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hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Apr 24 @ 9:16 AM ET
read elsewhere that Charlie said RYJO wanted to make it work and reached to Torts. Flyers were not interested.

So a guy who payed every game for the avs then ttied to make it work is all of a sudden hurt and cant play again? Cant wait to see how this unfolds in the coming months.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Apr 24 @ 9:21 AM ET
not part of the equation in flyer land. playoffs is the goal next season. They will be in for a rude awakening.
- hello it's me 2050


I hope youre wrong, draft day should be telling if they off load some "talent". If not , its same old
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 24 @ 9:22 AM ET
LOL, if we look at the PP, what do we see. Do we see a clear strategy. A clear objective of what they're trying to do? Are they trying to isolate mini 3 on 2's down low. Are they trying to get traffic to the net and put shots on goal. Is there good puck movement to create openings such as cross ice goal mouth plays or passes to the bumper position? No, what we see is confusion, hesitation with the puck. Perimeter passing with no objective behind it. Weak plays that have little percentage of succeeding. We saw this not in short spurts but in the entire time over multiple seasons with Thompson coaching the PP. While we can certainly look at the talent available as a reason. We also see the lack of structure and strategy on the PP. We see that it has not been improved in his tenure as the coach of it.

Apparently though according to you though, it's due to not being the right fit for these players. That he knows how to coach the PP but he's just not good at it? LOL
And I'm the blockhead. Is that another term of endearment. Remember now that in recent posts you've called me an idiot and a blockhead. When your stupidity is called out and you're called an idiot or worse, don't whine and female dog like a little schoolgirl and claim that you want to keep it to hockey.

- MJL


One of your best posts in a long time. It also extends to their 5 vs 5 offensive strategy, which is just get passing it around the perimeter hoping that the other team blows an assignment?

It’s not like they’re trying and failing, we would be able to see a hint of daylight if that’s the case. There is no strategy period. No defined roles. Nothing
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Apr 24 @ 9:22 AM ET
The best goalie in the NHL with a > 5.0 GAA and a 870 SP, so far
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 24 @ 9:23 AM ET
read elsewhere that Charlie said RYJO wanted to make it work and reached to Torts. Flyers were not interested.

So a guy who payed every game for the avs then ttied to make it work is all of a sudden hurt and cant play again? Cant wait to see how this unfolds in the coming months.

- hello it's me 2050


There’s no injury. If there is the GM doesn’t know much of anything about it. He sure knew all the details of risto’s. I tend to believe this.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 24 @ 9:29 AM ET
loyalty and nepotism is a great thing
- hello it's me 2050

True….but that will only get you so far…that definitely got him in the door to coaching….eventually you need to show what you can add.
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Apr 24 @ 9:34 AM ET
True….but that will only get you so far…that definitely got him in the door to coaching….eventually you need to show what you can add.
- landros 2


We have witnessed what he adds. Nothing - full stop. The PP is as disaster and has been for a long time. At some point they need to bring in a Coach to strip it down and build it back up. But the Flyers are retaining Rocky and bringing in the band of advisors across the organization b/c the HC and PP Coach can't figure it out.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 24 @ 9:38 AM ET
We have witnessed what he adds. Nothing - full stop. The PP is as disaster and has been for a long time. At some point they need to bring in a Coach to strip it down and build it back up. But the Flyers are retaining Rocky and bringing in the band of advisors across the organization b/c the HC and PP Coach can't figure it out.
- Flyfly


I’m on record saying …like anyone cares about my record….I think they should make changes with the coaching PP. The PP is not some mystical puzzle. There is no way it should ever be that bad.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Apr 24 @ 9:48 AM ET
read elsewhere that Charlie said RYJO wanted to make it work and reached to Torts. Flyers were not interested.

So a guy who payed every game for the avs then ttied to make it work is all of a sudden hurt and cant play again? Cant wait to see how this unfolds in the coming months.

- hello it's me 2050


With the limited center depth on this team; if this is true it is almost criminal
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Apr 24 @ 9:48 AM ET
True….but that will only get you so far…that definitely got him in the door to coaching….eventually you need to show what you can add.
- landros 2

well he hasnt shown anything to me in 2 years.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 24 @ 10:04 AM ET
One of your best posts in a long time. It also extends to their 5 vs 5 offensive strategy, which is just get passing it around the perimeter hoping that the other team blows an assignment?

