Uh... you not counting Marner, Werenski and Rantanen
- Chunk

OOPS, correct, but all 3 of them might be on new teams in 2 years (trade of free agency) !!!

OOPS, correct, but all 3 of them might be on new teams in 2 years (trade of free agency) !!!
- LAHawk

Well sure.... and if I actually listen to my wife I might get lucky once in a while, but don't count your chickens before they hatch.

One thing I think KD 100% got right was identifying players in the draft that have the will to continually improve. You can't teach that.

The more i watch the hawks the more i believe they dshould draft lindstrom, if they dont draft first( celebrini)

The more i watch the hawks the more i believe they dshould draft lindstrom, if they dont draft first( celebrini)
- LFS

As much as I like many of the things Lindstrom brings, I trust what the GM and scouts ultimately decide. Lindstrom has missed allot of time and that’s affecting him in the rankings. But at the end of the day rankings won’t matter as I’m sure teams will factor his time off, including his injury, before they make their own draft lists. I’d prefer Davidson steers clear of any Russian players with that first pick only because of the unpredictability they bring, unless of course they feel there’s a huge difference in ability. Levshunov appears to be a safe pick, in part because he’s spent the last two seasons in North America. The most intriguing guy, IMO, is Zane Parekh I’ve seen him live twice and countless times on TV. His abilities, skating, his shot, his stick handling are all above average but his poise and on ice awareness are off the charts. His defense isn’t his strength but he’s not terrible defensively and he seems to be improving. One thing that bothers me is apparently he spit on opponent during a scrum. Granted it was isolated but that isn’t the type of character anyone wants to see.

The more i watch the hawks the more i believe they dshould draft lindstrom, if they dont draft first( celebrini)
- LFS

I doubt you'd have much, if any, pushback on that here. The only other angle I would go for is an RHD, but that doesn't necessarily jive with BPA. You can easily get caught up in filling the holes of the pipeline, but there are always so many moving parts to each offseason that you need to say everything with a disclaimer.

As much as I like many of the things Lindstrom brings, I trust what the GM and scouts ultimately decide. Lindstrom has missed allot of time and that’s affecting him in the rankings. But at the end of the day rankings won’t matter as I’m sure teams will factor his time off, including his injury, before they make their own draft lists. I’d prefer Davidson steers clear of any Russian players with that first pick only because of the unpredictability they bring, unless of course they feel there’s a huge difference in ability. Levshunov appears to be a safe pick, in part because he’s spent the last two seasons in North America. The most intriguing guy, IMO, is Zane Parekh I’ve seen him live twice and countless times on TV. His abilities, skating, his shot, his stick handling are all above average but his poise and on ice awareness are off the charts. His defense isn’t his strength but he’s not terrible defensively and he seems to be improving. One thing that bothers me is apparently he spit on opponent during a scrum. Granted it was isolated but that isn’t the type of character anyone wants to see.
- paulr

Perfect! Finally a D-man with redass!!

Any idea how he would compare to Q. Hughes? I thought for sure that kid would get buried in the bigs, but he's a monster.

The more i watch the hawks the more i believe they dshould draft lindstrom, if they dont draft first( celebrini)
- LFS

Me too. But can the club hit a grand slam on a 6ft 3in 230 lb centerman that can skate??? ........ If they do of course you're hoping for a high floor.

Lindstrom, if he hits, will be a beast mode kinda force that can score. A true monster that might be able to play center in the Bigs... KD has spent capital on 6ft and under speed skill forwards so any size in the top 6 would be gold.

For the drafts 2015-2018 I looked at the top 10 draft choices, and how many are with the original teams, whether never made it, left via free agency, trade, etc.

2015 1 of 10
2016 2 of 10
2017 5 of 10
2018 6 of 10.

It appears that the other GM's are consistently evaluating their team and trying to improve, rather than stockpiling cattle like a livestock performance show.
- LAHawk

This doesn't exactly address your post but it's a good time to bring this up.. The Athletic had a recent article on the tendencies of GM's/organIzations. Mentioned Waddell at CAR.

He's a guy that prefers more picks/darts than less higher picks. Likes to stockpile. Hard to argue with their successes drafting over a long long time acknowledging there's more than one way to skin a cat....... I always liked when they took a kid I liked. To me it validated my evaluation of the kid.

This doesn't exactly address your post but it's a good time to bring this up.. The Athletic had a recent article on the tendencies of GM's/organIzations. Mentioned Waddell at CAR.

He's a guy that prefers more picks/darts than less higher picks. Likes to stockpile. Hard to argue with their successes drafting over a long long time acknowledging there's more than one way to skin a cat....... I always liked when they took a kid I liked. To me it validated my evaluation of the kid.
- Mr Ricochet

And if you count the Russian goalie, they have 8 players on the big club that were originally drafted, and their best player Aho was not their first round pick (second round #35, they drafted Hannifin #3 that year after Mc David and Eichel.

Perfect! Finally a D-man with redass!!

Any idea how he would compare to Q. Hughes? I thought for sure that kid would get buried in the bigs, but he's a monster.
- Chunk

Really hard to compare. One is playing against men, the other against boys. But Parekh shares many attributes, whether he can take them to the next level is the key.

