I don't hate Mitch at all, but I do hate having that much cap space taken up by a player that will never play physically and can only put up points in wide open games. Those games rarely exist in the playoffs.
- Whipper

Too many leafs fans like to marnerbate

The crying about marner has begun?

Geez.
- Fakepartofme

Begun? Where have you been?

Career Regular Season .337 goals per game, .773 assists per game

Career playoffs .192 goals per game, .712 assists per game



The passing remains, the scoring becomes a problem.
- BINGO!

He shoots from further out in playoffs, in the reg season, marner gets closer to the net. Playoffs, space aint so easy. But marner isnt a goal scorer, hea a playmaker, i thought people knew that?

Too many leafs fans like to marnerbate
- Dozzer

Nah, Nylander is the sexy one

Because.

Marner.

Sucks.

A weak ass pass first guy whose career looks better than it should due to Matthews.
- Dozzer

100% agreed!

Great...not great better words are..."fun to watch hockey player" in the regular season. Absolutely sucks in the playoffs....so far, still hoping his balls drop.

I'd be happy to eat my words but he does NOT deserve a pay raise.

So he will be hated for being overpaid on his next deal or he walks for nothing or a sign and trade is all there is to look forward to with him.

He shoots from further out, in the reg season, marner gets closer to the net. Playoffs, space aint so easy. But marner isnt a goal scorer, hea a playmaker, i thought people knew that?
- Fakepartofme

He's a goal scorer too, though. Four straight years of 30+ goal scoring pace says you're a scorer.

I'm guessing you'll see the same trend for every Leaf.
- Atomic Wedgie

most likely
big $$ not earning when it counts

I don't hate Mitch at all, but I do hate having that much cap space taken up by a player that will never play physically and can only put up points in wide open games. Those games rarely exist in the playoffs.
- Whipper

He has 50 playoff points.....so i guess they do exist, or he eventually finds a way?

Theyve overpaid willie, they hopefully dont overpay marner anymore.
Hopefully he takes 11.5m like willie, if he wants 13m....it will be elsewhere

Look Marner's a great player.

He's just probably not the guy you want to build around.

Luckily, the Leafs don't have to, so it's fine. Just hold him accountable when he bails on a play and then carry on.

He has 50 playoff points.....so i guess they do exist, or he eventually finds a way?

Theyve overpaid willie, they hopefully dont overpay marner anymore.
Hopefully he takes 11.5m like willie, if he wants 13m....it will be elsewhere
- Fakepartofme

He already makes $10.9… he’s going to be after more than a $600K raise so just be honest with yourself and let the little wimpy ass female dog go.

Begun? Where have you been?
- AdamFrench

Guess they gotta whine about something.
Its only game 2 of the first series.
Geez

So much for being fans of your teams players when they are in a playoff fight.

Look Marner's a great player.

He's just probably not the guy you want to build around.

Luckily, the Leafs don't have to, so it's fine. Just hold him accountable when he bails on a play and then carry on.
- BINGO!

My wild guess is he's nursing an injury.

He has 50 playoff points.....so i guess they do exist, or he eventually finds a way?

Theyve overpaid willie, they hopefully dont overpay marner anymore.
Hopefully he takes 11.5m like willie, if he wants 13m....it will be elsewhere
- Fakepartofme

Yeah, but if you remove the 5 from 50, he has 0.

100% agreed!

Great...not great better words are..."fun to watch hockey player" in the regular season. Absolutely sucks in the playoffs....so far, still hoping his balls drop.

I'd be happy to eat my words but he does NOT deserve a pay raise.

So he will be hated for being overpaid on his next deal or he walks for nothing or a sign and trade is all there is to look forward to with him.
- underhill14

Everyone who plays with Matthews has their points “magically” increase.. except for Marner I guess… he’s special *rolls eyes*

My wild guess is he's nursing an injury.
- Atomic Wedgie

Oh and he gets excuses too… how cute

My wild guess is he's nursing an injury.
- Atomic Wedgie

For 5 years?!? Unlikely.

He's a goal scorer too, though. Four straight years of 30+ goal scoring pace says you're a scorer.
- BINGO!

Of course he can score, but hes a playmaker first.
Matthews and willie are more of goal scorers overall.

You are the person responsible for my one and only ban…Bastard.
- Woderwick

you are welcome, someone had to pop that cherry

Somebody who knows stats should post:

Marner PPG Regular Season =

Marner PPG Playoff hockey =

That would probably squelch the argument a bit for some. Not for me though.



I am NO fan of pussies playing hockey. If you can't throw a nice hit or take a big hit, get a Curling gig.

As far as I'm concerned, I would trade Nylander and Marner for some real hockey players.

I look at other teams line ups and rarely see players getting paid that much that ONLY do certain parts of the game.

Matthews and Nathan MacKinnon, for me, are the perfect players...Nathan especially. (Matthews could up his edge a bit, but he doesn't shy away and digs in so I'll allow getting beat up by Stamkos/PLD to slide)

Yeah, but if you remove the 5 from 50, he has 0.
- Zezel

Thats true.
My bad.

Where ya been?

Thats true.
My bad.

Where ya been?
- Fakepartofme

Touring with the Stones.

Touring with the Stones.
- Zezel

kidney stones?

Touring with the Stones.
- Zezel

Like all the greats eh

kidney stones?
- Symba007

No, the more I hear about those things the less fun they sound.

Guess they gotta whine about something.
Its only game 2 of the first series.
Geez

So much for being fans of your teams players when they are in a playoff fight.
- Fakepartofme

It's a "whine" to point out that in a hotly contested series for a team that has not won much in the playoffs never mind the championship in over a half a century that their highest paid players are doing the least amount of work and showing the least amount of effort?!?!


JT, slow as poop. Not worth $11.

Marner, MIA as poop. Not worth $12m on his next deal.

Nylander, FFS with this kid. Not worth $11.5M.


Give me Pastarnak, MacKinnon, Draisaitle, JT Miller types all (frank)ing day long.