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funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Apr 23 @ 8:48 PM ET
Yeah because Friedman knows. Did ihe cite his source? No? Great. So it’s hearsay? Gotcha. Until someone from front office states why they didn’t sign him we simply don’t know for sure.

Could it have been the reason sold to some twits? Sure. But ask yourself what (frank)ing sense does it make? It’s not even logical. They could’ve made any number of moves to have his signing NOT CREATE an overage. It’s a stupid low bar excuse that only a non logical thinking person would accept.

And maybe just maybe they used that excuse with cg but again I ask you how logical is that it would’ve been the real reason when….
1) it would be very very easy to avoid an overage by making simple roster adjustments
2) wouldn’t a team (if they thought player was ready) of cg skill and talent do ANYTHING to make him happy AND get him on roster as fast as possible (if he’s ready).


Makes no sense at all the excuse Friedman says.

- Stayin alive

I don’t think it’s hard to believe the flyers would make stupid decisions at all (whatever they were)
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Apr 23 @ 8:54 PM ET
It was reported by reliable sources. I'm not presuming anything.

The Flyers offered Gauthier a contract in May of 2023. As an NCAA player, signing a contract would end his NCAA eligibility. Why would they offer him a contract in May of 2023 if the Flyers wanted him to play another year in college in 23/24?

- MJL



You saw this mythical contract that was offered in May/23? Or is this another Friedman report? Or presumed?


Because again when did the team or player say a contract offer was presented? Oh didn’t? Shocker.

You mean flyers got nervous when after a few months of no contact from cg camp they became nervous and starting trying to press communication with cg.


Let me save you the expense. There was no contract offer.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 23 @ 8:54 PM ET
Yes surely that was the reason. For the small minded non critical thinking sheep. Only ones that could buy that excuse
- Stayin alive


Again, you have a reading comprehension issue. I didn't say I believed it. I said that was the reported issue given. Don't be a fool.

Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Apr 23 @ 8:55 PM ET
I don’t think it’s hard to believe the flyers would make stupid decisions at all (whatever they were)
- funmaster18



You know what… I can buy that A LOT than the bs narrative and lame ass excuses that aren’t logical at all
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 23 @ 8:59 PM ET
You saw this mythical contract that was offered in May/23? Or is this another Friedman report? Or presumed?


Because again when did the team or player say a contract offer was presented? Oh didn’t? Shocker.

You mean flyers got nervous when after a few months of no contact from cg camp they became nervous and starting trying to press communication with cg.


Let me save you the expense. There was no contract offer.

- Stayin alive


You're acting like an idiot. You're calling out other people for presuming things, yet here you are, making unsubstantiated claims that are not supported with any evidence or by any reliable source. It is well documented that the Flyers offered Gauthier a contract in May of 23. It is well documented that the Flyers made many attempts to get a contract. Including Jones and Briere flying to Sweden at the World Championships to try and talk to Gauthier and find out why he wouldn't sign. Why would they have done all this if they wanted him to play another college season.

As usual, you're uninformed.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Apr 23 @ 9:00 PM ET
Again, you have a reading comprehension issue. I didn't say I believed it. I said that was the reported issue given. Don't be a fool.
- MJL

K bud. Lick taint. You been using this bs for awhile. Remember I couldn’t be right that db just simply didn’t think he was ready to be pro because it was reported overage was reason.

It doesn’t matter if you believe it twit. You spew it. You shot down someone else and cited overage as reason he had to go back to college saying he was wrong. Presumably.

If you don’t believe the bs why to say it was reported? Especially without ever once stating you don’t believe the excuse.

Nah because you bought it. But now that I showed you just how stupid of an excuse it actually is and you realize that once again I’m right you feel duped and stupid.


It’s ok tho. I’m here to help open eyes
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Apr 23 @ 9:05 PM ET
You're acting like an idiot. You're calling out other people for presuming things, yet here you are, making unsubstantiated claims that are not supported with any evidence or by any reliable source. It is well documented that the Flyers offered Gauthier a contract in May of 23. It is well documented that the Flyers made many attempts to get a contract. Including Jones and Briere flying to Sweden at the World Championships to try and talk to Gauthier and find out why he wouldn't sign. Why would they have done all this if they wanted him to play another college season.

As usual, you're uninformed.

- MJL



Keep doubling down dummy. Show any PROOF anyone went to see why cg wouldn’t sign this supposed contract.


I don’t give a (frank) who reports there was a contract. Where did db SAY he submitted contract to cg or agent?

Where did cg agent state they received a contract?

NOWHERE. DID THOSE PEOPLE MAKE THAT PUBLIC

Do you get this or no? Do you know what hearsay is? Look it up. I said you’re a dumb mother (frank)er. So because I reported it makes it so. Keep wiggling twit.

