Mr Ricochet
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Soderblom is an undrafted goalie. IMO he's simply never been an NHL quality talent. .... Would not surprise me if he's back to Sveden in a couple yrs.
Even when he's not whiffing on 30 footers every shot is an adventure as a scrambles around constantly and that's not even taking into account he's a rebound machine of the highest order. |
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bjphawkfan
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This game is a total joke! |
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LAHawk
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Curious to see if the Ducks actually show up tonight - BetweenTheDots
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Chunk
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Did the Hawks? - LAHawk
Was Entwistle injured? Wondering why they went 11/7. |
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LAHawk
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Was Entwistle injured? Wondering why they went 11/7. - Chunk
Because LR said he wanted to add some toughness to his line-up.
Ben Pope
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Richardson on why he went 11F/7D:
"We wanted to put Tinordi in the lineup for some toughness. I just thought it gives us a chance, if we need to find some scoring, to use some of our offensive players a little bit more. But obviously both didn't work tonight. Our back end didn't move the puck as clean as we wanted, but also forwards weren't in position and weren't clicking as a unit. We just weren't connected."
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Soderblom is an undrafted goalie. IMO he's simply never been an NHL quality talent. .... Would not surprise me if he's back to Sveden in a couple yrs.
Even when he's not whiffing on 30 footers every shot is an adventure as a scrambles around constantly and that's not even taking into account he's a rebound machine of the highest order. - Mr Ricochet
The Hawks goalie situation should be interesting next season. Do they go again with the Mrazek/Soderblom tandem? That's a bit risky IMO. Both have stayed healthy this season, but what if Mrazek goes down with an injury? Then the Hawks would have to rely on Soderblom and probably Stauber (with Commesso maybe getting in a game or two).
Another alternative, proposed by Darth I think, is to move on from Arvid. Then it's either promoting one of the kids to backup, or finding a journeyman veteran.
I haven't been following Commesso much so I don't know if he's the real deal. Gajan is probably 3 or 4 years away but who knows how he'll turn out. I wouldn't be surprised if another goalie is drafted this summer to add to the pipeline.
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Chunk
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The Hawks goalie situation should be interesting next season. Do they go again with the Mrazek/Soderblom tandem? That's a bit risky IMO. Both have stayed healthy this season, but what if Mrazek goes down with an injury? Then the Hawks would have to rely on Soderblom and probably Stauber (with Commesso maybe getting in a game or two).
Another alternative, proposed by Darth I think, is to move on from Arvid. Then it's either promoting one of the kids to backup, or finding a journeyman veteran.
I haven't been following Commesso much so I don't know if he's the real deal. Gajan is probably 3 or 4 years away but who knows how he'll turn out. I wouldn't be surprised if another goalie is drafted this summer to add to the pipeline. - boilermaker100
I think absolute worst case is that they just qualify Stauber and he and Soda switch places next year. What I think will happen is that they go find another Stalok type.
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Chunk
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Because LR said he wanted to add some toughness to his line-up.
Ben Pope
@BenPopeCST
Richardson on why he went 11F/7D:
"We wanted to put Tinordi in the lineup for some toughness. I just thought it gives us a chance, if we need to find some scoring, to use some of our offensive players a little bit more. But obviously both didn't work tonight. Our back end didn't move the puck as clean as we wanted, but also forwards weren't in position and weren't clicking as a unit. We just weren't connected." - LAHawk
Tinordi is what happens when you think there is still a place for John Scott in this league. Tough is great as long as you know how to also play hockey. Just being cubed steak on skates is pointless. |
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LAHawk
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Tinordi is what happens when you think there is still a place for John Scott in this league. Tough is great as long as you know how to also play hockey. Just being cubed steak on skates is pointless. - Chunk
Well those type of guys are still prevalent in the league. Ross Johnston (who fought Tinordi) has been in the league 7 years for this sole purpose. Look at the new Rangers sensation Rempe, Reminds me of a player from the goon era.
KD needs to sign Grimson for the team next year,. (RED FONT)
In all seriousness, I know they are building, but the team has a lack of size and toughness. Was going 11/7, LR sending a message to KD what he thinks the type of player KD needs to bring in next year?) Look at how the Kings have handled them this year. And this is regular season, not anywhere near playoff intensity.
I guess you hope Colton Dach makes the team next year. He is the only Hawk forward prospect that has size, skill, and appears to be willing to go to the front of the net and in the corners.
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Chunk
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Well those type of guys are still prevalent in the league. Ross Johnston (who fought Tinordi) has been in the league 7 years for this sole purpose. Look at the new Rangers sensation Rempe, Reminds me of a player from the goon era.
KD needs to sign Grimson for the team next year,. (RED FONT)
In all seriousness, I know they are building, but the team has a lack of size and toughness. Was going 11/7, LR sending a message to KD what he thinks the type of player KD needs to bring in next year?) Look at how the Kings have handled them this year. And this is regular season, not anywhere near playoff intensity.
