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paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Mar 24 @ 7:53 PM ET
Sarcasm Hawk, haven’t heard much complaints about Jones since that game. Appears his shoulder was bothering him before he went on IL
- LAHawk

Give it time, lots of games for Jones to (frank) up.
Ztra
Joined: 06.21.2018

Mar 24 @ 8:12 PM ET
Reichel played well. What I didn’t like and it happened several times is he gets open for a shot , but he fades away from the net when waiting for the pass, taking himself away from a prime scoring area to s less advantageous one. But his play tonight was still a positive development.
- LAHawk

Reichel is not a similar player, but has some of the same characteristics as TT. If he turns out to be a TT that is fine. But if he’s is more assertive and more physical he can be even better.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Mar 24 @ 9:45 PM ET
Hey hey Wiz!
I checked last night and saw you updated your list over at lines.
Catton now at #3?
1st d man at #4?

Catton seems like a Blackhawks pick considering he is a high end skater.
Read an interesting article about Eiserman,where some scouts say he is selfish,but his coach telling him he has to shoot more

- captainserious


I'm not ready to pass on Eiserman yet. Wish I would have seen him more than i have. Was impressed when i saw him in the U17 worlds.

Is a good comparison at his age Kaliyev? Remember Arthur falling farther in the draft than I expected
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Mar 24 @ 11:58 PM ET
I'm not ready to pass on Eiserman yet. Wish I would have seen him more than i have. Was impressed when i saw him in the U17 worlds.

Is a good comparison at his age Kaliyev? Remember Arthur falling farther in the draft than I expected

- vabeachbear


If the Hawks don’t draft 1st overall Eiserman is my pick. However, Eiserman seems to be this year’s Raty, Lambert, or Saad (or Wright to a lesser degree). I think Eiserman has more offensive talent than all of those guys (yes, even Raty) so he’s worth the risk. Could he fall to Tampa’s pick?

I have to admit, that while Eiserman is will my #1 choice (if the Hawks draft 2-4) I am warming up to Levshunov.

3-3-4-1-3

wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Mar 25 @ 12:34 AM ET
AVOID Hawk heartbreak:

No need to report 5 "Tank thon spins" anymore, just tell us your second try using these instructions:

1. Count only the second sym lottery "button" Do the Tank thon rank sim lottery one time after an initial eyes shut and a quick reset before that second sym Button hit (after reset) and report that position in your posts with the teams above them.

2.Tell us which prospect you have ranked be chosen at that draft position

3. Always list that post's ranking and teams and the entire four draft slots:
1) Seattle: Mack Celebrini
2) Columbus: Artyom Levshunov
3) San Jose: Samuel Richardinson
4) Chicago: Ivan Demidov
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Mar 25 @ 4:24 AM ET
Six Blackhawks Prospects Will Play in the Frozen Four Field



https://www.bleachernatio...in-the-frozen-four-field/

- wiz1901

captainserious
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.24.2010

Mar 25 @ 7:28 AM ET
Interesting article about Crosby


https://thehockeynews.com...-sour-pittsburgh-penguins

Dreger went on to speculate that Crosby may avoid questions regarding his future in Pittsburgh, saying he may need time to think about things.

“If he does that,” Dreger said, “We’re going to have a hell of a July 1st. Free agent frenzy is going to be buzzing.”

Even if Crosby doesn’t sign a contract this July 1, he will not be a free agent. The Penguins have him under contract through the 2024-25 season. Dreger was sure to make note of that one more year but still speculated about what may come after.

Crosby plays out next season in Pitt.
Signs as a FA with the Blackhawks the year after
Bedard begins chasing his 1st Cup,Crosby his last

I could see him going to Montreal after next season if they have a good year next year. Maybe even Colorado.
captainserious
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.24.2010

Mar 25 @ 7:34 AM ET
AVOID Hawk heartbreak:

No need to report 5 "Tank thon spins" anymore, just tell us your second try using these instructions:

1. Count only the second sym lottery "button" Do the Tank thon rank sim lottery one time after an initial eyes shut and a quick reset before that second sym Button hit (after reset) and report that position in your posts with the teams above them.



