And that doesn't seem to be a problem for the Panthers. Worked out for them better than most others.

Cup final appearance as a wild card team followed by winning the division and looking like another deep playoff run.

If that's the alternative to losing in the 1st round 9 out of 10 times and never going past the 2nd round, you take it every single time.
- Rare_Jewel

Bob might drag you to the cup. To me the issue is the amount of money spent on Marner/Tavares in both money and draft capital in order to stay compliant. Add in the picks thrown away at the deadlines an you probably have a really competitive bottom part or the roster by simply drafting for years.

That’s called being drunk.
- Dozzer

Or Woll steals a game and it's 2-2.
- Rare_Jewel

He made 14 saves Saturday night. Three goals on 14 shots. I don’t know how anyone can say that he hasn’t sucked. It seems like he’s either out of position or day dreaming.

If you're looking at the whiteboard in Tre's office, I would hope you see this verbatim....

REPLACE THE WHOLE (frank)ING COACHING STAFF. ASAFP!

???, Matthews, ???
???, Tavares (fk Dubas), ???
Knies, ????, Jarnkrok
Holmberg, Kampf, Reaves

Rielly, ???
McCabe, ???
Beniot, ???

???
Woll

Cap Space Potential = $45M.

#1G = Merzlinkins, Sorokin, Korpisalo, Markstrom = $6M

#1RHD = Pulock = $7M
#2RHD = Matt Roy (LA) = $5M
#3RHD = Zadorov $4M

D and G fixed = $22M

#3C = PLD = $4.25 (50% retained and good replacement for JT)

#1 LW = Konecny ( $5.5M)
#1 RW = Domi ($3.5M)
#2 RW= Mangiapane ($6.5M)
#2 LW = Niederrieter ($5M)

Forwards fixed = $24.75

TOTAL FIXES = $46.75M

TOTAL CAP = $89.75M ($43M with existing players)

Work to do but you end up with a team that doesn't poop itself in the playoffs...

Konecny, Matthews, Domi
Nieder, Tavares, Mangiapane
Knies, PLD, Jarnkrok
Holmberg, Kampf, Reaves

Rielly, Pulock
McCabe, M. Roy
Beniot, Zadorov

Elvis
Woll

As many picks/prospects back as possible to trade the pussies and their Cap hits out.

(Since we don't have playoffs to look forward to, new players will have to do)

- underhill14

Yep he overpaid Willie to make him easier to move.
Having PLD on your list as 3rd line center for 8.5 million per hmmm NO
Merz or Korpisalo as our #1 at 6 million LOL

Bob might drag you to the cup. To me the issue is the amount of money spent on Marner/Tavares in both money and draft capital in order to stay compliant. Add in the picks thrown away at the deadlines an you probably have a really competitive bottom part or the roster by simply drafting for years.
- golfingsince

The Leafs had a plan. It was a good plan. They kicked off the plan with the greatest rookie class in NHL history.

Then, they abandoned the plan and immediately (Tavares) started the EXACT SAME stupidity that led to 50+ years of futility in the first place. Over-paying, tradng draft picks, chasing aging players well past their prime, ignoring the goaltending and defense, not hiring a proven, successful coach...


They turned a good plan, and a very fortunate draft bounty, into 1 series win. It is the worst mismanagement I think we have ever seen in pro sports.

I dunno Match, I am not a Matthews apologist by any means, but I remember a friend getting food poisoning and being ill for like a month.
- Aetherial

Apparently it was the team doctors who pulled him from the game.

The Leafs had a plan. It was a good plan. They kicked off the plan with the greatest rookie class in NHL history.

Then, they abandoned the plan and immediately (Tavares) started the EXACT SAME stupidity that led to 50+ years of futility in the first place. Over-paying, tradng draft picks, chasing aging players well past their prime, ignoring the goaltending and defense, not hiring a proven, successful coach...


They turned a good plan, and a very fortunate draft bounty, into 1 series win. It is the worst mismanagement I think we have ever seen in pro sports.
- Aetherial

Exactly right, and well put.

Apparently it was the team doctors who pulled him from the game.
- shack67

It ain't Rod.

Mike Sullivan.
- BINGO!

Nope - if he wins another cup it’s Cassidy … Foley is going to give him the Rio… 🤘🏻🤘🏻💪🏻🤣🤣🤣🤣

- Dozzer

The Leafs had a plan. It was a good plan. They kicked off the plan with the greatest rookie class in NHL history.

Then, they abandoned the plan and immediately (Tavares) started the EXACT SAME stupidity that led to 50+ years of futility in the first place. Over-paying, tradng draft picks, chasing aging players well past their prime, ignoring the goaltending and defense, not hiring a proven, successful coach...


