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BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Mar 8 @ 10:01 AM ET
If PLD is available, that's some funny sh i t right there.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Mar 8 @ 10:10 AM ET
If PLD is available, that's some funny sh i t right there.
- BetweenTheDots


That whole situation still blows my mind. Just madness that he basically forced his way out of two teams and they still gave him a monster contract.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Mar 8 @ 10:23 AM ET
That whole situation still blows my mind. Just madness that he basically forced his way out of two teams and they still gave him a monster contract.
- Chunk


I criticized the Habs GM for giving up 2 30 something picks in last year's draft for Newhook instead of PLD. He also made a great move on both Monahan trades. I take me criticism back. In hindsight he was wise to stay away from PLD
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Mar 8 @ 10:37 AM ET
I criticized the Habs GM for giving up 2 30 something picks in last year's draft for Newhook instead of PLD. He also made a great move on both Monahan trades. I take me criticism back. In hindsight he was wise to stay away from PLD
- BetweenTheDots

And we have no idea how hard it was for him to stay away from Dubois. Montreal fans are always looking for the next French Canadian hero. Newhook was a great pick up.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Mar 8 @ 10:45 AM ET
And we have no idea how hard it was for him to stay away from Dubois. Montreal fans are always looking for the next French Canadian hero. Newhook was a great pick up.
- paulr


That's such a weird mindset. I don't care where the guy comes from as long as he helps my team win.
333inthe3rd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.04.2015

Mar 8 @ 10:50 AM ET
Kuznetsov to the Canes for a 3rd and 50% retained. He has another year on his contract after this, too.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Mar 8 @ 11:04 AM ET
Doesn't really mean much at this point of the season, but sounds like a good chance that AA and Zaitsev could be back tomorrow.
- Chunk

If it means that Tinordi sits, then the game will be more watchable.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Mar 8 @ 11:05 AM ET
I'd like to take a minute to reflect on the Guentzal trade and compare it to the return the Hawks got for Kane. Specifically, there were people who complained that KD didn't get as much value out of the deal as he should have. Considering Guentzal is younger, and more productive this year than Kane was last year (not to mention everyone knew that he was playing through a significant injury) I think it shows that it's not just the quality of the player that matters. The conditions around the player and the market have huge implications on what the return can and will be.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Mar 8 @ 11:06 AM ET
That's such a weird mindset. I don't care where the guy comes from as long as he helps my team win.
- Chunk

Don't take what Paul is saying out of context - the Quebecers love their hockey and are hospitable to good players from anywhere - Russia, Slovakia, USA, Sweden, Finland, wherever.

But to have a great one of their own from the Province with a Francophone name he would be worshipped like Beliveau, Lafleur, the Rocket and others were. Its just the way it is there.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Mar 8 @ 11:08 AM ET
Kuznetsov to the Canes for a 3rd and 50% retained. He has another year on his contract after this, too.
- 333inthe3rd


Wow looks like the Canes are finally going all in, still laugh about the 1st round pick being conditional if they make the SC finals, but at least they are willing to give it up and possibly have no 1st round pick next year.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Mar 8 @ 11:09 AM ET
I'd like to take a minute to reflect on the Guentzal trade and compare it to the return the Hawks got for Kane. Specifically, there were people who complained that KD didn't get as much value out of the deal as he should have. Considering Guentzal is younger, and more productive this year than Kane was last year (not to mention everyone knew that he was playing through a significant injury) I think it shows that it's not just the quality of the player that matters. The conditions around the player and the market have huge implications on what the return can and will be.
- Chunk

Great point!
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Mar 8 @ 11:10 AM ET
Don't take what Paul is saying out of context - the Quebecers love their hockey and are hospitable to good players from anywhere - Russia, Slovakia, USA, Sweden, Finland, wherever.

But to have a great one of their own from the Province with a Francophone name he would be worshipped like Beliveau, Lafleur, the Rocket and others were. Its just the way it is there.