2.Tell us which prospect you have ranked be chosen at that draft position

3. Always list that post's ranking and teams and the entire four draft slots:
1) Seattle: Mack Celebrini
2) Columbus: Artyom Levshunov
3) San Jose: Samuel Richardinson
4) Chicago: Ivan Demidov

- wiz1901



Here is what I got:

16 OTT
Macklin Celebrini

26 SEA
Ivan Demidov

32 SJ
Artyom Levshunov

42 CHI
Cayden Lindstrom
Ztra
Joined: 06.21.2018

Mar 25 @ 8:11 AM ET
Interesting article about Crosby


https://thehockeynews.com...-sour-pittsburgh-penguins

Dreger went on to speculate that Crosby may avoid questions regarding his future in Pittsburgh, saying he may need time to think about things.

“If he does that,” Dreger said, “We’re going to have a hell of a July 1st. Free agent frenzy is going to be buzzing.”

Even if Crosby doesn’t sign a contract this July 1, he will not be a free agent. The Penguins have him under contract through the 2024-25 season. Dreger was sure to make note of that one more year but still speculated about what may come after.

Crosby plays out next season in Pitt.
Signs as a FA with the Blackhawks the year after
Bedard begins chasing his 1st Cup,Crosby his last

I could see him going to Montreal after next season if they have a good year next year. Maybe even Colorado.

- captainserious


Yeah right.
Hawks get the 4th pick and draft Eiserman.
Pittsburgh goes nuclear this summer and trades Crosby, Malkin and Karlsson to the Hawks retaining a good bit of salary for a package of Murphy +++. Hawks top Top 6 next year Crosby, Bedard, Malkin, Eiserman, Reichel, Nazar. Top 4 D Jones, Karlsson, Vlasic, Del Mastro. Red Font. lol
captainserious
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.24.2010

Mar 25 @ 8:33 AM ET
Yeah right.
Hawks get the 4th pick and draft Eiserman.
Pittsburgh goes nuclear this summer and trades Crosby, Malkin and Karlsson to the Hawks retaining a good bit of salary for a package of Murphy +++. Hawks top Top 6 next year Crosby, Bedard, Malkin, Eiserman, Reichel, Nazar. Top 4 D Jones, Karlsson, Vlasic, Del Mastro. Red Font. lol

- Ztra


I was joking about him coming to Chicago.
But I could see him as a FA taking less money to play somewhere for a Cup, like Colorado.
I think it would be wild if he didn't sign an extension after the season. The speculation would be nuts,and the talk would dominate the NHL all of next season.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Mar 25 @ 9:15 AM ET
I was joking about him coming to Chicago.
But I could see him as a FA taking less money to play somewhere for a Cup, like Colorado.
I think it would be wild if he didn't sign an extension after the season. The speculation would be nuts,and the talk would dominate the NHL all of next season.

- captainserious


As long as Dubas convinces Crosby he is not going to do a complete teardown, IMO Crosby stays in Pittsburgh. Same scenario as Ovechkin in Washington.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Mar 25 @ 9:51 AM ET
https://chicago.suntimes....ov-adam-gajan-nick-lardis

Gajan feeling adversity
Goaltender Adam Gajan, another second-round pick last summer, has conversely not enjoyed the kind of 19-year-old season he hoped for with Green Bay in the USHL.

His 20-10-4 record looks fine, but his save percentage has slipped to .893 after a particularly poor recent stretch. He didn't get to start either of Green Bay's games last weekend as a result.

"It’s one of the first things we talk about in development camp: nobody’s path to the NHL is an easy one that’s not going to have setbacks," Eaton said. "Adam has had what he'd consider some bad games."

The good news is Gajan has plenty of time to turn things around. He's headed to Minnesota-Duluth next season and will most likely be there for three years, by which point there will be far more data indicating whether or not he has NHL potential. Either way, his rough winter 2024 will be long forgotten.

"Our expectation from him is to use this as a turning point...to make himself better," Eaton said.


