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eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 14 @ 12:57 PM ET
Strange

Your fans just said they need:
1) puck movers
2) cap space

This achieves both and gets you a good, young, cheap scorer

- mr.sir

I doubt Islander fans are going to be as optimistic as you are that Robertson can score 30 easily and Liljegren is as much as a hidden gem as you may think he is. Maybe they're both as you've advertised them, but moving out Pulock leaves a relatively sizeable hole on the right side. Mayfield isn't very good and is injury prone. And while Dobson is excellent on the offensive side of the rink, he still has a lot of work to do in his own end.
batteryjackson
New York Islanders
Location: MEDICINE HAT MEDICINE PUSHERS, AB
Joined: 09.30.2014

May 14 @ 1:37 PM ET
I doubt Islander fans are going to be as optimistic as you are that Robertson can score 30 easily and Liljegren is as much as a hidden gem as you may think he is. Maybe they're both as you've advertised them, but moving out Pulock leaves a relatively sizeable hole on the right side. Mayfield isn't very good and is injury prone. And while Dobson is excellent on the offensive side of the rink, he still has a lot of work to do in his own end.
- eichiefs9


I've got hope for isaiah george, but he's still years away. that would be a huge hole, they probably would have to get a solid almost ready to retire vet to always go back and never pinch zzzzzzzzzzz
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 14 @ 2:17 PM ET
Strange

Your fans just said they need:
1) puck movers
2) cap space

This achieves both and gets you a good, young, cheap scorer

- mr.sir

There’s nothing strange how your entire thread blasts lilligren and here you are trying to trade him to us.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

May 14 @ 3:41 PM ET
There’s nothing strange how your entire thread blasts lilligren and here you are trying to trade him to us.
- Cptmjl

I’m sorry you feel that way
Honestly think it helps both teams

Also, Gigsy ❤️ Lil’gren
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 14 @ 6:27 PM ET
I’m sorry you feel that way
Honestly think it helps both teams

Also, Gigsy ❤️ Lil’gren

- mr.sir


If Liljegren has the upside you are claiming, why are would you want to part with him? What's the catch?
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

May 14 @ 6:32 PM ET


If Liljegren has the upside you are claiming, why are would you want to part with him? What's the catch?

- Nfdbulldawg

We need a top pair RHD to pair with Rielly
We have for years

Lilly projects as 2nd/3rd pair RHD
We have lots of those
Robertson scores at an elite level with minimal playing time
The real steal in the deal
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 14 @ 6:35 PM ET
I’m sorry you feel that way
Honestly think it helps both teams

Also, Gigsy ❤️ Lil’gren

- mr.sir

You love them so much yet you can’t wait to trade them. Hey how about Pulock for Matthews. I ❤️ Pageau so much I think you should have him.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

May 14 @ 6:39 PM ET
You love them so much yet you can’t wait to trade them. Hey how about Pulock for Matthews. I ❤️ Pageau so much I think you should have him.
- Cptmjl

Are u going to pay your 2nd pair RHD 6.15m?

Opportunity for us ….

My deal is fair, maybe too fair

Anyways, I’m out
We’ll take Parayko then 🤷
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 14 @ 6:51 PM ET
Are u going to pay your 2nd pair RHD 6.15m?

Opportunity for us ….

My deal is fair, maybe too fair

Anyways, I’m out
We’ll take Parayko then 🤷

- mr.sir

I would just go for Makar.

Anyways, I’m out.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 15 @ 6:51 AM ET
We need a top pair RHD to pair with Rielly
We have for years

Lilly projects as 2nd/3rd pair RHD
We have lots of those
Robertson scores at an elite level with minimal playing time
The real steal in the deal

- mr.sir


Robertson can't see over the crossbar at 5ft 9 inches and is not even list in the starting line. And you are selling Lilly as a projected 2nd/ 3rd pairing. Yet you are asking for arguably our best offensive defenseman and a 3rd pair penalty killing defenseman.

Sign me up....next no thank you. I will counter with a UBS Usher and a beer guy for Marner.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

May 15 @ 9:17 AM ET
Robertson can't see over the crossbar at 5ft 9 inches and is not even list in the starting line. And you are selling Lilly as a projected 2nd/ 3rd pairing. Yet you are asking for arguably our best offensive defenseman and a 3rd pair penalty killing defenseman.

Sign me up....next no thank you. I will counter with a UBS Usher and a beer guy for Marner.

- Nfdbulldawg

Nicky Bobby had 14G while playing 11 mins per game in the bottom 6 over 56 games

Leafs fans agree he can score, great shot

Better yet, u tell me what a fair deal for Pulock looks like?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 15 @ 10:12 AM ET
Nicky Bobby had 14G while playing 11 mins per game in the bottom 6 over 56 games

Leafs fans agree he can score, great shot

Better yet, u tell me what a fair deal for Pulock looks like?

