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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

May 8 @ 3:00 PM ET
Bingo
- Fakepartofme



Let's not forget Sammy only gave up 1 goal in 60 minutes in game 7. Sadly the stars on the team needed more time to get a 2nd goal in a hockey game
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

May 8 @ 3:01 PM ET
goaltending got them to game 7. The lack of scoring lost them the series
- systemtool


Also true & seems vaguely familiar to when Freddy was here and others but hey if the goaltending steals them wins to get them to game 7 but can't steal them game 7 it doesn't absolve the goalie of being why they lost to some.

It is what it is, it's easy (and IMO lazy) to put the bulk of the blame on goaltending every year but such is the way of some of Leafs Nation and other fan bases.

Wonder if Winnipeg, Nashville. LA, Vegas etc. fans blame their series loss primarily on their goaltending? Maybe i honestly don't' know but I feel like it's a bit of a Toronto thing to ignore the real problem and point to goaltending is all.



Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

May 8 @ 3:10 PM ET
I don't disagree on lack of scoring but playoffs get really tight.

I know you don't like to hear it but Sammy was weak. His stats show he was weak. The eye test shows he was weak. NOT absolute shiite but he wasn't Swayman out there.

And not for nothing but both of those things can exist simultaneously: Sammy was weak, team should've been able to score more.

Bottom line: Keefe sucks. He can't coach Gods.

- underhill14


It's not that I don't like to hear it, it's that it's not accurate IMO.

A .935 Save % in game 7 isn't weak and almost any team would gladly take that, Swayman rocking a .968 Sv% makes him exactly what he was reported to be before this series started - the better goalie. Why are we surprised by this?

Lack of scoring once again reared it's ugly head and cost them the series because if you need your goalie to have a save % better than .935 then you probably don't have what it takes to go deep.

Boston will be in trouble if Swayman can't sustain this level of play as Ulmark is now stone cold and coming off a loss IMO.

I hope it happens and they get stomped by Florida in 6.


Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

May 8 @ 3:23 PM ET
James Mirtle on the Leaf Report

“Marner hired private security to harass media members”

Mitch is in for a wild ride if he chooses to not waive his NMC.

Full qoute



“Part of that. He pays attention to everything, right? He and his camp pay attention to everything, like, to such a degree. I mean, you know, Marner's camp has been mad at me and blackballed me going back, like, five or six years, and I have no idea why, like that.
No one ever said to me, like, oh, I didn't like this thing you wrote. Like, I think that our coverage of Marner has been largely positive. You know, going way back to when he was drafted and when he first came into, I mean, his rookie season, he was phenomenal, you know, and, like, he's had, he's regular season, he's been a great, great player, and I think that we've written that.
But there's such a sensitivity there. Um, you know, so there's all these feuds going on, and you hear about, you know, he's got, like, private security people that harass media people, and there's just, uh, there's really weird stuff that's going on. It's really strange things that go on with, with Marner, and sometimes I feel bad for him.”

- Santo_44


That accusation that he hires security to harass media is ridiculous. First of all, maybe everybody forgets Marner was carjacked. At that point, he'd be an idiot not to have security around him 24/7. And an easy way to get close to a guy like Marner is to pretend to be media or a fan. Having security is perfectly logical. And if this writer can't deal with that, that's his problem. I'd keep the vultures in the media away from me too. They're mostly a bunch of idiots just looking to spin some bullpoop for a story because reporting on reality just doesn't sell like it use to.

Instead of listening to an idiot like Mirtle, who "likes" "ums" "I means" more than a 14 year old valley girl on TikTok, how about you read something with substance?

Enjoy.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...e-game-7-ot-goal-against/

Throughout any hockey season, different events and stories dominate a news cycle and sometimes coaching and team structure gets pulled into the spotlight.

For example, suddenly something as "boring" as neutral zone defence is dominating the season-ending headlines in Los Angeles, where the 1-3-1 system they utilized is being scrutinized, and in Toronto because of how the overtime-winning goal in Game 7's loss unfolded.