I guess you hope Colton Dach makes the team next year. He is the only Hawk forward prospect that has size, skill, and appears to be willing to go to the front of the net and in the corners. - LAHawk
Bertuzzi
Domi
Foegele
Mantha (ok he's just big).
All UFA's. I really doubt they entrust that role to a kid, unless they bring up Marcel.
Edit: Outside of Reeves in TOR, do any of the contending teams have a guy like that who can't actually play? |
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LAHawk
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Bertuzzi
Domi
Foegele
Mantha (ok he's just big).
All UFA's. I really doubt they entrust that role to a kid, unless they bring up Marcel.
Edit: Outside of Reeves in TOR, do any of the contending teams have a guy like that who can't actually play? - Chunk
Marcel has I think one minor penalty this year, looks like he is more Bambi.
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LAHawk
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Bertuzzi
Domi
Foegele
Mantha (ok he's just big).
All UFA's. I really doubt they entrust that role to a kid, unless they bring up Marcel.
Edit: Outside of Reeves in TOR, do any of the contending teams have a guy like that who can't actually play? - Chunk
Some examples
Vegas has Kolizar, McNabb (but there entire team is big)
Colorado has Trenin, Manson
Carolina has Lemieux/Chatfield
Panthers have Tkachuck
Vancouver has Zadorov, Ian Cole
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Chunk
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Some examples
Vegas has Kolizar, McNabb (but there entire team is big)
Colorado has Trenin, Manson
Carolina has Lemieux/Chatfield
Panthers have Tkachuck
Vancouver has Zadorov, Ian Cole - LAHawk
Well yeah, that's my point. All of those guys can play (outside of maybe Kolesar) or at least aren't Hockey dumb.
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Well those type of guys are still prevalent in the league. Ross Johnston (who fought Tinordi) has been in the league 7 years for this sole purpose. Look at the new Rangers sensation Rempe, Reminds me of a player from the goon era.
KD needs to sign Grimson for the team next year,. (RED FONT)
In all seriousness, I know they are building, but the team has a lack of size and toughness. Was going 11/7, LR sending a message to KD what he thinks the type of player KD needs to bring in next year?) Look at how the Kings have handled them this year. And this is regular season, not anywhere near playoff intensity.
I guess you hope Colton Dach makes the team next year. He is the only Hawk forward prospect that has size, skill, and appears to be willing to go to the front of the net and in the corners. - LAHawk
I agree that some size and toughness will have to be added before this team becomes a contender. Look at the 2010 era - Bug Buff, Bickell, Brouwer - to name a few. KD can't rely on the just the smaller fast skilled guys like Bedard, Nazar, Moore. That would be a good nucleus but this team will need some size and snarl.
Dach would be a good start IF he can stay healthy. Unfortunately, he is injured every year and misses many games.
Lindstrom would be a good addition. The Domi and Bertuzzi tyoe veterans would be a short term fix, but the Hawks need some redwoods in the system. |
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Chunk
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I agree that some size and toughness will have to be added before this team becomes a contender. Look at the 2010 era - Bug Buff, Bickell, Brouwer - to name a few. KD can't rely on the just the smaller fast skilled guys like Bedard, Nazar, Moore. That would be a good nucleus but this team will need some size and snarl.
Dach would be a good start IF he can stay healthy. Unfortunately, he is injured every year and misses many games.
Lindstrom would be a good addition. The Domi and Bertuzzi tyoe veterans would be a short term fix, but the Hawks need some redwoods in the system. - boilermaker100
Right now they are all on the blueline (at least the ones that are closest to the NHL). EDM, and Allan both play a heavier game but are actual hockey players. Phillips engages most of the time, but needs to clean up his overall play. Most of the forwards that are close are on the smaller side. I'm not saying the smaller guys can be effective playing tough, but it would be nicer to have some size to back that up. |
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LAHawk
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I agree that some size and toughness will have to be added before this team becomes a contender. Look at the 2010 era - Bug Buff, Bickell, Brouwer - to name a few. KD can't rely on the just the smaller fast skilled guys like Bedard, Nazar, Moore. That would be a good nucleus but this team will need some size and snarl.
Dach would be a good start IF he can stay healthy. Unfortunately, he is injured every year and misses many games.
Lindstrom would be a good addition. The Domi and Bertuzzi tyoe veterans would be a short term fix, but the Hawks need some redwoods in the system. - boilermaker100
Not so much redwoods, but physical players. Look at our tall defense, all 6'2 and above, and except for Tinordi, they are not physical.
Foligno is the most physical forward, R. Johnson is physical also (probably will be resigned to at least an AHL contract just for the fact he provides what is not in the system now).
Above what you mentioned above, Toews was physical, Hossa was physical, Bolland was physical, besides a Boynton/Brookbank on the back end.
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Well those type of guys are still prevalent in the league. Ross Johnston (who fought Tinordi) has been in the league 7 years for this sole purpose. Look at the new Rangers sensation Rempe, Reminds me of a player from the goon era.
KD needs to sign Grimson for the team next year,. (RED FONT)
In all seriousness, I know they are building, but the team has a lack of size and toughness. Was going 11/7, LR sending a message to KD what he thinks the type of player KD needs to bring in next year?) Look at how the Kings have handled them this year. And this is regular season, not anywhere near playoff intensity.
