I’m sure the family of Kyle Marisa Roth isn’t joking about the Cabal lately
- Swedish_Jesus

You mess with the Ca and you get the bal...everyone knows that.

But Girgenson is a FA, so does that really count as on the roster?
- The Don

touche

Points aren't everything, but, to me, scoring 30g is a good sign you're at minimum, a top6 forward and more likely you're a 1st liner. There were 46 guys who accomplished this in 2023-24, so that bar seems fair. There are playmakers who will be the assist guys who should account for the other 45 or so. Are there non 1st line players who score 30? Absolutely. But, IMO, most of those guys are tweeners and almost all are top6 forwards. It's difficult to luck into that kind of production, that's all I mean.

If you can get 90g out of your top line, that's a decent line that can get the job done. The Bruins just did it with 85g from their top line, as an example. We know Tuch, Peterka and Tuch all have this ability, so I don't see it as some big reach to say we can ice a competitive top line.
- QuinnFan

Points are deceptive, for sure. Opportunity plays a huge role. We'll see a number of better 2nd lines in the playoffs than the Sabres top line.

Tuch looks a lot more like a middle 6 (and everything clicked for a career year) than an above average 1st liner. At 28, not sure we should expect more. If he rounds out your top line, it can work, but the other 2 need to be difference makers. If Tage is just average, it all falls apart.

The Sabres had a top line, it just took the Meatstick 70 games to put it together
- Swedish_Jesus

Some truth to this, Skinner was dragging them down for three quarters of the year. Too many giveaways in the o-zone.

That's another reason, in the lengthy list of them, why I think Meatball cost us a playoff birth this year.

Points are deceptive, for sure. Opportunity plays a huge role. We'll see a number of better 2nd lines in the playoffs than the Sabres top line.

Tuch looks a lot more like a middle 6 (and everything clicked for a career year) than an above average 1st liner. At 28, not sure we should expect more. If he rounds out your top line, it can work, but the other 2 need to be difference makers. If Tage is just average, it all falls apart.
- Lunaion

I get where you're coming from with Tuch's age, he will start regressing eventually, but not yet. The last 20 or so games of the year showed me he still has "it". But have to say, I think Tage will reemerge as one of the premier snipers in the league next year. Playing through a broken hand or wrist, for a shooter, is normally a death sentence for the year and he still potted 29gs.

The Sabres had a top line, it just took the Meatstick 70 games to put it together
- Swedish_Jesus

JJ, Tage, Tuch 44% xGF 39% HDCF
JJ, Cozens, Benson 50% xGF 49% HDCF
JJ, Cozens, Quinn 62% xGF 62% HDCF

They may have found it a year ago. Quinn's impact at both ends is huge.

Anyone see that report that Terry has sold all his sports franchises, except the Bills?

I'm sure it's bullcr@p, but has anyone with any REAL sources quashed this?

Some truth to this, Skinner was dragging them down for three quarters of the year. Too many giveaways in the o-zone.

That's another reason, in the lengthy list of them, why I think Meatball cost us a playoff birth this year.
- QuinnFan

The PP alone costed them a spot.

I get where you're coming from with Tuch's age, he will start regressing eventually, but not yet. The last 20 or so games of the year showed me he still has "it". But have to say, I think Tage will reemerge as one of the premier snipers in the league next year. Playing through a broken hand or wrist, for a shooter, is normally a death sentence for the year and he still potted 29gs.
- QuinnFan

Let's see how a new coach handles it. With Donnie, I always expected bad lineup decisions. Looking forward to some change, and not the move Okposo/Girgs up in the lineup type change.

Poor Donnie.


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What can Sabres players do next season to hold themselves accountable?

Mattias Samuelsson: “I think we could definitely practice way harder and that will start at training camp next year. … More mentally engaged and maybe with a little bit more purpose or objective.”

Anyone see that report that Terry has sold all his sports franchises, except the Bills?

I'm sure it's bullcr@p, but has anyone with any REAL sources quashed this?
- Powerslave

But Girgenson is a FA, so does that really count as on the roster?
- The Don

oh my

There are two on the roster right now
- Swedish_Jesus

any all stars?

RIP Richardey Betts

Got to meet him briefly in the 90s and was impressed with how he could play so well while obviously stoned out of his mind...and by how short he was.

Anyone see that report that Terry has sold all his sports franchises, except the Bills?

I'm sure it's bullcr@p, but has anyone with any REAL sources quashed this?
- Powerslave

Not seen that. Link?

Anyone see that report that Terry has sold all his sports franchises, except the Bills?

I'm sure it's bullcr@p, but has anyone with any REAL sources quashed this?
- Powerslave

That's a no

RIP Richardey Betts

Got to meet him briefly in the 90s and was impressed with how he could play so well while obviously stoned out of his mind...and by how short he was.
- LandlordTom

saw them in 98

before trucks and haynes

he carried the band on his shoulders

Anyone see that report that Terry has sold all his sports franchises, except the Bills?

I'm sure it's bullcr@p, but has anyone with any REAL sources quashed this?
- Powerslave

Don't tease me

RIP Richardey Betts

Got to meet him briefly in the 90s and was impressed with how he could play so well while obviously stoned out of his mind...and by how short he was.
- LandlordTom

Used to see the Brothers every year in the 90's/2000's, both with and without him. It was time for him to go when he did. Thought he was bringing them down at the end of his tenure, or at least holding them back. Anyway, RIP Richardey. Was a great run.

That's a no
- gerbe75pts

Can you turn that into a yes?

That's a no
- gerbe75pts

Thank you. I didn't think so.

The PP alone costed them a spot.
- Swedish_Jesus

It was multifactorial, but probably. What do you think is a bigger thing, that or the coaching?

Let's see how a new coach handles it. With Donnie, I always expected bad lineup decisions. Looking forward to some change, and not the move Okposo/Girgs up in the lineup type change.
- Lunaion

Well said.

Not seen that. Link?
- ImThatGuy

It's a guy with less Twitter followers than I have on my Pandamonium account, which is comprised mostly of sports cards and bad Sabres takes...

saw them in 98

before trucks and haynes

he carried the band on his shoulders
- homiedclown

Warren Haynes