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kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 2 @ 9:43 AM ET
Think he's too laid back. I don't buy the "he's dumb" stuff, but I don't think he's super vocal either. Need to have a strong voice as the C. Dahlin has the respect around the league, but not that voice IMO.
- QuinnFan


I can assure you that he is not too laid back.

Is he supremely verbal like Tuch, who often has diarrhea of the mouth?

No, but Dahlin doesn't (frank) around when he does talk.

Do you think Casey got in shape all by himself?

Not remotely, and that's just one example.
Jet Jaguar BD
Seattle Kraken
Location: BD look 👀 at you pic and you look like a burned out short order cook hiding in mommy basement!!
Joined: 07.17.2021

May 2 @ 9:49 AM ET
Reported on purpose.
- QuinnFan

Been a few weeks since my last ban

I’m due
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

May 2 @ 9:49 AM ET
I can assure you that he is not too laid back.

Is he supremely verbal like Tuch, who often has diarrhea of the mouth?

No, but Dahlin doesn't (frank) around when he does talk.

Do you think Casey got in shape all by himself?

Not remotely, and that's just one example.

- kingcong39


I don't think Dahlin is laid back when training himself, but I do think he likes to be friends with guys. I'm not sure I've ever seen him get angry at another player, the best captains in the league do.

Casey would be a good example, did Dahlin drive that transformation? I just hadn't heard that tbh.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

May 2 @ 9:51 AM ET
Been a few weeks since my last ban

I’m due

- Jet Jaguar BD


I suppose it was inevitable but don't worry, haven't seen Stripes in weeks. Chaos reigns supreme here.

Something, something, something...Satan.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 2 @ 9:54 AM ET
Disagree- an outside presence like Stamkos who has no history with these guys would have an easier time holding them accountable than Dahlin. I just can't see him doing it
- Hank Balling

Marcus Foligno, Travis Konecny or Boone
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 2 @ 9:55 AM ET
Been a few weeks since my last ban

I’m due

- Jet Jaguar BD

you can get one in 5 minutes over at the leafs blog


ripped fuel would get one every month in the flyers blog
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 2 @ 10:16 AM ET
I still don't think there's a captain on this roster currently
- Hank Balling


It's interesting that the reporters following the team don't see him as a slam dunk and always mention Cozens as a future C.

It all has a funny look to it. Their locker cleanup comments didn't sound like Dahlin was the true C last year and everything was going great.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 2 @ 10:21 AM ET
I don't think Dahlin is laid back when training himself, but I do think he likes to be friends with guys. I'm not sure I've ever seen him get angry at another player, the best captains in the league do.

Casey would be a good example, did Dahlin drive that transformation? I just hadn't heard that tbh.

- QuinnFan


They sure did get mad at 'Fire Donnie' then threw him under the bus at locker cleanout.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

May 2 @ 10:21 AM ET
I don't think Dahlin is laid back when training himself, but I do think he likes to be friends with guys. I'm not sure I've ever seen him get angry at another player, the best captains in the league do.

Casey would be a good example, did Dahlin drive that transformation? I just hadn't heard that tbh.

- QuinnFan


This. I can't picture him calling Power out for a bad shift
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

May 2 @ 10:26 AM ET
Marcus Foligno, Travis Konecny or Boone
- homiedclown


Hard pass. Giving Columbus a good haul for a guy who hasn't played 70 games since 2019 is a bad idea. Foligno or Konecny in a heartbeat.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

May 2 @ 10:28 AM ET
I can assure you that he is not too laid back.

Is he supremely verbal like Tuch, who often has diarrhea of the mouth?

No, but Dahlin doesn't (frank) around when he does talk.

Do you think Casey got in shape all by himself?

Not remotely, and that's just one example.

- kingcong39


What identity would he create with the team. He's been the captain since Okposo was traded, what did you see that shows he is the captain that helps the team become winners?

He will be, since this organization is run by legitimate morons, but he, like the rest of the people employed in Sabreland, lack leadership traits.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 2 @ 10:35 AM ET
1 middle 6 guy
1 mid pair d man
1 bottom 6 guy


is that enough for this offseason?

let it ride with 6k and levi?

girgens comes back?

is bringing back lazar for the 4th line a viable option?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 2 @ 10:37 AM ET
I can assure you that he is not too laid back.

Is he supremely verbal like Tuch, who often has diarrhea of the mouth?

No, but Dahlin doesn't (frank) around when he does talk.

Do you think Casey got in shape all by himself?

Not remotely, and that's just one example.