As much as I like many of the things Lindstrom brings, I trust what the GM and scouts ultimately decide. Lindstrom has missed allot of time and that’s affecting him in the rankings. But at the end of the day rankings won’t matter as I’m sure teams will factor his time off, including his injury, before they make their own draft lists. I’d prefer Davidson steers clear of any Russian players with that first pick only because of the unpredictability they bring, unless of course they feel there’s a huge difference in ability. Levshunov appears to be a safe pick, in part because he’s spent the last two seasons in North America. The most intriguing guy, IMO, is Zane Parekh I’ve seen him live twice and countless times on TV. His abilities, skating, his shot, his stick handling are all above average but his poise and on ice awareness are off the charts. His defense isn’t his strength but he’s not terrible defensively and he seems to be improving. One thing that bothers me is apparently he spit on opponent during a scrum. Granted it was isolated but that isn’t the type of character anyone wants to see.
- paulr

To anyone out there... Let's assume the Hawks land a forward with their own #1 at the 2nd through 4th pick. If Parekh is available at #9 or #10, would anybody trade the TB 1st (says it's 18-20) and either Vlasic or Korchinski to move up and get him.

Really hard to compare. One is playing against men, the other against boys. But Parekh shares many attributes, whether he can take them to the next level is the key.
- paulr

I guess I meant compared to what Hughes was in school.

And if you count the Russian goalie, they have 8 players on the big club that were originally drafted, and their best player Aho was not their first round pick (second round #35, they drafted Hannifin #3 that year after Mc David and Eichel.
- LAHawk

Wadell sure ain't scared to draft/stockpile goalies, is he? https://www.hockeydb.com/...aft/teams/dr00005154.html

To anyone out there... Let's assume the Hawks land a forward with their own #1 at the 2nd through 4th pick. If Parekh is available at #9 or #10, would anybody trade the TB 1st (says it's 18-20) and either Vlasic or Korchinski to move up and get him.
- boilermaker100

That would take some balls on Davidson’s part.

To anyone out there... Let's assume the Hawks land a forward with their own #1 at the 2nd through 4th pick. If Parekh is available at #9 or #10, would anybody trade the TB 1st (says it's 18-20) and either Vlasic or Korchinski to move up and get him.
- boilermaker100

Are you asking because of the logjam at LD, or because you think he is better than either?

Personally, I think if you are trading KK or Vlasic, you should be getting an NHL player back.

Wadell sure ain't scared to draft/stockpile goalies, is he? https://www.hockeydb.com/...aft/teams/dr00005154.html
- Mr Ricochet

Because he always seems to have a goalie problem?

To anyone out there... Let's assume the Hawks land a forward with their own #1 at the 2nd through 4th pick. If Parekh is available at #9 or #10, would anybody trade the TB 1st (says it's 18-20) and either Vlasic or Korchinski to move up and get him.
- boilermaker100

Not those 2

Interesting discussions, thanks!

Just looked it up, the 2010 SC team had 12 Blackhawk draftees on the roster, plus 2 undrafted players.

Bickell, Bolland, Brouwer, Burish, Byfuglien (one of the scouts most have had a thing for the letter B), Kane, Skille, Toews, Hjalmarsson, Keith, Seabrook, Crawford, Hendry, Niemi

Wadell sure ain't scared to draft/stockpile goalies, is he? https://www.hockeydb.com/...aft/teams/dr00005154.html
- Mr Ricochet

Seems to not be deterred AT ALL to drafting Russians either.

Interesting discussions, thanks!

Just looked it up, the 2010 SC team had 12 Blackhawk draftees on the roster, plus 2 undrafted players.

Bickell, Bolland, Brouwer, Burish, Byfuglien (one of the scouts most have had a thing for the letter B), Kane, Skille, Toews, Hjalmarsson, Keith, Seabrook, Crawford, Hendry, Niemi
- scottak

Can you really count Skille on that list?

I guess I meant compared to what Hughes was in school.
- Chunk

Strictly looking at the stats, Parekh has much better offensive numbers but you have to factor in various factors like was Hughes held back as a freshman, if he had to stay within a system that prevented him from the freelancing Parekh does. Bottom line, I have no clue.

To anyone out there... Let's assume the Hawks land a forward with their own #1 at the 2nd through 4th pick. If Parekh is available at #9 or #10, would anybody trade the TB 1st (says it's 18-20) and either Vlasic or Korchinski to move up and get him.
- boilermaker100

Now this is why Parekh is gonna keep a lotta GM's up at night until his name is called..... No to Vlasic. This guy is the real deal who will eat the hardest NHL playoff minutes.

I see Parekh as a much better pro than KK and he's a right shot. Today, I say yes. Tomorrow, maybe not but I think Parekh could be a 70-80 pt NHL Dman.

KK looks more like a 55ish pt ceiling guy.

Now this is why Parekh is gonna keep a lotta GM's up at night until his name is called..... No to Vlasic. This guy is the real deal who will eat the hardest NHL playoff minutes.

I see Parekh as a much better pro than KK and he's a right shot. Today, I say yes. Tomorrow, maybe not but I think Parekh could be a 70-80 pt NHL Dman.

KK looks more like a 55ish pt ceiling guy.
- Mr Ricochet

If he's so good that one is willing to give up a promising young dman then just draft him with the 1st pick we have, i still rather take Levshunov or Yakemchuk i want my dmen to have some size to them

That's wild we are talking about how we need a big forward then we are talking about a small defenseman.

If he's so good that one is willing to give up a promising young dman then just draft him with the 1st pick we have, i still rather take Levshunov or Yakemchuk i want my dmen to have some size to them

That's wild we are talking about how we need a big forward then we are talking about a small defenseman.
- BetweenTheDots

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