It’s not like they’re trying and failing, we would be able to see a hint of daylight if that’s the case. There is no strategy period. No defined roles. Nothing

- Just5


Every post I make is a good post. That's why the troll brigade gets their panties in a bunch and they struggle so hard to try and get at me. I just laugh.

The Flyers biggest issue is lack of elite talent. Their coaching does not help, especially on the PP. They have the offensive talent to have a better PP.
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Apr 24 @ 10:07 AM ET
I’m on record saying …like anyone cares about my record….I think they should make changes with the coaching PP. The PP is not some mystical puzzle. There is no way it should ever be that bad.
- landros 2



I care Landros . LOL... I think your use of "mystical puzzle" is spot on. I honestly think they need to break it all down and rebuild whatever the heck they are trying to do. I honestly rather have a PK than a PP with how bad it is. At least we score on the PK.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 24 @ 10:07 AM ET
We have witnessed what he adds. Nothing - full stop. The PP is as disaster and has been for a long time. At some point they need to bring in a Coach to strip it down and build it back up. But the Flyers are retaining Rocky and bringing in the band of advisors across the organization b/c the HC and PP Coach can't figure it out.
- Flyfly


They need an offensive assistant to come in and not only restructure the PP but also their 5 on 5 offensive approach. The issue is that the head coach will never allow that. It would require him relinquishing some of his non negotiable principles. As well as relinquishing some control. Thompson is staying for one reason and one reason only. Tortorella wants him to stay.
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Apr 24 @ 10:13 AM ET
They need an offensive assistant to come in and not only restructure the PP but also their 5 on 5 offensive approach. The issue is that the head coach will never allow that. It would require him relinquishing some of his non negotiable principles. As well as relinquishing some control. Thompson is staying for one reason and one reason only. Tortorella wants him to stay.
- MJL


100%. I find it humorous that the answer Torts pitched is to have an Org-wide pow wow with advisors and extended staff. What could go wrong?!?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 24 @ 10:35 AM ET
We have witnessed what he adds. Nothing - full stop. The PP is as disaster and has been for a long time. At some point they need to bring in a Coach to strip it down and build it back up. But the Flyers are retaining Rocky and bringing in the band of advisors across the organization b/c the HC and PP Coach can't figure it out.
- Flyfly



I’m starting to think get excited about how bad they could be next year. Get in there Rock!!
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 24 @ 10:38 AM ET
100%. I find it humorous that the answer Torts pitched is to have an Org-wide pow wow with advisors and extended staff. What could go wrong?!?
- Flyfly


He spent a whole half hour with Patrick sharp the other day! Trust him!
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Apr 24 @ 10:45 AM ET
Every post I make is a good post. That's why the troll brigade gets their panties in a bunch and they struggle so hard to try and get at me. I just laugh.

The Flyers biggest issue is lack of elite talent. Their coaching does not help, especially on the PP. They have the offensive talent to have a better PP.

- MJL

you da man mayor cliff. 16 hours a day. do yo not see that as a problem?
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Apr 24 @ 3:22 PM ET
Correct, it was from that point on from May of 23 that the Gauthier camp broke off contact with the Flyers. Not in March of 23 as the other poster ignorantly claims.
- MJL



Lmao. Yes I’m ignorant. Read that again moron.
Let’s go with what this says as gospel.
1) db had talk in May and was PREPARED TO OFFER CONTRACT.

Moron that doesn’t mean contract was negotiated and sent.

2) as gospel db was told in May meeting cg would not sign contract.

3) so dumb (frank) explain why a contract (that wasn’t negotiated) even be sent? And why would flyers send reps to discuss why player (who told them he wouldn’t sign) asking why he wouldn’t sign this mythical contract.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 24 @ 3:36 PM ET
Lmao. Yes I’m ignorant. Read that again moron.
Let’s go with what this says as gospel.
1) db had talk in May and was PREPARED TO OFFER CONTRACT.

Moron that doesn’t mean contract was negotiated and sent.

2) as gospel db was told in May meeting cg would not sign contract.

3) so dumb (frank) explain why a contract (that wasn’t negotiated) even be sent? And why would flyers send reps to discuss why player (who told them he wouldn’t sign) asking why he wouldn’t sign this mythical contract.

- Stayin alive


I'll humor you just this once you fool. Show me where I ever said a contract was negotiated?


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