They turned a good plan, and a very fortunate draft bounty, into 1 series win. It is the worst mismanagement I think we have ever seen in pro sports.
- Aetherial

I said it the day Tavares was signed. Obviously the stagnant cap situation really hurt the Leafs, but it affected all teams.

The big problem is that if falsely accelerated the rebuild, resulting in chasing players and paying Matthews and Marner more than they had to on their 2nd deal.

Yep he overpaid Willie to make him easier to move.
Having PLD on your list as 3rd line center for 8.5 million per hmmm NO
Merz or Korpisalo as our #1 at 6 million LOL
- jribout

Gibson -30% retained & LaCombe & Oil 1st for

Willy -

You get Gibby @ 4 mil - save 7 and get young good LHD & another 1st -

The Leafs had a plan. It was a good plan. They kicked off the plan with the greatest rookie class in NHL history.

Then, they abandoned the plan and immediately (Tavares) started the EXACT SAME stupidity that led to 50+ years of futility in the first place. Over-paying, tradng draft picks, chasing aging players well past their prime, ignoring the goaltending and defense, not hiring a proven, successful coach...


They turned a good plan, and a very fortunate draft bounty, into 1 series win. It is the worst mismanagement I think we have ever seen in pro sports.
- Aetherial

I don't know how many times I said that over the last six years and gotten absolutely flamed for it. People wanted me banned for being too "negative". Funny how the worm has turned with Leafs Nation.

I don't know how many times I said that over the last six years and gotten absolutely flamed for it. People wanted me banned for being too "negative". Funny how the worm has turned with Leafs Nation.
- fifty__missions

Not what you we saying. It was coming a close 2nd to AA for most number of repetive posts per day

(frank) all of ya. Happy 91st, Willie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Uz6noS8aOA

I don't know how many times I said that over the last six years and gotten absolutely flamed for it. People wanted me banned for being too "negative". Funny how the worm has turned with Leafs Nation.
- fifty__missions

They’re not out yet!!!!

I don't know how many times I said that over the last six years and gotten absolutely flamed for it. People wanted me banned for being too "negative". Funny how the worm has turned with Leafs Nation.
- fifty__missions

Without Covid and the resulting flat cap we might not be having this conversation. In hindsight sight you were right.

They’re not out yet!!!!
- Dozzer

😂

Speaking of out yet, any word when you're going home?

They’re not out yet!!!!
- Dozzer

In practise today they were acting like Domi is our number one centre for tomorrow’s game. I think I can hear the fat lady tuning up.

In practise today they were acting like Domi is our number one centre for tomorrow’s game. I think I can hear the fat lady tuning up.
- shack67

Well… shouldn’t look much different *shrugs*

I don't agree.

The PP has personnel problems. It's not all coaching. They have core players unwilling/unable to fight for that middle ice. This won't just go away with a new coach. They need to change the core.
- fifty__missions

I don’t know. I would love to see what this team would do with just attacking the blue line instead dropping it back to the trailer that wastes 20 seconds every single time.

They also had stupid setups on the pp faceoff. Coaching is a huge part of it and this core needs a shake up. Or start carrying their weight. I’m good with either at this point. Come back and win this damn series or blow it up. It can’t be the same thing again next year.

😂

Speaking of out yet, any word when you're going home?
- fifty__missions

They’ve begun to build my meds back up, they got the seizures they need, and now I had a short portion done of it today but I’m getting one of about 2-3 hours tomorrow where they literally connect my head to a computer and read everything it does.

I didn’t even know this lobe existed (I’m no neurologist lol) but it’s one that lies in between either side called the diencephalon, it’s in between the temporal lobes.

The 5 neurologists studying me told me after tomorrow there’s a very good chance they’ll remove all the electrodes Wednesday, make me stay 24 more hours, and then release me the next day. It obviously depends on what they discover tomorrow.

Either way I learned something new and cool today… and the neurologists feel excited. Not the most normal of things and it seems to explain a lot. Various strengths vs various weaknesses kind of thing. They’re thinking that once they get to study the info for a few months they might be able to rid me of epilepsy and if that happens I will be so massively thankful.

That’s called being drunk.
- Dozzer

What I thought from the start.

What I thought from the start.
- Leafsmart

Replace the word “thought” with “envy” and we’re on the same page lol

He made 14 saves Saturday night. Three goals on 14 shots. I don’t know how anyone can say that he hasn’t sucked. It seems like he’s either out of position or day dreaming.
- shack67

Still don't know how he allowed the soft first goal in game 3. Should have at least smashed his stick on the crossbar a half dozen times