers drafted McDavid he was their only pick in the top 100, the year before 3 and 91, the year after 4, 32, 63, 84, 91, tough way to build a team.

The Wings IMO are not going anywhere with Reimer/Husso/Lyon in net. And they need another top 4 defenseman. As currently constructed, I see them at best winning one round, but doubt that.
- LAHawk

Let's start the Jones to Detroit rumors.

Zach's on a roll! Another new blog up!

going back to yesterday's Seth Jones beatdown, appears Coach Luke thought Jones made the right play


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“That was the right decision.”
#Blackhawks head coach Luke Richardson breaks down Seth Jones’ decision to shoot, and the play that ultimately led to Patrick Kane’s OT winner on Saturday.

https://x.com/CHGO_Blackh.../1762920095620161709?s=20