I would love to believe there is but the reality is no team will trade what the Flyers need which is a true 1C for a winger, especially one that is all around a very good player but not elite. - jd250
I would love to believe there is but the reality is no team will trade what the Flyers need which is a true 1C for a winger, especially one that is all around a very good player but not elite. - jd250
surplus being the keyword to even start that conversation and i'd imagine we'd have to include more to get a center good enough to move the needle and young enough to fit the timeline
if they are rebuilding no need to buy out. - hello it's me 2050
1. It saves actual money.
2. It prevents Jorts/Lappy (or hopefully their successors) from giving playing time to over-the-hill/overpaid vets, whether at the NHL or AHL level.
3. It gives those bought out another chance elsewhere and prevents them from becoming (or remaining as) team cancers--it's a respectful move for the organization.
also do not see any top end Free agent coming here unless a massive overpay
Or anywhere else. Not a single guy on that brief list is going to take a discount.
It’s a joke! I would never do it as a GM. Kid will be good next year playing with Karlsson but IMO no where near the impact Smith will have on San Jose. - jd250
Happened in Chicago this weekend too. Nazar signed his ELC, will maybe get 2 games, and 1st year is done. GM's willing to do it, because they want to make the top prospects happy, and get them under contract.
It makes so much sense as an extra bargaining chip for the team or motivationfor the player.
1. It saves actual money.
2. It prevents Jorts/Lappy (or hopefully their successors) from giving playing time to over-the-hill/overpaid vets, whether at the NHL or AHL level.
3. It gives those bought out another chance elsewhere and prevents them from becoming (or remaining as) team cancers--it's a respectful move for the organization.
Or anywhere else. Not a single guy on that brief list is going to take a discount. - Pelle Schultz
- why do you need out save money if your rebuilding? let the contracts run out
- nah as they will just get another vet. not like many are beating down the door anyway
quite honestly i see them doing very little. they like their guys. so anyone hoping to strip to bare is going to be disappointed. i see a TK extension. i see them keeping laughton. perhaps a cal buyout and risto trade?
Depending on how the Flyers season ends I can absolutely see them making moves and signing players to take a “step forward.” They won’t take a step back. TK 8 year extension incoming. No Laughton trade unless significant overpay.
I’m thinking at least a D man is brought in. - StepfordSam
Dude, do you want to say 8 year TK extension incoming for the 55th time? We get it already! Thanx!
I am more worried about the term. 8 years for a player who will be 36 at the end of his deal, who is a bit injury prone, who is not elite, is just bad business. - MBFlyerfan
Just added a line that might have been forgotten.No offense meant.
You can never rule out 2, but 1 is very unlikely. If a big deal takes place, it'll probably be at or right before the draft. Number 3 is by far the most likely.
Much depends on what happens with buyouts. The Flyers will already be carrying $5.2 million against the cap for the Hayes trade (until 2026, thanks Cuck) and TDA buyout (done after 2024-25 season). There are three obvious buyout candidates in Atkinson, Petersen and Johansen. If the Flyers are truly rebuilding, they should buy out all three at a cost of roughly $5 million against the cap for the next two seasons.
Actual combined cap hits for buying out all three are:
2024-25: $4.7 million
2025-26: $5.1 million
So that's $10 million (with Hayes and TDA) in dead cap for 2024-25 and about $9 million (-TDA) for 2025-26. If Johansen's mystery injury persists, stash him on LTIR for the duration a la Ryan Ellis and those numbers improve a little. Yes, it means absorbing dead cap over the following two seasons. But it also leaves the Flyers with no dead cap costs when the current/future crop of recent draftees are starting to enter the lineup, Michkov arrives and Foerster/Cates/Frost/York sign their next deals (all RFA after the 2024-25 season).
There are some intriguing under-30 UFA possibilities in 2025 (Marner, Draisaitl, Rantanen) and 2026 (McDavid, Eichel, Kaprizov). Obviously most of those guys will be re-signed, but how many $10+ million/year contracts are Toronto, Edmonton and Colorado going to absorb, particularly if they don't succeed in the playoffs? In any scenario, why would McDavid and Draisaitl settle for anythng less than a max contract that will probably be north of $18 million/year by the time they are UFAs?
Ideally the Flyers would be in a clean position cap-wise to invest in the #1 center or D-man (or even goaltender, if that turns out to be the case) that doesn't currently exist in their system. But knowing the Flyers, they won't be able to resist overpaying a few mid-level UFAs and muddy this scenario. I expect Konecny will be re-signed to a big deal and Laughton will only go as part of a 'hockey' trade. - Pelle Schultz
If the Flyers are truly rebuilding, why should they buy out all 3 players and extend the cap hits? If they're truly rebuilding, why do they need the cap space that buyouts would give initially. If they're truly rebuilding, they should do the opposite. Let the contracts ride out and be completely done with them after next season. Bury all 3 in the AHL.
The Flyers need to stay out of high level UFA's completely.
