Is Rocky Thompson their PP coach too?
- mikeyo27

😂😂😂

You win.

It is a miss but how can you blame Hextall? He was widely considered a top pick in the draft and a future #1 NHL center. It's hindsight to say he should've taken Makar. Sakic was pissed when the guy he wanted got taken and he had to settle for Makar. Patrick and his physical and mental issues were simply bad luck. Its not as if he made a horrendous choice at the time or used bad judgement.
- MJL

This is not entirely true. Patrick had a an injury filled draft season and his stock was dropping come draft day. Several scouts told Hextall not to draft Patrick, but Hextall overrode his scouts and went with what he hoped was a future 1C. I agree its not on Hextall, but he does bear some of the blame.

I agree with you though. The executives would've never allowed that even if Hextall wanted to do that. Which I don't know if he did or not. They won't allow it now.
- MJL

I would think that before Hextall took the job he would have agreed upon the plan moving forward with executives. So I must assume Hextall and the executives were aligned when he took the job on the path forward. Hextall is far from a victim here.

They NEED to trade TK. I’d love to hear trade proposals. I bet I like almost all of them. Oddly though, not the one previously proposed here today 🤣
- coffee junkie

Konecny, Flyers #12, and a 2nd for Zegras and Anaheim #3.

Konecny, Flyers #12, and a 2nd for Zegras and Anaheim #3.
- MBFlyerfan

It may take both firsts and TK to get zegras and 3. Zegras would be Frosted by torts - no way a kid with flair would get a fair shot with torts

This is not entirely true. Patrick had a an injury filled draft season and his stock was dropping come draft day. Several scouts told Hextall not to draft Patrick, but Hextall overrode his scouts and went with what he hoped was a future 1C. I agree its not on Hextall, but he does bear some of the blame.
- jd250

99.9% of Flyers fans were over the (frank)ing moon when Patrick dropped to #2 on draft day. The fanbase would have torn Hexy limb from limb if he had taken anybody other than Patrick with that pick. You all thought NP was G's heir apparent.

Funny how you're all trying to pretend otherwise now, eating up some BS that Clarkie put out there.

99.9% of Flyers fans were over the (frank)ing moon when Patrick dropped to #2 on draft day. The fanbase would have torn Hexy limb from limb if he had taken anybody other than Patrick with that pick. You all thought NP was G's heir apparent.

Funny how you're all trying to pretend otherwise now, eating up some BS that Clarkie put out there.
- Tomahawk

Quit defending Daddy Hextall.


(of course everything you say is true)

99.9% of Flyers fans were over the (frank)ing moon when Patrick dropped to #2 on draft day. The fanbase would have torn Hexy limb from limb if he had taken anybody other than Patrick with that pick. You all thought NP was G's heir apparent.

Funny how you're all trying to pretend otherwise now, eating up some BS that Clarkie put out there.
- Tomahawk

This is 100% true.

This is not entirely true. Patrick had a an injury filled draft season and his stock was dropping come draft day. Several scouts told Hextall not to draft Patrick, but Hextall overrode his scouts and went with what he hoped was a future 1C. I agree its not on Hextall, but he does bear some of the blame.
- jd250

That's false. The injuries he had pre draft were not an issue. He was a consensus top pick and a player projected to be a #1 center right up until draft day. There was no player consensus from the scouts on who to draft. It is also inaccurate to state that Hextall overrode his scouts. The GM takes info from scouts and makes the final call.

Konecny, Flyers #12, and a 2nd for Zegras and Anaheim #3.
- MBFlyerfan

why would a rebuilding team like Anaheim do this?

I would think that before Hextall took the job he would have agreed upon the plan moving forward with executives. So I must assume Hextall and the executives were aligned when he took the job on the path forward. Hextall is far from a victim here.
- jd250

Who said he was a victim. I'm quite sure that Hextall knew what he was getting into and what the approach was going to be when he took the job. The point is that when people say that Hextall should of tore it down to the ground. Just know that upper management would not okay that and allow that.

Konecny, Flyers #12, and a 2nd for Zegras and Anaheim #3.
- MBFlyerfan

I would like that but there is no way I see Verbeek doing that.

why would a rebuilding team like Anaheim do this?
- Peter Richards

Anaheim is looking for a top 6 rh shooting winger, and TK fits there needs.

They would probably lean towards a straight up zegras for tk which flyers need to avoid. Main thing tk trade needs to bring back is a 1st pick hopefully in the top 10.

I would like that but there is no way I see Verbeek doing that.
- MJL

He would consider both 1st round picks and tk for zegras 3rd ov.