Cue the "I knew they reached for him", "KD is trying to prove he's the smartest guy in the room" crowd.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Mar 25 @ 11:19 AM ET
Also from Pope:

Murphy missed

Veteran Hawks defenseman Connor Murphy missed his 28th consecutive game. He hasn’t played since Jan. 13 because of what Richardson has described as a “soft-tissue” injury in his “middle body.”

As of Monday, Murphy hadn’t even begun skating on his own, so it seems questionable or even doubtful that he could return this season.

His absence probably hasn’t been discussed as much as it should be. Rookie defenseman Kevin Korchinski would almost certainly be faring better if paired with Murphy rather than Jaycob Megna.

“He eats 20 minutes a night, is hard defensively, has big hits . . . and has dropped the gloves a few times this year,” Seth Jones said. “He’s a big loss on the ice and off. He says stuff in the locker room that is important and is timed well for what we need.”


Not that we'll ever be able to know, but it would be interesting to see how differently KK would have progressed this year having a consistent partner the entire time.
333inthe3rd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.04.2015

Mar 25 @ 11:23 AM ET
If the Hawks don’t draft 1st overall Eiserman is my pick. However, Eiserman seems to be this year’s Raty, Lambert, or Saad (or Wright to a lesser degree). I think Eiserman has more offensive talent than all of those guys (yes, even Raty) so he’s worth the risk. Could he fall to Tampa’s pick?

I have to admit, that while Eiserman is will my #1 choice (if the Hawks draft 2-4) I am warming up to Levshunov.

3-3-4-1-3

- DarthKane


3-4-4-2-4

Looking at the remaining schedule, they'll be lucky to win more than twice. But they'll still draft fourth, right?
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Mar 25 @ 11:55 AM ET
3-4-4-2-4

Looking at the remaining schedule, they'll be lucky to win more than twice. But they'll still draft fourth, right?

- 333inthe3rd

3-4-3-3-1
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Mar 25 @ 12:05 PM ET
3-4-4-2-4

Looking at the remaining schedule, they'll be lucky to win more than twice. But they'll still draft fourth, right?

- 333inthe3rd


If they finished 2nd the Hawks odds of drafting 4th are 41.7%, the highest of any spot. 3rd is 30.7%, 2nd is 14.1% and first 13.5%. Its odd that the Hawks have similar odds to draft #1 or #2.

Correct me if I am wrong, but since 2016 the team finishing 2nd last hasn't drafted 1st or 2nd.

In 2015 2nd last drafted 2nd overall. From 2012 to 2014 the 2nd last place team drafted 1st overall.

If the Hawks finished 2nd last they should commemorate the 10 year anniversary of the Panthers being the last team to go from #2 to #1 and win the draft lottery themselves.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Mar 25 @ 12:10 PM ET
3-4-4-2-4

Looking at the remaining schedule, they'll be lucky to win more than twice. But they'll still draft fourth, right?

- 333inthe3rd


Calgary - Loss
@ Ottawa - Win
@ Philly - Loss
@ NYI - Loss
Dallas - Loss
Minnesota - Loss
@ St Louis - Win
Nashville - Loss
Carolina - Loss
@ Vegas - Loss
@ LAK - Loss





LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Mar 25 @ 12:22 PM ET
Calgary - Loss
@ Ottawa - Win
@ Philly - Loss
@ NYI - Loss
Dallas - Loss
Minnesota - Loss
@ St Louis - Win
Nashville - Loss
Carolina - Loss
@ Vegas - Loss
@ LAK - Loss

- DarthKane


Aren't you stretching it Darth with the 2 wins being away, when the Hawks have won 5 games all year on the road?
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Mar 25 @ 12:46 PM ET
Calgary - Loss
@ Ottawa - Win
@ Philly - Loss
@ NYI - Loss
Dallas - Loss
Minnesota - Loss
@ St Louis - Win
Nashville - Loss
Carolina - Loss
@ Vegas - Loss
@ LAK - Loss

- DarthKane


I'm giving them four wins to end the year. Ottawa, NYI, MN and VGK. No reasoning or explanation, just hockey is weird.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Mar 25 @ 12:47 PM ET
The Hawks will get a talented player in this years draft, and I’m okay with any of these four.

