Check out Couturiers ice time in December and January. Averaged over 20 minutes a game, with several outings of 23 and 24 minutes.

https://www.statmuse.com/.../game-log?seasonYear=2024

Tortorella pulverized Sean Couturier to get that precious short term dopamine hit. The Flyers really are cavemen. Never thinking about the long game.

https://twitter.com/charl...5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

It was always smoke and mirrors. Anyone who couldn't see that what they were doing was unsustainable was fooling themselves.

Running Coots into the ground was part of the reason for the hot start and the current collapse.
- Flyers_01

That’s a bit of a stretch. The defense is depleted from injuries and the trade and we no longer have a goalie tandem. It was sustainable for 60 games, they just don’t have the depth.

I don’t care if they make the playoffs, they need to make the right moves in the summer. Trade Laughton, don’t make dumb signings, okay the long game.

That’s a bit of a stretch. The defense is depleted from injuries and the trade and we no longer have a goalie tandem. It was sustainable for 60 games, they just don’t have the depth.
- ClaudeFather

this will be their out to the fans. we really tried injuries killed us and the like.

they have speech already written

I don’t care if they make the playoffs, they need to make the right moves in the summer. Trade Laughton, don’t make dumb signings, okay the long game.
- ClaudeFather

no trade and def I see a big signing/trade. new era of orange.

wonder where that Camille chic is at these days.

https://twitter.com/billm...5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

no trade and def I see a big signing/trade. new era of orange.

wonder where that Camille chic is at these days.
- hello it's me 2050

There really is not a lot of UFA blueline options this summer. Dumba and Walker are really the best options. At center, Lindholm and Stamkos. Next summer, more depth like Theodore, Hedman, and Draisaitl off the top of my head-certainly subject to change.. Now I do expect trades this summer.

The metro is freaking horrible this year. It feels like half the teams are trying to get a better draft pick. The Flyers may have a hard time playing themselves out of a playoff position.
- Flyers_01

four teams that don't want to make the playoffs anymore and one that really does want to (the Isles) but they just suck.

Torts is a festering turd. Can’t wait til he’s gone though my fear is that President Doofus will get rid of Briere before the guy who is really running the organization.

Couts had missed nearly 2 full seasons and was coming off 2 serious back surgeries. So what does our brilliant HC do? He runs him out there for 20+ minutes per night right from the get go. No wonder he’s now out of gas, probably dinged up, and struggling. But here’s the thing, if you look at advanced stats, he is ALWAYS among the top 7-8 forwards each and every damn game! So scratching him is just Torts being a bunghole.

A smart coach, one with enough sense to know that on a rebuilding team, you play the long game, would have started the season with Couts playing a middle 6 role with his minutes carefully monitored. Furthermore, a smart coach would give him ample time off and would probably sit him occasionally in b2b situations.

Torts is self obsessed blowhard who loves playing mind games with his players. He is out of date and out of touch with today’s game. Does he get a lot out of his teams? Yeah, to some degree. But ask yourself this, what would better benefit the team in the long run:
Barely limping into the final playoff spot and getting bounced in round one, or just missing and either way drafting in the 13-17 spot
Or
Playing the long game, not just with Couts, but overall, and finishing with 70-75 points and picking in the 5-8 range with at least some chance of moving up to 1 or 2?

FU Torts
- BiggE

Tortorella is a narcissistic coach who never cared about the future and only cares about his own legacy and his own success. This franchise has hitched their wagon to him and it is only going to continue their legacy. Which is weighed down in perpetual mediocrity. They aren't going anywhere as long as Tortorella is involved.

There really is not a lot of UFA blueline options this summer. Dumba and Walker are really the best options. At center, Lindholm and Stamkos. Next summer, more depth like Theodore, Hedman, and Draisaitl off the top of my head-certainly subject to change.. Now I do expect trades this summer.
- Trox88

best bet is a trade as dont see anyone wanting to come to the flyers unless a sever eoverpay

Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 3/19/24 vs. TOR
- bmeltzer

Scratch the captain give and ND ice time -- that is hands down Jack Adams winner stuff from torts

If Coots is REALLY being scratched due to performance issues it is a travesty. I still think this is cloak and dagger stuff covering up an injury. It just makes ZERO sense when you have no depth at center. However, Coots isn't the reason for the collapse. Their schedule has been brutal lately and they basically lost 4 defenseman (Walker, Seeler, Charmain man (Drysdale) and Risto). How many teams are gonna lose their best defense pairing (Seeler and Walker) and just keep chugging along?

If Coots is REALLY being scratched due to performance issues it is a travesty. I still think this is cloak and dagger stuff covering up an injury. It just makes ZERO sense when you have no depth at center. However, Coots isn't the reason for the collapse. Their schedule has been brutal lately and they basically lost 4 defenseman (Walker, Seeler, Charmain man (Drysdale) and Risto). How many teams are gonna lose their best defense pairing (Seeler and Walker) and just keep chugging along?
- Phillywhiteout

Couturier is giving everything he has. I 100% believe that. The coach is betraying him if you ask me. Used him up and is now throwing him in the trash.

Bill Meltzer
@billmeltzer
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Couturier: "I've been putting the work in for a while. I've been struggling, but I've been working on my game, and it's frustrating the way I've been treated around here lately. But it is what it is."

oh boy

Bill Meltzer
@billmeltzer
Couturier: "I control what I can control. It is what it is, and I'm gonna move on.

"It doesn't matter what I think. I've got to leave my ego aside. Hopefully I can get back into [the lineup] soon."

If Coots is REALLY being scratched due to performance issues it is a travesty. I still think this is cloak and dagger stuff covering up an injury. It just makes ZERO sense when you have no depth at center. However, Coots isn't the reason for the collapse. Their schedule has been brutal lately and they basically lost 4 defenseman (Walker, Seeler, Charmain man (Drysdale) and Risto). How many teams are gonna lose their best defense pairing (Seeler and Walker) and just keep chugging along?
- Phillywhiteout

Pretty much agree on all this.

https://twitter.com/billm...&t=w6q3WrhKj3ub3jVkrpV62g

The way he’s been treated around here lately?!?! 😳

THAT is not a good thing to hear from the captain. This is bad.

oh boy
- MBFlyerfan

it was only a matter of time before the mutiny comes about as it was inevitable. Now not as soon as I thought as they played above expectations all year.

just think if any of the teams below the flyers played up to just average expectations. where would the flyers be?

edit: maybe forcing him to request a trade....I kid..somewhat

oh boy
- MBFlyerfan

Could become a Torts or Coots situation.

How’s the Gurianov change of scenery working out?

With that Courturier quote about not being treated well, is this a sign that the coach has lost/is losing the locker room already? Players, especially veterans, are usually more selective in their words if everything is fine.

How’s the Gurianov change of scenery working out?
- PLindbergh31

I don't think Gurianov even knows where he is at the moment.

oh boy
- MBFlyerfan

So much for that C on his jersey, and so much for that "really close room"...

How’s the Gurianov change of scenery working out?
- PLindbergh31

what was bad/wrong with that meaningless trade? is this really the best you can bring to the table?