And I NEVER called other posters out I called YOU out specifically. Moron
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 23 @ 9:10 PM ET
K bud. Lick taint. You been using this bs for awhile. Remember I couldn’t be right that db just simply didn’t think he was ready to be pro because it was reported overage was reason.

It doesn’t matter if you believe it twit. You spew it. You shot down someone else and cited overage as reason he had to go back to college saying he was wrong. Presumably.

If you don’t believe the bs why to say it was reported? Especially without ever once stating you don’t believe the excuse.

Nah because you bought it. But now that I showed you just how stupid of an excuse it actually is and you realize that once again I’m right you feel duped and stupid.


It’s ok tho. I’m here to help open eyes

- Stayin alive


Incorrect on many levels. You're here to obviously make a fool of yourself.

The Flyers offered Gauthier a contract in May of 2023. After his first college season was over. They didn't want him to play a second college season. They wanted to sign him. Those are the documented facts.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Apr 23 @ 9:13 PM ET
What gm was giving Ivan that deal? Oh no one. Cool.

Meanwhile bob with save of the playoffs
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 23 @ 9:13 PM ET
https://www.reddit.com/r/Flyers/comments/192m3kj/elliotte_friedman_word_is_philly_didnt_want_a/
- TheFreak


Such a dumb reason to alienate one of your top prospects.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 23 @ 9:15 PM ET
Keep doubling down dummy. Show any PROOF anyone went to see why cg wouldn’t sign this supposed contract.


I don’t give a (frank) who reports there was a contract. Where did db SAY he submitted contract to cg or agent?

Where did cg agent state they received a contract?

NOWHERE. DID THOSE PEOPLE MAKE THAT PUBLIC

Do you get this or no? Do you know what hearsay is? Look it up. I said you’re a dumb mother (frank)er. So because I reported it makes it so. Keep wiggling twit.

And I NEVER called other posters out I called YOU out specifically. Moron

- Stayin alive


I'm laughing hysterically. You're drinking again aren't you?



Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Apr 23 @ 9:24 PM ET
Incorrect on many levels. You're here to obviously make a fool of yourself.

The Flyers offered Gauthier a contract in May of 2023. After his first college season was over. They didn't want him to play a second college season. They wanted to sign him. Those are the documented facts.

- MJL



Hey twit. Try to follow along. It’s not DOCUMENTED you stupid (frank). Show the contract. Show where db and cg or agent stated contract was sitting in cg office waiting to be signed. You won’t find it twit.

Hey dumb (frank) what you mean is it’s been REPORTED. There’s a huge difference.

Documented is fact. Reported is poop. You keep saying it’s been ducumented by all these people. Except can’t provide documentation from the main players themselves.


You’ve been duped. And fell hook line a one sinker.

Try to think logically BY YOUR OWN STATEMENTS IN PAST logically how COULD there be a contract ? You have said cg after not getting signed in March /23 ghosted Philly. Right? Follow along.

If cg ghosted them
And told agent he wouldn’t sign with them
Stopped all communication
Wouldn’t meet leclair
Wouldn’t meet db/jones

How could there be a contract in 5/23 2 months later ? Lmmfao that you buy there was a contract.


Here’s a clue the team AND THE (frank)ING PLAYER HAVE TO AGREE TO THE CONTRACT.


IF CG didn’t talk to philly and told agent not gonna sign how could cg agree to a contract?


Now ask yourself WHO WANTS IT TO BE KNOWN THE PLAYER REFUSED TO SIGN A CONTRACT?

Ummmm that would be flyers because they lost cg for poop Drysdale and didn’t have a (frank)ing clue how to handle the situation like a professional.

As evidenced by EVERTTHING they did to smear an immature kid.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Apr 23 @ 9:24 PM ET
So funny watching Stayin troll everyone so hard and they are all buying it responding. Excellent job Stayin.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 23 @ 9:24 PM ET
Maybe the most spectacular display of goaltending I have ever seen in a period. Wow
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Apr 23 @ 9:25 PM ET
Such a dumb reason to alienate one of your top prospects.
- Tomahawk

Yeah it’s almost like it doesn’t make sense huh? Because NO TEAM does that. EVER.

JUST MAYBE ITS BS
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Apr 23 @ 9:27 PM ET
I'm laughing hysterically. You're drinking again aren't you?
- MJL

Keep laughing retard. Keep believing the stupid ass excuses spewed involving this team. Keep cited those that report the stupid excuses. Keep thinking like a retard.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Apr 23 @ 9:27 PM ET
So funny watching Stayin troll everyone so hard and they are all buying it responding. Excellent job Stayin.
- furio16

Lmao
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Apr 23 @ 9:34 PM ET
So funny watching Stayin troll everyone so hard and they are all buying it responding. Excellent job Stayin.
- furio16

If you have kids you learn to sniff out the bs stories and excuses when toddlers lie to get out of trouble. That’s how flyers act.