Macklin Celebrini
Cole Eiserman
Artyom Levshunov
Cayden Lindstrom
333inthe3rd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.04.2015

Mar 25 @ 12:50 PM ET
If they finished 2nd the Hawks odds of drafting 4th are 41.7%, the highest of any spot. 3rd is 30.7%, 2nd is 14.1% and first 13.5%. Its odd that the Hawks have similar odds to draft #1 or #2.

Correct me if I am wrong, but since 2016 the team finishing 2nd last hasn't drafted 1st or 2nd.

In 2015 2nd last drafted 2nd overall. From 2012 to 2014 the 2nd last place team drafted 1st overall.

If the Hawks finished 2nd last they should commemorate the 10 year anniversary of the Panthers being the last team to go from #2 to #1 and win the draft lottery themselves.

- DarthKane


Weren't the Hawks second to last in 2023? Or did Columbus "win" that tiebreaker?
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Mar 25 @ 1:00 PM ET
I remember when people were saying no one would want to sign or play for Chicago because of the Beach scandal.
- boilermaker100


I think that the Hawks excommunicating just about everyone from that time frame, being overly communicative in org policy and then bouncing Perry for what everyone seems like a minor infraction while maintaining a high standard in terms of amenities for players is probably a big deal.

Plus Chicago is an extremely attractive city for these guys to be in. Get to be the king but also not harassed everywhere you go.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Mar 25 @ 1:11 PM ET
If the Hawks don’t draft 1st overall Eiserman is my pick. However, Eiserman seems to be this year’s Raty, Lambert, or Saad (or Wright to a lesser degree). I think Eiserman has more offensive talent than all of those guys (yes, even Raty) so he’s worth the risk. Could he fall to Tampa’s pick?

I have to admit, that while Eiserman is will my #1 choice (if the Hawks draft 2-4) I am warming up to Levshunov.

3-3-4-1-3

- DarthKane


I like the Lindstrom unicorn potential. It's tough not to be enamored with that.

But I do agree with you on Eiserman. The kid seems like a worker. You don't score like he does and get to 200lbs as a 17 year old without some serious dedication in terms of diet, training and all that. And those driven guys I think are ones that hit closer to their ceiling.

FWIW Nazar seems like a guy in that boat as well albeit with a different skill set and a less thick neck.

With how obsessive Bedard is as well you start to build that kind of a culture and it's probably a good thing. Just need to fill out some spots so they have the opportunity to build on wins rather than sentiment.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Mar 25 @ 1:12 PM ET
Weren't the Hawks second to last in 2023? Or did Columbus "win" that tiebreaker?
- 333inthe3rd


Columbus ended 2nd to last in 2023.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Mar 25 @ 1:26 PM ET
I like the Lindstrom unicorn potential. It's tough not to be enamored with that.

But I do agree with you on Eiserman. The kid seems like a worker. You don't score like he does and get to 200lbs as a 17 year old without some serious dedication in terms of diet, training and all that. And those driven guys I think are ones that hit closer to their ceiling.

FWIW Nazar seems like a guy in that boat as well albeit with a different skill set and a less thick neck.

With how obsessive Bedard is as well you start to build that kind of a culture and it's probably a good thing. Just need to fill out some spots so they have the opportunity to build on wins rather than sentiment.

- fattybeef


I'd be fine with any of the guys ranked 2-5, I don't think the gap between these guys is that significant. I know GMs tend to take the best player available, but if draft prospects 2-5 have equal potential then GMKD needs to look at team needs with the 2 biggest being 1) goal scoring and 2) RHD. That's why I'd go with Eiserman or Demidov first, then Levshunov.

The challenge becomes if the Hawks draft #5 (unlikely) with Celebrini, Eiserman, Demidov and Levshunov all selected. That's where the likes of Catton or Lindstrom could come into play.

Sam D!ckinson would also be an interesting choice, but KD would have to believe he's better than most (if not all) the backlog of LHD in the pipeline.
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