- RickJ



Like Chicago worships Chelios because he is from Chicago?
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Mar 8 @ 11:13 AM ET
Seattle has re-signed Eberle, 2 years @ $4.75 AAV. A potential UFA for the Hawks taken off the board.
bjphawkfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Woodridge, IL
Joined: 07.02.2016

Mar 8 @ 11:14 AM ET
Like Chicago worships Chelios because he is from Chicago?
- LAHawk

Don't forget Eddie O
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Mar 8 @ 11:14 AM ET
Don't take what Paul is saying out of context - the Quebecers love their hockey and are hospitable to good players from anywhere - Russia, Slovakia, USA, Sweden, Finland, wherever.

But to have a great one of their own from the Province with a Francophone name he would be worshipped like Beliveau, Lafleur, the Rocket and others were. Its just the way it is there.

- RickJ


Oh, I'm sure. Maybe it's just me, but it seems like they almost go out of their way sometimes to land such a player. I know there is always extra interest if/when the Hawks draft or sign a Chicago area kid, but that normally seems to be more of a coincidence than a concerted effort to do so.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Mar 8 @ 11:14 AM ET
And we have no idea how hard it was for him to stay away from Dubois. Montreal fans are always looking for the next French Canadian hero. Newhook was a great pick up.
- paulr


Yea and if he doesnt work out you have 3 more years at $3 mil, instead of 7 more years at $8.5 mil.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Mar 8 @ 11:16 AM ET
Eberle resigns with the Kraken 2 x $4.75 so that is one FA possibility for the Hawks off the board.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Mar 8 @ 11:16 AM ET
Seattle has re-signed Eberle, 2 years @ $4.75 AAV. A potential UFA for the Hawks taken off the board.
- DarthKane


Have Jordan Eberle and Sam Gagner ever been seen in the same room together? Not sure why, but whenever I hear one of these two names, I always think they are the same guy.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Mar 8 @ 11:18 AM ET
I absolutely love this intro from the Leafs writer today:

After consecutive 4-1 losses to the Boston Bruins on Monday and Thursday (the irony of that score cannot be lost), the Toronto Maple Leafs have to be questioning where their club is and how optimistic their outlook should be six weeks from the Stanley Cup Playoffs and with hours remaining before the NHL Trade Deadline.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Mar 8 @ 11:19 AM ET
Blackhawks legend Malcolm Subban traded from St Louis to Columbus for future considerations.

I have a feeling that this future considerations-guy will be on the move a few times today.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Mar 8 @ 11:20 AM ET
Craig Button acts like Pierre Maguire, what a knob.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Mar 8 @ 11:24 AM ET
I absolutely love this intro from the Leafs writer today:

After consecutive 4-1 losses to the Boston Bruins on Monday and Thursday (the irony of that score cannot be lost), the Toronto Maple Leafs have to be questioning where their club is and how optimistic their outlook should be six weeks from the Stanley Cup Playoffs and with hours remaining before the NHL Trade Deadline.

- Chunk

The Leafs went out and improved their defensive defensemen but they still have to address the elephant in the room, Matthews, Marner and Willie Bystander the three Regular season Superstars who have a penchant for hiding when things get rough.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Mar 8 @ 11:27 AM ET
The Leafs went out and improved their defensive defensemen but they still have to address the elephant in the room, Matthews, Marner and Willie Bystander the three Regular season Superstars who have a penchant for hiding when things get rough.
- paulr


Isn't that what Bertuzzi and Domi were supposed to help fix?
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Mar 8 @ 11:28 AM ET
Blackhawks legend Malcolm Subban traded from St Louis to Columbus for future considerations.

I have a feeling that this future considerations-guy will be on the move a few times today.

- DarthKane


This is the third time he's been traded, and second time traded for our guy "Future".
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Mar 8 @ 11:30 AM ET
Jets get Toffoli??
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