- kingcong39

given the team failure this season, perhaps the voice needs to come from outside the 2023-24 lockerroom

is ruff enough or is more needed?
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 2 @ 10:39 AM ET
1 middle 6 guy
1 mid pair d man
1 bottom 6 guy


is that enough for this offseason?

let it ride with 6k and levi?

girgens comes back?

is bringing back lazar for the 4th line a viable option?

- homiedclown


Enough for what? If they do nothing, fans won't be happy, but the expectations are still playoffs. 3 significant changes? I think fans would generally be content.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 2 @ 10:39 AM ET
I don't think Dahlin is laid back when training himself, but I do think he likes to be friends with guys. I'm not sure I've ever seen him get angry at another player, the best captains in the league do.

Casey would be a good example, did Dahlin drive that transformation? I just hadn't heard that tbh.

- QuinnFan


He certainly did.

He dragged Casey's lazy ass off the couch almost daily, altered his diet and set other good habits.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 2 @ 10:44 AM ET
This is the perfect example of using analytics as a tool to make a more informed decision.

I hope the days of looking at a RAPM chart and saying yep or nope are gone.

- TheSabresTaco


I agree in general, however in specific instances it isn't the be all / end all, right?
It is another informational tool that helps to fill in the painting.

That said, real production versus expected production will always win out...or should.

Stammer's real production was 40/41/82 playing on their top 2 lines as he was moved around frequently, mostly on L2 with Cerelli and Hagel after Duclair was obtained in March.

I'll take him any day if the week no matter what the expected stats say.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 2 @ 10:45 AM ET
Enough for what? If they do nothing, fans won't be happy, but the expectations are still playoffs. 3 significant changes? I think fans would generally be content.
- Lunaion

I do not think it's about appeasing the fans or limping into the 7th or 8th seed at this point

I think it's about icing a team that can compete with the panthers, rangers, canes, bruins etc for 82 games and icing a team that is capable of competing for the cup

the bar needs to be much higher than 4th or 5th place in the division next April
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 2 @ 10:46 AM ET
I suppose it was inevitable but don't worry, haven't seen Stripes in weeks. Chaos reigns supreme here.

Something, something, something...Satan.

- QuinnFan


Stipes is making the rounds at leading universities across the country.

Coincidence? I think not.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 2 @ 10:47 AM ET


Stammer's real production was 40/41/82 playing on their top 2 lines as he was moved around frequently, mostly on L2 with Cerelli and Hagel after Duclair was obtained in March.

I'll take him any day if the week no matter what the expected stats say.

- IonSabres



look at where hagel is now vs 2 years ago

the perfect second liner


F You Botts
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 2 @ 10:49 AM ET
Stipes is making the rounds at leading universities across the country.

Coincidence? I think not.

- IonSabres

no more jacksonville iceman in the playoffs

lost 4-0 to florida in game 7

I guess houser was called up to rochester to be the 3rd goalie
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 2 @ 10:51 AM ET
What identity would he create with the team. He's been the captain since Okposo was traded, what did you see that shows he is the captain that helps the team become winners?

He will be, since this organization is run by legitimate morons, but he, like the rest of the people employed in Sabreland, lack leadership traits.

- washedup20


Dahlin is a prime example of a guy who prides himself an becoming the best he can be including practicing hard and encouraging others to up their intensity.
IMO, he doesn't seem to be a true leader as there is more to it than leading by example. I think he is a better Alternate than the Captain.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 2 @ 10:52 AM ET
I can assure you that he is not too laid back.

Is he supremely verbal like Tuch, who often has diarrhea of the mouth?

No, but Dahlin doesn't (frank) around when he does talk.

Do you think Casey got in shape all by himself?

Not remotely, and that's just one example.

- kingcong39


I never heard this before. Doesn't mean it isn't correct, but where did you see it reported?
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

May 2 @ 10:52 AM ET
He certainly did.

He dragged Casey's lazy ass off the couch almost daily, altered his diet and set other good habits.

- kingcong39


Credit where credit is due then, I know they were the best of friends so it makes sense. Think he can do that to the team as a whole though?
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

May 2 @ 10:53 AM ET
Stipes is making the rounds at leading universities across the country.

Coincidence? I think not.

- IonSabres




This made me giggle at work.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 2 @ 10:53 AM ET
I do not think it's about appeasing the fans or limping into the 7th or 8th seed at this point

I think it's about icing a team that can compete with the panthers, rangers, canes, bruins etc for 82 games and icing a team that is capable of competing for the cup

the bar needs to be much higher than 4th or 5th place in the division next April

- homiedclown


I think the bar for most of them is making the playoffs and saving their jobs.
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