And these fans buy it. Every damn time. Oh it was widely reported. Lmao. Always an excuse with Philly to try to distract from main goal. Priority one make money status quo.

Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Apr 23 @ 10:27 PM ET
Where’s mjl? Still waiting …. How could cg agree to mythical contract in 5/23 that philly wanted him to sign if he stopped communicating with them in 3/23?

Are you stupid enough to think a contract can be offered or would be offered with no communication with player? If so why would you be surprised a player wouldn’t sign a contract without any negotiations at all between them?


Where ya at mjl. Or are you checking with all the twits that reported db wanted to know why cg wouldn’t sign in 5/23
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 23 @ 11:11 PM ET
Bobrovsky! 😂😂😂

I gave never seen a goalie jump sideways to make a save with his back to the shooter before.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Apr 24 @ 1:43 AM ET
Bobrovsky! 😂😂😂

I gave never seen a goalie jump sideways to make a save with his back to the shooter before.

- PT21

Boosh
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 24 @ 6:55 AM ET
Boosh
- Stayin alive
Good one! Yeah, Boosh did it back in the 2000 playoffs against the Devils. Let's face it...while it is a spectacular play it is also filled with luck. I mean, when the goalie isn't even looking at the shooter he is just flailing and hoping that the puck hits him.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 24 @ 7:14 AM ET
That he knows more about hockey in his little finger than you do?
- MJL

Rocky Thompson has been playing an coaching his entire life, thus its plain stupid to suggest he doesn't know how to coach the PP. A lot of the success or failure on the power player is on the players, their skillset, their chemistry, etc. I believe the players are a bigger problem than the coaches.

The last time the Flyers had a 20% powerplay was the when AV coached, and who coached the Power play then? Oh that's right, Michel Therrien, the coach you said isn't qualified to coach the power play. Kris Knoblauch had the Flyers at 20% (and mind you this is only league average) in 2017-2018. And everyone talks about the great Jou Mullen, but under his watch the Flyers were basically league average except in the 2014-2015 when they clicked at 23%. What happened after that season, did Mullin forget how to coach the power play?

No, when you look at the evidence, the players have much more impact on the power play than the coaching. That being said, this season not only did the Flyers have the worst PP in the league, they looked really, really bad on the PP. Its for this reason and this reason only I say it's incompetence if the Flyers don't replace Thompson with a new voice.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 24 @ 7:14 AM ET
Bobrovsky! 😂😂😂

I gave never seen a goalie jump sideways to make a save with his back to the shooter before.

- PT21

Hasek did it routinely.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 24 @ 7:17 AM ET
Hey twit. Try to follow along. It’s not DOCUMENTED you stupid (frank). Show the contract. Show where db and cg or agent stated contract was sitting in cg office waiting to be signed. You won’t find it twit.

Hey dumb (frank) what you mean is it’s been REPORTED. There’s a huge difference.

Documented is fact. Reported is poop. You keep saying it’s been ducumented by all these people. Except can’t provide documentation from the main players themselves.


You’ve been duped. And fell hook line a one sinker.

Try to think logically BY YOUR OWN STATEMENTS IN PAST logically how COULD there be a contract ? You have said cg after not getting signed in March /23 ghosted Philly. Right? Follow along.

If cg ghosted them
And told agent he wouldn’t sign with them
Stopped all communication
Wouldn’t meet leclair
Wouldn’t meet db/jones

How could there be a contract in 5/23 2 months later ? Lmmfao that you buy there was a contract.


Here’s a clue the team AND THE (frank)ING PLAYER HAVE TO AGREE TO THE CONTRACT.


IF CG didn’t talk to philly and told agent not gonna sign how could cg agree to a contract?


Now ask yourself WHO WANTS IT TO BE KNOWN THE PLAYER REFUSED TO SIGN A CONTRACT?

Ummmm that would be flyers because they lost cg for poop Drysdale and didn’t have a (frank)ing clue how to handle the situation like a professional.

As evidenced by EVERTTHING they did to smear an immature kid.

- Stayin alive

Danny Briere stated that in May of 2023 he had a scheduled call with Quitter and his camp and was prepared to offer him a contract at that time and have him come to camp with the intention of trying out for the Flyers. It was in that meeting when Briere stated he was informed that Quitter did not want to sign with the Flyers, and that according to Briere was the last time he and Quitter spoke.
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