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bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Mar 24 @ 4:19 PM ET
here is a hypothetical for everyone:

of course Coots deserves to be captain. but the contract term is rough. Keith Jones has said he himself was made a captain to make himself more tradeable. This situation with Coots isn't remotely similar in that one of these guys actually should be a captain. however, lets pretend we made Coots the captain to make him more attractive to a team like, say Boston.

if you can trade Coots and that contract - do you then feel better about resigning TK and making him captain?

- anti-lame


I would have no problem signing TK to an extension. The problem is your going to pay higher salary for shorter term and longer term for less salary. The flyers can’t afford either.
Unless TK gives a Renberg type of home town discount I would trade him.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 24 @ 4:23 PM ET
Bill, I've been meaning to ask about Elliot Desnoyers regression this season. Is it physical, mental, or something else?
- MBFlyerfan

Just the flyers development process
Hubby
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NS
Joined: 07.01.2019

Mar 24 @ 4:23 PM ET
Not worried about the Caps getting the win. My guess is the Caps take third and Philly fights it out with The Motor City for the second wildcard.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Mar 24 @ 4:43 PM ET
Bill, I've been meaning to ask about Elliot Desnoyers regression this season. Is it physical, mental, or something else?
- MBFlyerfan


Seems like that’s the difference between a 5th round pick and a 1st round pick. The 5th rounded may have raw skills and some better that others but they can’t quite figure out how to put it all together.
He may still need some time.
This is where teams may need to specialize developing their players. One size isn’t going to fit all.
Trainers and specialty coaches don’t count against the cap. If I was the flyers I would employ specialty guys to work with and maximize a player outside of the normal team coaching.
That coach can then let the team brass to know when if it will work out or not.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Mar 24 @ 4:44 PM ET
and i'm sure if all things are equal he'd choose the Avs over the Flyers unless we overpay. He's been good but we should take the 1st we got and run.

I like the Ginning/Attard combo. just like Seeler and Walker worked together (both playing for contracts) they were a set-it-and-forget-it type of pair. I like how its seems Ginning and Attard have each others backs, are familiar with each other and both play with the sense of urgency to stay in the lineup. I'd love to say waiting to put them into the lineup now was intentional but it's possible things like this just fall in our laps. They are both in a situation where they are fighting for their spot here and they both seem to work well together because of this. they are playing for each other as much as they are playing for themselves. ya love to see it.

i know, small sample size, but now is the time for things like this to click.

- anti-lame

Correct as it was a no brainer move. Yes one would think he would choose the Avs all things being equal.

Those 2 are only in the lineup due injuries' and circumstance. Hope they stay there though if any 2 of the 3 injured come back they will likely be out. Unless they take out Zamula which is possible.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Mar 24 @ 4:45 PM ET
here is a hypothetical for everyone:

of course Coots deserves to be captain. but the contract term is rough. Keith Jones has said he himself was made a captain to make himself more tradeable. This situation with Coots isn't remotely similar in that one of these guys actually should be a captain. however, lets pretend we made Coots the captain to make him more attractive to a team like, say Boston.

if you can trade Coots and that contract - do you then feel better about resigning TK and making him captain?

- anti-lame

No as the classic wash rinse repeat scenario.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 24 @ 4:48 PM ET
Seems like that’s the difference between a 5th round pick and a 1st round pick. The 5th rounded may have raw skills and some better that others but they can’t quite figure out how to put it all together.
He may still need some time.
This is where teams may need to specialize developing their players. One size isn’t going to fit all.
Trainers and specialty coaches don’t count against the cap. If I was the flyers I would employ specialty guys to work with and maximize a player outside of the normal team coaching.
That coach can then let the team brass to know when if it will work out or not.

- bird_dog_pa


Its just concerning to me to see him go from 23 goals and 21 assists last season to only 4 goals this season. That is pretty staggering, especially for a guy who was maybe fighting for a roster spot when training camp rolled around.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 24 @ 4:53 PM ET
Not worried about the Caps getting the win. My guess is the Caps take third and Philly fights it out with The Motor City for the second wildcard.
- Hubby


I personally think the Flyers are in. Barring a complete collapse which hasn't happened all season. With Florida's depleted lineup. They have a chance to win today.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 24 @ 4:58 PM ET
Seems like that’s the difference between a 5th round pick and a 1st round pick. The 5th rounded may have raw skills and some better that others but they can’t quite figure out how to put it all together.
He may still need some time.
This is where teams may need to specialize developing their players. One size isn’t going to fit all.
Trainers and specialty coaches don’t count against the cap. If I was the flyers I would employ specialty guys to work with and maximize a player outside of the normal team coaching.
That coach can then let the team brass to know when if it will work out or not.

- bird_dog_pa



They have that already. Angelo Ricci is the skills coach. They have a mental performance coach in Jeremy Rahn. They have a player development staff. Every NHL team has this.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Mar 24 @ 5:27 PM ET
EK's BuZztron is very confusing. And his explanation of the results 🫣
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Mar 24 @ 5:32 PM ET
They have that already. Angelo Ricci is the skills coach. They have a mental performance coach in Jeremy Rahn. They have a player development staff. Every NHL team has this.
- MJL


I understand this. I am talking specialized towards specific players and skillsets. If hiring one guy to get Desnoyers on track to be an NHL player then I would do that. Are the guts you mentioned working solely with the phantoms players.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Mar 24 @ 5:33 PM ET
EK's BuZztron is very confusing. And his explanation of the results 🫣
- THE EVIL WITHIN


Well Ek is confusing so everything is normal.
Hubby
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NS
Joined: 07.01.2019

Mar 24 @ 5:55 PM ET
I personally think the Flyers are in. Barring a complete collapse which hasn't happened all season. With Florida's depleted lineup. They have a chance to win today.
- MJL

Definitely can win against any team when goaltending is on and defensive play is locked in. Get the timely goals. I think .500 the rest of the way is achievable providing the Flyers beat the teams they are supposed to beat and give a good effort against the teams they are evenly matched or underdogs against. Thought they had two games remaining against the Caps but see they only have one. I think the Caps will get in even without Wilson for the next bit. Lindgren and Ovie will pull them through I think.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Mar 24 @ 6:22 PM ET
Hartnell is brutal 🍊
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Mar 24 @ 6:24 PM ET
How do we leave the most dangerous guy on the ice alone on a rush?
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Mar 24 @ 6:24 PM ET
Gonna be a long evening if that's what Sandstrom is providing.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 24 @ 6:25 PM ET
You cant tell me Poehling is a better option on the PP than Couturier.

And goal.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Mar 24 @ 6:25 PM ET
Backup goaltending has been brutal. How does that go in?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 24 @ 6:26 PM ET
That's a penalty they say?
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Mar 24 @ 6:26 PM ET
Holding????
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 24 @ 6:27 PM ET
Don't like that call. Both battling for position. Farabee won the battle.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Mar 24 @ 6:29 PM ET
That's a penalty they say?
- 2Real

Hate to admit it but that’s a good call
Hubby
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NS
Joined: 07.01.2019

Mar 24 @ 6:29 PM ET
Don't like that call. Both battling for position. Farabee won the battle.
- MJL

Agreed. Gotta keep digging
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Mar 24 @ 6:30 PM ET
Gonna be a long evening if that's what Sandstrom is providing.
- Pelle31Forever

Yea, the foundation for the 2 wins over the Panthers was stellar goaltending.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 24 @ 6:32 PM ET
Hartnell is brain numb. He says "what a kill by the Flyers".
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