Anaheim is looking for a top 6 rh shooting winger, and TK fits there needs.

They would probably lean towards a straight up zegras for tk which flyers need to avoid. Main thing tk trade needs to bring back is a 1st pick hopefully in the top 10.
- Flyerloon

Vrbeek has already fleeced danny once ...

That's false. The injuries he had pre draft were not an issue. He was a consensus top pick and a player projected to be a #1 center right up until draft day. There was no player consensus from the scouts on who to draft. It is also inaccurate to state that Hextall overrode his scouts. The GM takes info from scouts and makes the final call.
- MJL

Set consensus and all that aside...

The Flyers had just taken Provy 7th-overall and he had jumped in right away as a #1 guy. Ghost had just turned in two great seasons to open his career and was poised to drop 65-points in 2017. Sanheim and Hagg were considered ready for full-time jobs. Morin, taken 11th, was still healthy at the time and everybody thought he'd make the jump sooner or later. Myers was ripping up the Q, was considered one of the best d prospects not in the NHL, and he was about to go pro. Friedman had just signed his ELC.

Nobody thought the Flyers needed to add any more D prospects at the time -- everybody thought they were completely set on the blueline.

Meanwhile G was nearing 30 and coming off a down year. Coots' offense was languishing in the bottom-six. Schenn was a perennial disappointment. All signs pointed to the Flyers needing future help down the middle and NP was hyped as having an elite 1C ceiling by some pre-draft.

If Hexy did indeed override anybody in the room he had a million and one reasons to. 99.9% of the fans would have done the same. Bob Clarke would have done the same. There probably wasn't a GM in the league outside of Poile who would have taken another defenseman with that pick.

He would consider both 1st round picks and tk for zegras 3rd ov.
- Flyerloon

Maybe but I doubt it.

Konecny, Flyers #12, and a 2nd for Zegras and Anaheim #3.
- MBFlyerfan

TK and a 2nd for Mason McTavish

I doubt Anaheim would be willing to trade the 3rd overall unless it was an overpay.

That's false. The injuries he had pre draft were not an issue. He was a consensus top pick and a player projected to be a #1 center right up until draft day. There was no player consensus from the scouts on who to draft. It is also inaccurate to state that Hextall overrode his scouts. The GM takes info from scouts and makes the final call.
- MJL

So hexy isnt responsible for drafting the dud patrick and gets a pass, but gets a good job on the drafting of TK. ok got it

Who said he was a victim. I'm quite sure that Hextall knew what he was getting into and what the approach was going to be when he took the job. The point is that when people say that Hextall should of tore it down to the ground. Just know that upper management would not okay that and allow that.
- MJL

disagree, he had full reign to do it, but failed

99.9% of Flyers fans were over the (frank)ing moon when Patrick dropped to #2 on draft day. The fanbase would have torn Hexy limb from limb if he had taken anybody other than Patrick with that pick. You all thought NP was G's heir apparent.

Funny how you're all trying to pretend otherwise now, eating up some BS that Clarkie put out there.
- Tomahawk

not me I wanted them to trad down pick and draft middlestat (if possible)

why is it BS because Clarke said it? I believe it 100%. Ronald was always wanting to be the smartest guy in the room complex.

Who said he was a victim. I'm quite sure that Hextall knew what he was getting into and what the approach was going to be when he took the job. The point is that when people say that Hextall should of tore it down to the ground. Just know that upper management would not okay that and allow that.
- MJL

BS cliff provide proof of this as you always ask other to do.

you just cant accept that he did a piss poor job at the nhl level as a GM. He had no plan

That's false. The injuries he had pre draft were not an issue. He was a consensus top pick and a player projected to be a #1 center right up until draft day. There was no player consensus from the scouts on who to draft. It is also inaccurate to state that Hextall overrode his scouts. The GM takes info from scouts and makes the final call.
- MJL

defend that pos until the end. pure entertainment

Anaheim is looking for a top 6 rh shooting winger, and TK fits there needs.

They would probably lean towards a straight up zegras for tk which flyers need to avoid. Main thing tk trade needs to bring back is a 1st pick hopefully in the top 10.
- Flyerloon

maybe straight up they would do it, but that wasn't the trade proposed. rebuilding, i don't see why they would give up a high 1st round pick at all unless bringing back a stud (and i would look for a d man). TK is good, but isn't a stud, and is older to boot.

why is it BS because Clarke said it? I believe it 100%. Ronald was always wanting to be the smartest guy in the room complex.
- hello it's me 2050

Clarke couldn't even get the names straight when he told the story. He kept saying Makar when all the reports said that there were some voices in the room pushing for Miro, not Makar.