- mr.sir

It's a pointless conversation. He has a full NTC and I assume he wanted that in his contract for a reason. The Islanders, for better or for worse, are almost assuredly not tearing it down and Pulock is a big part of the blueline.

I don't think Lou is going to trade one of his best defensemen for a bottom three d-man with a little upside and a guy who's scored well in limited minutes playing behind a high-powered offense. There's zero guarantee you can extrapolate Robertson's production without considering that with a bigger (hypothetical) role on the Islanders he would be facing much tougher defensive matchups than he's getting being sheltered behind Matthews, Nylander, and Marner.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 15 @ 10:20 AM ET
It's a pointless conversation. He has a full NTC and I assume he wanted that in his contract for a reason. The Islanders, for better or for worse, are almost assuredly not tearing it down and Pulock is a big part of the blueline.

I don't think Lou is going to trade one of his best defensemen for a bottom three d-man with a little upside and a guy who's scored well in limited minutes playing behind a high-powered offense. There's zero guarantee you can extrapolate Robertson's production without considering that with a bigger (hypothetical) role on the Islanders he would be facing much tougher defensive matchups than he's getting being sheltered behind Matthews, Nylander, and Marner.

- eichiefs9

Love when opposing fans show up to sell their spare parts for what is better or worse a valuable player to us. If you ever visit the Leafs thread you would realize that Lilligren is the subject of unanimous vitriol. I also love when the trade comes across like a sales pitch with the talk track focused around polishing up the sh!t sandwhich they are trying to feed us. Like the proposal is going to have some real life effect. Cracks me up.
chazpet
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.22.2010

May 15 @ 10:48 AM ET
It's like most fantasy sports trades. 99 % of the time it's just a guy trying to build up a player they going to dump to waivers.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

May 15 @ 11:06 AM ET
Love when opposing fans show up to sell their spare parts for what is better or worse a valuable player to us. If you ever visit the Leafs thread you would realize that Lilligren is the subject of unanimous vitriol. I also love when the trade comes across like a sales pitch with the talk track focused around polishing up the sh!t sandwhich they are trying to feed us. Like the proposal is going to have some real life effect. Cracks me up.
- Cptmjl


I'm just as guilty. I used to offer Bailey as part of every counter offer.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 15 @ 11:21 AM ET
I'm just as guilty. I used to offer Bailey as part of every counter offer.
- JimmyP



So many Isles fans did. I'm sure I did at some point(s). Everyone thinks their spare parts stink until they want to make a trade and give up nothing. Fans of every team do it.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 15 @ 11:21 AM ET
I'm just as guilty. I used to offer Bailey as part of every counter offer.
- JimmyP


Very understandable Jimmy. Bailey did have chains he could add to a deal.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 15 @ 11:28 AM ET
I'm just as guilty. I used to offer Bailey as part of every counter offer.
- JimmyP

😆

Yeah sure but when someone tells you no (frank)ing way and your reaction is feigned shock at the rebuke like this guy is when it becomes laughable. 😂
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

May 15 @ 11:38 AM ET
Very understandable Jimmy. Bailey did have chains he could add to a deal.

- ses111


Don't forget he had a song too.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 15 @ 12:02 PM ET
Don't forget he had a song too.
- JimmyP

Can't underestimate the value of the recording rights to that song
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 15 @ 12:25 PM ET
Don't forget he had a song too.
- JimmyP


That's right. I forgot. I'll never understand some Islanders fans and the love they have for certain players.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 15 @ 3:58 PM ET
It's like most fantasy sports trades. 99 % of the time it's just a guy trying to build up a player they going to dump to waivers.
- chazpet


Have we been in the same fantasy hockey leagues? I do not recall see you...
batteryjackson
New York Islanders
Location: MEDICINE HAT MEDICINE PUSHERS, AB
Joined: 09.30.2014

May 15 @ 6:24 PM ET
That's right. I forgot. I'll never understand some Islanders fans and the love they have for certain players.

- ses111

it's because for years he never shot the puck, so when he did and it went in it was like (frank) yeah bro
PeteM
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 07.10.2007

May 15 @ 6:35 PM ET
It's a pointless conversation. He has a full NTC and I assume he wanted that in his contract for a reason. The Islanders, for better or for worse, are almost assuredly not tearing it down and Pulock is a big part of the blueline.

I don't think Lou is going to trade one of his best defensemen for a bottom three d-man with a little upside and a guy who's scored well in limited minutes playing behind a high-powered offense. There's zero guarantee you can extrapolate Robertson's production without considering that with a bigger (hypothetical) role on the Islanders he would be facing much tougher defensive matchups than he's getting being sheltered behind Matthews, Nylander, and Marner.

- eichiefs9


Lou tried that with Engvall and we see how that turned out.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 15 @ 9:06 PM ET


Lou tried that with Engvall and we see how that turned out.

- PeteM

Value contract
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