So let’s dive into the coaching world and learn more about defensive systems in the neutral zone and the impact they have had on the NHL in the past week.

In light of the 150th running of the Kentucky Derby, let’s start with a horse racing analogy. While working with Jacques Lemaire (the father of the neutral zone trap) there was a common refrain, “getting through the neutral zone should be a muddy track.” Like a horse running on a rainy day, struggling to gain and maintain speed in the wet soil, the job of the defensive team is to eliminate all of the pace coming from the offensive team through structure and effort.

Think of a neutral zone system as the muddy track, and the jockey as the defensive player on top weighing the horse down.

TYPES OF NEUTRAL ZONE DEFENCE

Defensive play in the neutral zone can be broken into five main categories:

1. Pressure out of zone: When a puck is chipped out of the defensive zone into the neutral zone, how do you pressure out of your zone into the middle of the ice?

2. Backchecking/sorting from the rush: When the puck is leaving the opponent's zone and you are defending the rush, how do you handle the opposing players?

3. Neutral zone forecheck: When the opponent regroups, often by passing the puck D-to-D, what structure do you get into to defend the neutral zone?

4. Controlled forecheck: When the opponent stops behind their own net and you are passively defending them, what structure do you use?

5. Line change forecheck: How do you defend the neutral zone while changing your players on the fly?

For the sake of this article we’ll focus on the defensive play in the news, the neutral zone forecheck.

WHAT SYSTEMS DO TEAMS PLAY?

Teams in the NHL use three basic “formations” in the neutral zone, which are defined by the number of players within each layer of the system. So throughout this article we’ll speak of the 1-2-2, the 1-3-1 and the 1-1-3.



THE 1-2-2

Why is it popular? Natural and easy to play while allowing passive interference.



This is the most “natural” of the neutral zone forechecks because you have F1 as a layer steering traffic, your two other forwards are above the red line, and your defenders are gapped up and protecting your blue line.

If you put five random players on the ice and don’t tell them where to go, chances are this is the structure they will default to. It just feels natural to defend this way and coaches take advantage of instincts so they use this system often.

Many teams will also use the 1-2-2 as an opportunity to interfere with players through the middle of the ice. Because you are skating forward, players can bump, cut off and work to passively interfere with the opposing forecheck.

THE 1-1-3

Why is it popular? Takes away rush chances against by forcing dump-ins



There has never been more skill in the NHL, and as a defender it’s never been more terrifying to have a Ferrari-like Connor McDavid attacking you on the rush. Coaches have responded to this by using the 1-1-3 “trap” to try and take away all the lanes at the defending blue line.

In this system F1 and F2 are there to force the puck to one side of the ice (generally the strong side where the defence is) and to eliminate cross-ice passes through the neutral zone. Especially popular in the Eastern Conference, teams use this strategy to keep numbers on the rush, while not worrying about the hard forechecks that you see in the West.

THE 1-3-1

Why is it popular? Takes away the opponent's rush and forecheck chances



Easily the most maligned system in hockey, when well executed the 1-3-1 can be an absolute nightmare to create chances on the rush against. By shifting your three-man wall to the red line, teams take away the dump-in and eliminate both the opposition's rush and forecheck chances. This allows teams to be more aggressive in transition and forces the opposition to make mistakes in the neutral zone.

SO WHO IS TO BLAME FOR TORONTO'S GAME 7 OT GOAL AGAINST?

After the fateful goal Saturday night there were many hot takes on the internet:

• Why didn’t Mitch Marner cut off David Pastrnak?
• Why isn’t William Nylander skating harder?
• Why isn’t Morgan Rielly defending Pastrnak better?

Who is actually to blame in this situation? Because from a coaching perspective, the answer is really none of the above.

To understand who is to blame, you first need to understand what the players were supposed to be doing in the first place.