I guess you hope Colton Dach makes the team next year. He is the only Hawk forward prospect that has size, skill, and appears to be willing to go to the front of the net and in the corners. - LAHawk
I dunno its the end of the year and I guess we can infer whatever we want but maybe tinkering with the line up like that when they're "healthy" is his way of passively aggressively telling the front office that this poop is getting old. |
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totem
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The Hawks goalie situation should be interesting next season. Do they go again with the Mrazek/Soderblom tandem? That's a bit risky IMO. Both have stayed healthy this season, but what if Mrazek goes down with an injury? Then the Hawks would have to rely on Soderblom and probably Stauber (with Commesso maybe getting in a game or two).
Another alternative, proposed by Darth I think, is to move on from Arvid. Then it's either promoting one of the kids to backup, or finding a journeyman veteran.
I haven't been following Commesso much so I don't know if he's the real deal. Gajan is probably 3 or 4 years away but who knows how he'll turn out. I wouldn't be surprised if another goalie is drafted this summer to add to the pipeline. - boilermaker100
College Free Agent Goaltenders:
https://www.prohockeyrumo...-preview-goaltenders.html
European Free Agents (2 goalies mentioned):
https://www.dailyfaceoff....ency-top-10-european-ufas
Not sure there is a lot here for an NHL backup right away - maybe the 2 Euros could be a consideration. Just hard to tell about Soderblom, he was good at ROC for 2 years and is still fairly young. Stalock has hardly played this year and is an UFA again.
Would like to see them sign draftee Dominic Basse from St. Cloud if they can find a spot for him.
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LAHawk
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College Free Agent Goaltenders:
https://www.prohockeyrumo...-preview-goaltenders.html
European Free Agents (2 goalies mentioned):
https://www.dailyfaceoff....ency-top-10-european-ufas
Not sure there is a lot here for an NHL backup right away - maybe the 2 Euros could be a consideration. Just hard to tell about Soderblom, he was good at ROC for 2 years and is still fairly young. Stalock has hardly played this year and is an UFA again.
Would like to see them sign draftee Dominic Basse from St. Cloud if they can find a spot for him. - totem
kevin Lankenin is a UFA next year. |
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I think absolute worst case is that they just qualify Stauber and he and Soda switch places next year. What I think will happen is that they go find another Stalok type. - Chunk
I think Soderblom is done as a Hawk after this season. |
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Tinordi is what happens when you think there is still a place for John Scott in this league. Tough is great as long as you know how to also play hockey. Just being cubed steak on skates is pointless. - Chunk
Calling John Scott Tinordi is an insult.
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I agree that some size and toughness will have to be added before this team becomes a contender. Look at the 2010 era - Bug Buff, Bickell, Brouwer - to name a few. KD can't rely on the just the smaller fast skilled guys like Bedard, Nazar, Moore. That would be a good nucleus but this team will need some size and snarl.
Dach would be a good start IF he can stay healthy. Unfortunately, he is injured every year and misses many games.
Lindstrom would be a good addition. The Domi and Bertuzzi tyoe veterans would be a short term fix, but the Hawks need some redwoods in the system. - boilermaker100
Misiak is interesting if only because of his skating ability and bigger frame (pushing 200 as a 19 year old). Slaggert is 6'0 and 190, he's not tiny, though after 4 years of college I would have liked to see him closer to 200.
Colton Dach - like his brother - does nothing for me at 6'4 193. Hes a (frank)ing bean pole. No wonder he's hurt all the time. Someone needs to send him a fridge full of steak and get him in the weight room.
Lindstrom is 6'4 216 so he's a unit and just turned 19. If he has a brain between his ears this is the unicorn athlete coaches and GM's dream of. But guys who are that height, should be that size. Maybe not at 18 but certainly at 22.
I still think there is some goofy notion in the hockey world that if guys put on lbs they'll slow down.
It doesn't need to be a pecker like TheChuck but they are gonna need a bit of a change of pace from Bedard. Celebrini definitely the dream in that regard just because it seems like he has the build and ability to play that hard, fast, 200ft game like Toews or Bergeron. I like what I've heard about Eiserman (the kid is about 200lbs as a 17 year old!) and it sounds like he's an animal. Maybe not tall but sounds like driven and a little mean.
I think any of those three would be great.
Hopefully someone is in Rinzel's ear and he's around 205-210 by the time he leaves school. |
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wiz1901
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Those seven elections in the top 70 players of the draft looks good to me.
I am taking a Russian or developmental goalie in the sixth round and maybe with that #70 selection.
I am NOT trading out for LATER picks.
Use your present roster post season discards to secure any of those apple bobbing late picks.
These 70 players look like a nice harvest.
If you look at the composition of the current hawk roster, it is easy to see there is a lot of "Hard" elements they have been asked to play, and I don't think that aspect changes as the group morphs so maybe a one player with big time edge for the junior ranks?
Oh, the effort has changed...but not the results last night. |
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