The Leafs play a common 1-2-2 neutral zone forecheck and, in general throughout the Round 1 series, they were able to limit Boston’s ability to create chances both from the rush and on the forecheck.



Sometimes fans will refer to the Leafs' neutral zone setup as a 1-3-1, and it can look like that at times. The reason for this is that Toronto plays a style of 1-2-2 with a detail that includes the weak side (non-puck side) defenceman (D2) gapping up or “absorbing” the rush on the weak side of the ice. Like you can see in the clip below, the defence is gapped up and ready to take away time and space if the puck changes sides of the ice.

The difference between a true 1-3-1 and a 1-2-2 “D Absorb” is that the defensive team only steps up or absorbs if a play is made to the weak side of the ice, where in a 1-3-1 the defenceman is always standing up to protect the red.





So what went wrong with Toronto?

While many are blaming what happened at the end of the play, the real issue on the game-winning goal started well before Pastrnak ever touched the puck. All tactical systems rely on multiple players executing their role to aid their teammates towards accomplishing a goal.

While it’s easy to blame Marner (F2) and Nylander (F3) as the players closest to the action, truthfully the biggest issue starts with Tyler Bertuzzi and John Tavares not establishing F1 within the forecheck.

The F1 on a neutral zone forecheck is the most important piece. You are the tip of the spear, the captain of the ship steering the opposition in the direction you want them to go. But in the clip below you can see that after Bertuzzi chases up ice (while also breaking one of Lemaire's cardinal rules to never skate behind the opposing net without the puck) he changes and the Leafs don’t establish a new F1 to control the direction of the play.

This allows Hampus Lindholm to gain the red line and dump the puck to Pastrnak flying down the ice. In an ideal world, Tavares would re-attack the puck and allow Marner to get on the ice and establish the second layer of the forecheck. Bertuzzi and Tavares put Marner and Rielly in tough spots to have one of the top players in the league attacking on the forecheck with a ton of speed!



And this wasn’t the first time it happened in Game 7, either. Toronto got caught several times without an F1, allowing Boston to dump pucks and establish their strong forecheck game.



TLDR: Keefe (wrong system for this team), Bertuzzi and Tavares are main reason the Leafs allowed that game 7 goal but you have to actually be able to understand hockey to know it.

Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

May 8 @ 3:25 PM ET
Let's not forget Sammy only gave up 1 goal in 60 minutes in game 7. Sadly the stars on the team needed more time to get a 2nd goal in a hockey game
- systemtool


But that 1 goal he let in was a horribly bad goal that he should have stopped, especially at that moment where they just got the lead less than 90 seconds earlier.

If Samsonov was usually a .925 SV% goalie who let in one bad goal, you could forgive him.

But he's an .890 SV% goalie who let in many bad goals throughout his time.
Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

May 8 @ 3:29 PM ET
Also no one has really mentioned

Marners SB is given July 1st…he has a whopping salary of 800K next year.

That has to be insanely valuable to quite a few teams.

Especially a Nashville, Utah type franchise convincing their owner to sign Marner 8 years 12M knowing over 9 years it’s more like 10.5M a year.

- Santo_44


Tavares gets his bonus on July 1st, only 700K salary.

Trade Tavares.
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

May 8 @ 3:31 PM ET
Tavares gets his bonus on July 1st, only 700K salary.

Trade Tavares.

- Rare_Jewel

They need to ask them both.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 8 @ 3:31 PM ET
also the perfect bounce on the G7GWG.
really who cares about that whole play with regards to who is to blame.



Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

May 8 @ 3:32 PM ET
goaltending got them to game 7. The lack of scoring lost them the series. Then again remind me how many PP goals and points Woll and Sammy had? oh...zero? My bad then. Yea definitely goaltending was the number one reason we lost.
- systemtool


Woll, not Samsonov, got them to game 7. And then he got hurt, which is why they lost game 7.

Samsonov is a terrible goalie. Woll is a very good goalie who is terribly unhealthy.

Neither one can be relied upon to win a Cup.

Their PP and PK absolutely sucked and that falls on the coaches not adapting how they use their weapons. Didn't help that Matthews and Nylander missed games.
Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

May 8 @ 3:32 PM ET
They need to ask them both.
- fifty__missions


Absolutely not. Just Tavares.
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

May 8 @ 3:34 PM ET
I agree but that opinion is clearly not shared by all so whatever.
- Cush29

That’s because it’s an opinion, not a fact. It would be pretty weird in here if we all had the same opinion.
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

May 8 @ 3:37 PM ET
also the perfect bounce on the G7GWG.
really who cares about that whole play with regards to who is to blame.

- senstroll

Everything went wrong on that one. People say it was a planned play by the Bruins like they knew it was going to bounce just like that.
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

May 8 @ 3:38 PM ET
Absolutely not. Just Tavares.
- Rare_Jewel

You gonna leave town with your son?🙏
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 8 @ 3:43 PM ET
Everything went wrong on that one. People say it was a planned play by the Bruins like they knew it was going to bounce just like that.
- shack67


yeah the Power play is a bigger issue. 1 for 500
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

May 8 @ 3:47 PM ET
yeah the Power play is a bigger issue. 1 for 500
- senstroll

I’m guessing that it would have been better if our top three forwards were healthy. And we really need a shooter on the back end. Reilly kept getting chances but he can just barely elevate the puck.
Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

May 8 @ 4:06 PM ET
I’m guessing that it would have been better if our top three forwards were healthy. And we really need a shooter on the back end. Reilly kept getting chances but he can just barely elevate the puck.
- shack67


Edmundson had a lot of nice chances too and he couldn't do a damn thing.

They absolutely need some more offensive talent on the blueline but not another Klingberg either.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

May 8 @ 4:07 PM ET
goaltending got them to game 7. The lack of scoring lost them the series. Then again remind me how many PP goals and points Woll and Sammy had? oh...zero? My bad then. Yea definitely goaltending was the number one reason we lost.
- systemtool

the lack of scoring on the PP was a missed opportunity
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 8 @ 4:09 PM ET
the lack of scoring on the PP was a missed opportunity
- dmnted

All of this true but I still think Leafs win game 7 with Woll.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 8 @ 4:10 PM ET
All of this true but I still think Leafs win game 7 with Woll.
- Canada Cup


same
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

May 8 @ 4:12 PM ET
They need to ask them both.
- fifty__missions

one will get asked to leave the other will be extended ...

..one home toy boys is going to leave .....

we will not like the answer to this question

unless there is a new coach and they all will be back ......
Azuredoom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.14.2019

May 8 @ 4:21 PM ET
Edmundson had a lot of nice chances too and he couldn't do a damn thing.

They absolutely need some more offensive talent on the blueline but not another Klingberg either.

- Rare_Jewel



It is kinda funny.. Tre went after the same type of D man that we are all saying they need now..Yes it was Klingberg and yes he was terrible but his type of D is what they need just better.

Maybe he actually knows hockey a little
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

May 8 @ 4:23 PM ET
All of this true but I still think Leafs win game 7 with Woll.
- Canada Cup

That’s also what I think. Two zip with the second one in an empty net.
Azuredoom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.14.2019

May 8 @ 4:24 PM ET


unless there is a new coach and they all will be back ......

- dmnted



via GIPHY

Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

May 8 @ 4:25 PM ET
That’s because it’s an opinion, not a fact. It would be pretty weird in here if we all had the same opinion.
- shack67



Uh ok?




Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

May 8 @ 4:25 PM ET
It is kinda funny.. Tre went after the same type of D man that we are all saying they need now..Yes it was Klingberg and yes he was terrible but his type of D is what they need just better.

Maybe he actually knows hockey a little

- Azuredoom



No, Klingberg was terrible. He's the type to give up 2 goals to score 1.
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